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post #101 of 199
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Originally Posted by hollyvangogh View Post
Some have suggested that it's perfectly acceptable to be rude to people who come door to door...but if the tables were turned and someone treated you like crap because you wanted to tell them about breastfeeding, or no circ, or vaccines, or [insert thing you sincerely believe in and care deeply about] you'd probably be offended.
You mean if I actually went and knocked on peoples doors and told them this stuff? Um, yeah, I would EXPECT to get very hostile treatment.
post #102 of 199
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Some have suggested that it's perfectly acceptable to be rude to people who come door to door...but if the tables were turned and someone treated you like crap because you wanted to tell them about breastfeeding, or no circ, or vaccines, or [insert thing you sincerely believe in and care deeply about] you'd probably be offended. Like I said, I can't speak for how the JWs do it, but LDS missionaries give up 1.5-2 years of their life, on their own dime to volunteer full time (and it's not all going door to door, they spend a lot of time just doing service for people). They don't do it to annoy you, or to bash you, or to interrupt you're busy life. They do it to share something that is important to them and has made them happy. I think acting like they don't deserve to be treated with as much respect as anyone else because you happen to be in the middle of something when they come by is a mean attitude. Some posters seem to think missionaries deserve to be treated like dirt and I think that's ridiculous. No one deserves to be treated like dirt for simply asking if you'd like to talk to them about something very dear to their hearts. Like I said, if someone was nasty to you just for trying to talk to them about your beliefs/thoughts/opinions/whatever I imagine you'd be pretty ticked off.
nope. not at all. I find it condescending, incredibly rude, hostile and ignorant to interrupt someone's life and intrude upon their property to "share" how their beliefs are right, and mine are wrong. and I would NEVER do it to anyone, about anything. and if I did, I would expect nothing but digust and intolerance.
post #103 of 199
*envisioning myself going door to door proselytising the joys of co-sleeping*



Nope. Think it is wonderful, wouldn't bug strangers with it. Over and Over and Over.
post #104 of 199
Yeah, I don't think this is a "picking on JWs" thing, when the atheists tried door-to-door conversions it didn't go over well either.
post #105 of 199
Well, I've never tried it, but there is an interesting attempt by a well known pagan to discuss biblical interpretation with JWs at the door. (http://www.paganlibrary.com/fundies/other_people.php) The tone of the article is a bit snarky (though it's a common tone in his writting, not specifically aimed at any one group), but the idea of engaging in an actual dialogue is polite and may result in your being placed on the "do not call" list without your having to flat out say "get off my property or I'm calling the police".

In my experience simply telling the visitor that "our household is happily pagan, we're not interested in joining their community, please don't bother leaving any information, if we ever change our minds we will contact you" has been enough.

Jennica (or anyone really!)- are there different "rules" for neighborhoods that are affiliated with colleges? I remember in college we'd get visitors almost every week, tracts and magazines up against our door or in the mailbox, and invites to all sorts of "social events" that were sort of subtle (or not so subtle) educational opportunities. So does "do not come back" not apply when the person saying it is a college student or other young adult in what is generally seen as an emotional/challenging/transient period? Just curious...
post #106 of 199
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Originally Posted by wombatclay View Post
Jennica (or anyone really!)- are there different "rules" for neighborhoods that are affiliated with colleges? I remember in college we'd get visitors almost every week, tracts and magazines up against our door or in the mailbox, and invites to all sorts of "social events" that were sort of subtle (or not so subtle) educational opportunities. So does "do not come back" not apply when the person saying it is a college student or other young adult in what is generally seen as an emotional/challenging/transient period? Just curious...
Each congregation is supposed to work their territory AT LEAST once a year, but some get it accomplished much faster than that. Perhaps this college territory was a desirable one to work, as I am sure they got into good conversations there more often then when doing regular territory. This could have prompted the individual witnesses to do this more often. But as far as I know, no territory is officially supposed to be worked more often than any other territory.
post #107 of 199
Thanks!

