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post #221 of 260
6/21/08 at 10:43pm
I had more thoughts about subdivisions and HOAs. I think that the HOAs of subdivisions that have larger yards (like .25 acres per house) will probably end up acting more like farm cooperatives coordinating which blocks of homes would grow what and who's yards would be dedicated to which animals, etc.

The postage-stamp yard subdivisions would be pretty screwed.

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post #222 of 260
6/22/08 at 1:31pm
What an interesting thread!!
post #223 of 260
6/22/08 at 4:57pm
This may have been linked to already, but I have found this site informative and it has a preparedness section (http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Prepare.html) which is neat. It says to get in shape, and I was using TLE to justify keeping my rolls. I'm not obese to the point of health problems though.
post #224 of 260
6/22/08 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by Synchro246 View Post
This may have been linked to already, but I have found this site informative and it has a preparedness section (http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Prepare.html) which is neat. It says to get in shape, and I was using TLE to justify keeping my rolls. I'm not obese to the point of health problems though.
Ooh, thanks for the link! That looks really interesting!
post #225 of 260
6/22/08 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by Synchro246 View Post
This may have been linked to already, but I have found this site informative and it has a preparedness section (http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Prepare.html) which is neat. It says to get in shape, and I was using TLE to justify keeping my rolls. I'm not obese to the point of health problems though.
Great link! Thanks!!
post #226 of 260
6/22/08 at 11:32pm
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Originally Posted by Synchro246 View Post
This may have been linked to already, but I have found this site informative and it has a preparedness section (http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Prepare.html) which is neat. It says to get in shape, and I was using TLE to justify keeping my rolls. I'm not obese to the point of health problems though.
I like the website and the breaking news section. The forum, though, has some real tinfoilers on it.

V
post #227 of 260
6/22/08 at 11:39pm
What's a tinfoiler? I didn't visit the forum. I find most forums overwhelming upon first visit so I only go to them after I have read up on whatever the focus is.

Did anyone notice that the emergency preparedness section (that I linked to above) seemed to be more general than PO focused? Like--"buy a propane grill". . .um. . .not useful if I don't have a job and propane is very very expensive.

I linked to it before I read the whole thing. Heck, I still haven't read the whole thing--there's a lot on that site.
post #228 of 260
6/23/08 at 12:17am
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Originally Posted by Synchro246 View Post
What's a tinfoiler? I didn't visit the forum. I find most forums overwhelming upon first visit so I only go to them after I have read up on whatever the focus is.

Did anyone notice that the emergency preparedness section (that I linked to above) seemed to be more general than PO focused? Like--"buy a propane grill". . .um. . .not useful if I don't have a job and propane is very very expensive.

I linked to it before I read the whole thing. Heck, I still haven't read the whole thing--there's a lot on that site.
A tinfoiler is a person who wears a tinfoil-lined hat to protect them from mind control rays and whatnot. Someone who is more than a little paranoid.

I thought the preparedness stuff I read was odd, the talk of storing 25 gallons of gas, and propane stoves and stuff. Like you say, how would a propane stove be useful after the oil crash? Not as a long-term solution, anyway.
post #229 of 260
6/23/08 at 8:21am
Having spent quite a bit of time on that site I think I can answer the propane grill question.

Propane can be stockpiled w/o worrying that it will go 'bad' like gas does. Several people on that site have propane heat, propane fridges etc... So if you have a grill and some extra tanks you can cook for a long time.

I don't recall the site saying to keep 25gal of gas on hand. However, after reading the intro, I mostly look at the breaking news section. (Although, basic emergency prep, it's probably not a bad idea to have a tank of gas on hand so you can top off w/o going to a gas station in an emergency.)

I'm still trying to find my way in the forum. However, it's not well moderated and there is some crazee talk there. Not to mention some blatant misogyny.

My main issue with the site is the apocalyptic slant. As I've said many times, it takes more than ten minutes for the world to end and I doubt it would be a straight, linear progression anyway.

V
post #230 of 260
6/23/08 at 9:44am
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My main issue with the site is the apocalyptic slant. As I've said many times, it takes more than ten minutes for the world to end and I doubt it would be a straight, linear progression anyway.
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It's definitely a "take what you can use and leave the rest" source of information.
post #231 of 260
6/23/08 at 12:06pm
I do like that lifeaftertheoilcrash forum, and I also like the forums at peakoil.com for the same kind of stuff. The latter has a "planning for the future" forum that's especially useful -- people homesteading, gardening, preserving food, all with an eye toward long-term sustainability. It's a little less head-for-the-hills than the rest of the site.

