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post #121 of 199
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Originally Posted by Valkyrie9 View Post
Wow. When I was a JW (admittedly 12 years ago), we were expressly told to avoid going door-to-door on "family holidays." I don't think Memorial Day would have been given a pass, but there's no way Thanksgiving would have been an option...or Christmas, or Easter or probably even 4th of July.
I would bring that up with them next time they come (if they do) but I fear demonstrating such knowledge might make them encouraged to come back again. I was very shocked about the Thanksgiving one; and it was the first holiday we had been around in a long time....we usually never celebrate the major ones at home since our fam is all over the place. They are just lucky I opened the door and not my father

But still no visits here that I know of, so we still seem to be in the clear.
post #122 of 199
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Originally Posted by Decluttering Nut View Post
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well Grace -- how did the weekend go
No visit last weekend! Yay! I don't think they'll come this weekend either and if they do I'll insist that they take my literature before I take theirs.

Thanks for thinking of me
post #123 of 199
i just read this whole thread and it practically killed me with laughter...
probably because I was JW for many years and I was awful at keeping track of what houses I visited and what houses wanted what because I really was not a good JW... so I am pretty sure that the people that asked me to never come back got visits again because I never turned anything in and was awful at writing it all down. I just was there to do my "time" and get on with my life...

I must apologize to all of you for the JWs that are like me (trust me, there are alot of them) that really arent good at keeping track of that stuff so nobody gets word that you dont want another visit ever again... lol.
post #124 of 199
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They came again today :

I didn't have anything photocopied so I'm ringing the Kingdom Hall to demand that I be taken off the list. I just want the harassment to stop.
post #125 of 199
I have always been very honest with them and told them truthfully I was raised in one religion, did my soulsearching and research and converted to another. I say that I admire their religion, but I have found peace in my own. The mezzuzzah on my door way is a clear sign of that. I am happy to educate them on its meaning.

i honestly have never had problems with JWs; they have always been my best neighbors.
post #126 of 199
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Originally Posted by graceomalley View Post
They came again today :

I didn't have anything photocopied so I'm ringing the Kingdom Hall to demand that I be taken off the list. I just want the harassment to stop.
Wow! Yes, I think it's time for a call to the missionaries' "boss".

What did you tell them this time?
post #127 of 199
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Originally Posted by Ann-Marita View Post
Wow! Yes, I think it's time for a call to the missionaries' "boss".

What did you tell them this time?
At the door I told them that we all had a really contagious virus. They ran away fast.

On the phone I told them that I want to be put on their 'do not call' list because we've been harassed for way too long and they're not getting the message even though we've asked them not to come back. I spoke to a little old lady - I wasn't polite but I wasn't rude. I was just blunt and firm.

I'm also getting a sign to put on my door.
post #128 of 199
Is it the same person coming back? Or new people? The new people thing wouldnt make sense unless they have double territories checked out or something. How it works worldwide (at least in places where we arent banned) is one person checks out a territory card and goes through the territory. If people are not home, they come back to the "not at home" houses. There is a little map and it shows where to go so places arent "double done" unless its a mistake (I've done a wrong street on accident before, when people were saying "you guys were just here yesterday" I figured something was wrong and I was on the wrong street. Oops. I said "I'm sorry" and went and re-read the card.)

Anyways, if its the same person I'm guessing you are a "return visit" which means she (he?) thought you showed interest or were otherwise friendly nice/liked to talk about the bible, etc. If you continue taking literature, they will think you still want it. I know some people who never want to read the bible, change religions, etc but they like reading the magazines and have asked me to bring those back (the Awake magazine has articles about health, animals, islands, misc stuff.) Or some elderly people without many visitors, sometimes they just like company...or have you read them a scripture and then help with their mail or something. If its the same person I think you just need to be honest with them and say "I really truly do not want to come back."

When the next person checks out the territory card (every few months they are worked in areas where there are a lot of us, like here in Southern Cali but in rural areas more like 1 x a year) a new person may come. We come back because circumstances change, people move, new ones move in, etc but to me what you are describing is a "return visit" (repeated visits from the same person.)

Ultimately we do it because we believe in following Jesus footsteps and Jesus preached. We believe that the Bible tells us to do so (Matthew 24:14, Matthew 28: 19, 20, Isaiah 61:1) I know its not always comfortable. I get pest control people here a few times a week and I honestly sometimes think "AGAIN?!" I said "no thank you" 50 times...but last week I found a bunch of carpenter ants..so when he came this last time, we chatted and I asked for more info. HAHA Not really the same thing but having been on both sides of the door, that's my closest relatable story. LOL!!!