As I mentioned, as an adult/homeowner I've never had anyone "push" past the initial no thanks. But when I was living in college town nothing seemed to work in terms of discouraging solicitations. Since other posters mentioned that certain life events might lead to a more productive visit (in terms of converion and to explain repeat visitis) I wondered if maybe areas that had more young people on their own and under stress might get visited more often... but then again, maybe since the individual residents of buildings changed frequently there wasn't the same sort of "do not call" marking associated with a specific address?
post #108 of 199
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Originally Posted by EviesMom View Post
This is fairly OT, but why isn't there (or is there and I don't know it) a religion or organization that goes door to door looking for ways to tangibly assist people? Say, asking if elderly people need help getting to the doctor or if homeowners need help painting the house? I suspect such a religion would gain lots more converts by actually actively helping and giving to others as opposed to wasting paper handing out masses of literature that, even if people convert, will mostly be thrown away. I mean, even if I were JW or LDS, other than the actual Book of Mormon, people are going to toss the monthly/periodical literature, right?
I've had the Mormons at my door exactly 3 times. Each time, I have lived at a different location, each time it's been 2 nice looking young men in suits (different men each time). Each time, they have offered to help me.

The first I was on my way to a college final exam and my ride was late I thought the ringing doorbell was my ride, but it was the young, Mormon men. I was in a panic and said I didn't have time to talk, going to final exam, ride late and they offered to drive me to my exam! I didn't accept the offer and luckily my ride showed up while they were there so it was easy to excuse myself.

The second time, we'd bought our new house and were renovating and they came by, saw we were too busy to talk but offered to come help us paint, tear down walls, whatever we wanted. We politely declined.

The third time was in the next new house we lived in and my DH was building a deck and they offered to help with building the deck. Again, he politely declined and told them it wasn't a good time to talk as he needed to finish before dark.

The JW's that have come to our door have never offered to help, likely because it's always been 2 older women that were too frail to be able to do manual labour. Don't know if they'd offer if they were younger, stronger, etc.

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Originally Posted by boingo82 View Post
The LDS church has humanitarian missionaries in addition to the proselytizing ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_...f_missionaries
And even the proselytizing ones do service work and help out the families they visit.
Makes sense as this has been my experience.
post #109 of 199
I have to say, I absolutely LOVE LDS missionairies. They always seem to show up when I'm in need of help, and they jump right in to help They've helped me load up a truck to take to storage, they've helped me turn a heavy oak table over after I had just attached the legs etc. I always thank them profusely, fill their waterbottles, and send them on their way with a sandwich
post #110 of 199
We get JW and Mormons. No Baptists. At least 3-4x a year.

I'm a happy liberal Christian and my new strategy is to ply them MY literature! We have tiny little booklet called the Daily Word that a lot of people are familiar with but don't know it comes from my church. I have a supply of old ones now by the front door and I hand them out in exchange for whatever they are plying. They just might start to think there's another way. Wouldn't that be cool?
post #111 of 199
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Originally Posted by moondiapers View Post
I have to say, I absolutely LOVE LDS missionairies. They always seem to show up when I'm in need of help, and they jump right in to help They've helped me load up a truck to take to storage, they've helped me turn a heavy oak table over after I had just attached the legs etc. I always thank them profusely, fill their waterbottles, and send them on their way with a sandwich
I'm glad to hear these good words in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Ellien C View Post
We get JW and Mormons. No Baptists. At least 3-4x a year.

I'm a happy liberal Christian and my new strategy is to ply them MY literature! We have tiny little booklet called the Daily Word that a lot of people are familiar with but don't know it comes from my church. I have a supply of old ones now by the front door and I hand them out in exchange for whatever they are plying. They just might start to think there's another way. Wouldn't that be cool?
I sometimes get that booklet when I go to the church I sometimes go to. It would be interesting to trade literature. We've had people come by twice since I moved here, but we've not been home either time to actually talk to anyone.
post #112 of 199
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Originally Posted by Decluttering Nut View Post
although I appreciate everything you are saying -- I think if you read through this thread you will find that many people have infact been very nice - with "no thank you" etc only to find them back on their door step a week later .. and that is the issue that the OP was trying to get answers for - because polite just wasn't working
That's exactly it.