But yes, blatant misogyny, scary racism, and bug-eyed rants about Jewish bankers and Bilderbergers. So bring your blinders and maybe a nice glass of wine.
post #232 of 260
6/23/08 at 12:36pm
Little off topic re- TLE but more on topic re-other info sources for preparing for a TLE scenario... there's a book by Robert Wilson called "Everything is Under Control". It's a very silly, easy reading, encyclopedia format guide to conspiracy theories. DH and I love to just browse it, but it's actually a pretty handy resource for quick info when someone mentions X Y or Z... a minute or two with the guide and you'll have a good feel for where that person is coming from and how thier info is being filtered.
post #233 of 260
6/23/08 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by wombatclay View Post
Little off topic re- TLE but more on topic re-other info sources for preparing for a TLE scenario... there's a book by Robert Wilson called "Everything is Under Control". It's a very silly, easy reading, encyclopedia format guide to conspiracy theories. DH and I love to just browse it, but it's actually a pretty handy resource for quick info when someone mentions X Y or Z... a minute or two with the guide and you'll have a good feel for where that person is coming from and how thier info is being filtered.
Oooh, fun! I placed a hold on it from the library. Thanks.
post #234 of 260
6/30/08 at 10:57am
This Story this morning is so sad!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...feed=worldnews
post #235 of 260
6/30/08 at 11:52am
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post #236 of 260
8/27/08 at 1:19pm
Bumped because someone mentioned they were looking for this thread.

Is anyone else starting to get really, really worried? I don't have very much money at ALL, but I want to start stocking up on stuff. Not because I think the end of the world is coming, but because I think that things are going to get much, much worse before it gets better. I've been wanting to have a stockpile for awhile now but money has always stopped me. I'm just going to buckle down and do it now.
post #237 of 260
8/27/08 at 4:02pm
Yeah I think its good to have extra dry foods around this winter. No harm in that

I posted I think in the green living area I'll see if i can find it (i'm nak right now :P) about using old 2 liter bottles for food storage on the cheap .
post #238 of 260
8/28/08 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by PenelopeJune View Post
Bumped because someone mentioned they were looking for this thread.

Is anyone else starting to get really, really worried? I don't have very much money at ALL, but I want to start stocking up on stuff. Not because I think the end of the world is coming, but because I think that things are going to get much, much worse before it gets better. I've been wanting to have a stockpile for awhile now but money has always stopped me. I'm just going to buckle down and do it now.
As a result of this thread, I've started reading Sharon Astyk's blog, along with the news and forums at Life After the Oil Crash. I did some consulting with Sharon, and have participated in 2 of her internet classes: "Food Storage and Preservation" and "Adapting in Place". I now have 6-9 months of food stored, and I'm feeling much more confident about *whatever* life may throw at me. I'm also working on making changes to my *place* that make where I'm at more sustainable, including putting in a large garden and fruit and nut trees, and having low-energy solutions around the house. Sharon had a post a while back about the Theory of Anyway, which I think is genius (it's not her idea, though), and it is how I like to think of what I'm doing.
post #239 of 260
8/28/08 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by MomInFlux View Post
As a result of this thread, I've started reading Sharon Astyk's blog, along with the news and forums at Life After the Oil Crash. I did some consulting with Sharon, and have participated in 2 of her internet classes: "Food Storage and Preservation" and "Adapting in Place". I now have 6-9 months of food stored, and I'm feeling much more confident about *whatever* life may throw at me. I'm also working on making changes to my *place* that make where I'm at more sustainable, including putting in a large garden and fruit and nut trees, and having low-energy solutions around the house. Sharon had a post a while back about the Theory of Anyway, which I think is genius (it's not her idea, though), and it is how I like to think of what I'm doing.
Thanks for your post. I read Sharon's blog but had missed her post on the Theory of Anyway. I googled and read it just now, and I love it. It's how I've always felt (though I haven't always done a great job of living it) and it's a good way to approach life. It sort of makes the thought of peak oil and climate change and all the other things in the approaching storm seem not as scary.
post #240 of 260
9/18/08 at 12:28am
bump

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