When you called the hall did you give them your address? You might need to so they can know what congregation even covers your territory. Our halls are pretty small so we usually "share" the hall with 3+ congregations. In my area we have 3 english and 3 spanish speaking. Your territory will only be "covered" by one of those though, it's all divided up.
post #129 of 199
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Thanks for the explanation

It was different people every week. When I rang, I gave them my address and told them not to come again, ever. Hopefully this time they'll respect our request.
post #130 of 199
We've thought of putting up a "No Soliciting of Any Kind" on our door as well. The JW's come around a few times a month, and I'm getting tired of the having the same conversation.
post #131 of 199
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We've thought of putting up a "No Soliciting of Any Kind" on our door as well. The JW's come around a few times a month, and I'm getting tired of the having the same conversation.
When I was a JW, we were told that no soliciting signs didn't really apply to us because soliciting meant you were making an exchange for money. (That's not what my Webster's says, but that was the interpretation we were given at the meetings.) So a sign on the door didn't really mean anything to us. We'd knock anyway. Based on my experience, there is literally NOTHING you can do to become a "do not call" other than directly ask whomever was at your door to put you on the do not call list, and often that needed to be followed up by a call to the congregation to confirm it.

For what it's worth, despite my having told four consecutive people nicely that I was a former JW and had no intention of coming back, and to put me on the list, and having called the Kingdom Hall twice, it was over two years at my current address before people quit coming. *knock wood*
post #132 of 199
I'm one of those people that don't mind chatting with the JW at the door. Which is why they keep coming back (much to my husband's annoyance).

BUT, I did notice this sign on my neighbour's door. The message was typed out in an attractive, bold font on white paper. The sign has been on their front door for several years and from what I see (they are across from us), they are not bothered with JW or anyone else.

The message is:

Please no solicitors. Do not try to sell us anything. And if you want to convert us to your religion, sorry, do not bother. We are quite happy the way things are. Thank you.
post #133 of 199
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Originally Posted by Valkyrie9 View Post
When I was a JW, we were told that no soliciting signs didn't really apply to us because soliciting meant you were making an exchange for money. (That's not what my Webster's says, but that was the interpretation we were given at the meetings.) So a sign on the door didn't really mean anything to us. We'd knock anyway. Based on my experience, there is literally NOTHING you can do to become a "do not call" other than directly ask whomever was at your door to put you on the do not call list, and often that needed to be followed up by a call to the congregation to confirm it.

For what it's worth, despite my having told four consecutive people nicely that I was a former JW and had no intention of coming back, and to put me on the list, and having called the Kingdom Hall twice, it was over two years at my current address before people quit coming. *knock wood*
I have noticed that telling them that they kicked me out a while back makes them go "uhm.. ok" and run away in a panic.
post #134 of 199
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Originally Posted by Tuesday View Post
I'm one of those people that don't mind chatting with the JW at the door. Which is why they keep coming back (much to my husband's annoyance).

BUT, I did notice this sign on my neighbour's door. The message was typed out in an attractive, bold font on white paper. The sign has been on their front door for several years and from what I see (they are across from us), they are not bothered with JW or anyone else.

The message is:

Please no solicitors. Do not try to sell us anything. And if you want to convert us to your religion, sorry, do not bother. We are quite happy the way things are. Thank you.
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I think I may try this as well

Grace I will be interested to know after all your efforts if they are going to stop coming by
post #135 of 199
We are muslim, which some JW's know a little about and others don't, so when they come to our house, we tell them about our beliefs and that we love Jesus too, so that usually starts a conversation where we turn it around on them. Most sorta turn away after that and leave us alone.
I think they must focus on "easy prey" like athiests/agnostics instead of trying to convert devout believers.
post #136 of 199
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Originally Posted by ShwarmaQueen View Post
We are muslim, which some JW's know a little about and others don't, so when they come to our house, we tell them about our beliefs and that we love Jesus too, so that usually starts a conversation where we turn it around on them. Most sorta turn away after that and leave us alone.
I think they must focus on "easy prey" like athiests/agnostics instead of trying to convert devout believers.
Why on earth would atheists/agnostics be considered "easy prey"?
post #137 of 199
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Originally Posted by pumpkin View Post
Why on earth would atheists/agnostics be considered "easy prey"?
ditto...
post #138 of 199
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Originally Posted by vickjul View Post

Then, there was the former co-worker who (after about six months of monthly Saturday morning visits and polite requests to be removed from their call list) answered the door in the nude. He lived in that same apartment for 3 1/2 more years without another visit ... though I'm not sure the poor women who were calling on him that morning would have dubbed his approach "polite."
vickjul, oh but it sounds like you worked with my father, a long time ago. Because that's exactly what he ended up doing in exactly the same situation ... I wouldn't recommend it, but he says it worked!

I have "No Soliciting" sign. It's ugly, but it helps tremendously.
post #139 of 199
Well If I were trying to convert someone (which I would NEVER) I would think it would be easier to convert someone who doesn't believe in God or isn't sure rather than convert someone who is devout in their religion already. Make sense? I guess I could see it from the other way also. I don't really know, I've never thought of converting anyone.
I wonder what the success rate for these door-to-door conversions is?
post #140 of 199
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Originally Posted by ShwarmaQueen View Post
Well If I were trying to convert someone (which I would NEVER) I would think it would be easier to convert someone who doesn't believe in God or isn't sure rather than convert someone who is devout in their religion already. Make sense? I guess I could see it from the other way also. I don't really know, I've never thought of converting anyone.
I wonder what the success rate for these door-to-door conversions is?
this assumes that atheists arent sure in their beliefs, which is really not a good assumption or a true one.
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