We got our regular weekend visit today and it took 40 minutes of the guy insisting that we DID want him to come back, but my hubby managed to convince him that we were telling the truth. We really did want to be taken off the list and we would genuinely appreciate it if they didn't visit again. I hope they don't come again next weekend.
post #113 of 199
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Originally Posted by graceomalley View Post
That's exactly it.

We got our regular weekend visit today and it took 40 minutes of the guy insisting that we DID want him to come back, but my hubby managed to convince him that we were telling the truth. We really did want to be taken off the list and we would genuinely appreciate it if they didn't visit again. I hope they don't come again next weekend.
I've got to say if you actually spent 40 minutes talking to him, I can see where he'd think you want him there regardless of what words you say. If you truly didn't want to talk to him, you wouldn't. If you don't want a missionary of any kind wasting your time, don't let him. Say clearly and politely, "We are not interested. Please don't come back and please put us on your do not visit list." and then shut the door!
post #114 of 199
I hope that is the end of it for you -- I would be interested to hear if you get another visit next week
post #115 of 199
Ok I typed out a post here the other day, then my net promptly crashed & I forgot to come back & post it

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Originally Posted by graceomalley View Post
That's exactly it.

We got our regular weekend visit today and it took 40 minutes of the guy insisting that we DID want him to come back, but my hubby managed to convince him that we were telling the truth. We really did want to be taken off the list and we would genuinely appreciate it if they didn't visit again. I hope they don't come again next weekend.
You poor thing.. I have BTDT, at a previous residence we had religious sales people (that's about as nice a thing as I could ever come up with so it stuck ) that came to our door nearly EVERY other weekend for about 6months at least. I never took their tracts and they often caught me looking very haggard in my bathrobe, unshowered, and exhausted after a long night with a sleepless newborn but they still seemed to think I wanted to stand and chat :

I am pagan so I made a pentacle wreath & hung it on our front porch gate (and yes, they came through a latched gate to get to my door, rude much?) and they didn't come back after that. I may have to make another one, we've started getting visits here too *sigh* and they just walk along the picket fence that closes in our porch till they can reach the door. I'm always very polite, and I always say I am not interested...which should be good enough. If I WERE interested, I couldn't miss the fact that the Kingdom Hall is just a few blocks away.
post #116 of 199
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Originally Posted by graceomalley View Post
That's exactly it.

We got our regular weekend visit today and it took 40 minutes of the guy insisting that we DID want him to come back, but my hubby managed to convince him that we were telling the truth. We really did want to be taken off the list and we would genuinely appreciate it if they didn't visit again. I hope they don't come again next weekend.
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well Grace -- how did the weekend go
post #117 of 199
I have not had a visit in 2 weeks now I think, so maybe we are in the clear. I think the real test will be on the next holiday that we are here, since they seem to always come on holiday mornings without fail.
post #118 of 199
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Originally Posted by carriebft View Post
I have not had a visit in 2 weeks now I think, so maybe we are in the clear. I think the real test will be on the next holiday that we are here, since they seem to always come on holiday mornings without fail.
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Do you mean like long weekends? or like Easter ??
I cant say I have ever noticed that before
post #119 of 199
They have come to my door on Thanksgiving and New Year's day; we weren't here for Christmas or Easter...i am thinking with this trend, though, they might be here July 4.
post #120 of 199
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Originally Posted by carriebft View Post
They have come to my door on Thanksgiving and New Year's day; we weren't here for Christmas or Easter...i am thinking with this trend, though, they might be here July 4.
Wow. When I was a JW (admittedly 12 years ago), we were expressly told to avoid going door-to-door on "family holidays." I don't think Memorial Day would have been given a pass, but there's no way Thanksgiving would have been an option...or Christmas, or Easter or probably even 4th of July.
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