Charting to avoid JUNE 2008 - Page 2

[Contrariety]

Man... I am getting *laaaaaaaaaaazy* with charting. I better be more careful!

My cycles are just so textbook that I can't be bothered to wake up enough to stick a thermometer in my mouth these days... not good. Not good at all.

[DanelleB]

I keep my cell phone under my pillow, so whenever I wake up, I check the time and if I've slept for at least 3 hours, that's when I temp. My sleep patterns aren't consistant enough to have a set time to take my temp, so this works best for me.

[Juliacat]

Originally Posted by Jenne

She said, "What about a diaphram?" I said, "It isn't as effective and requires spermicide to be close to effective."

I've had a couple of people try to talk me into using a diaphragm and I can't seem to get it through their heads that this would be less effective on top of being messy and annoying.

[Melanie_7773]

Originally Posted by DanelleB

I keep my cell phone under my pillow, so whenever I wake up, I check the time and if I've slept for at least 3 hours, that's when I temp.

A little OT, but if I were you I would consider relocating that cell phone. I work for a cell phone manufacturer so am perhaps a little more aware of RF emissions than most. I would be very concerned about having a cell phone that close to my head all night every night.

Just something to think about.

[DanelleB]

Would it make a difference that it's actually under two pillows?

[akaisha]

mine is under the pillow that goes beside my head, is that too close too? why didn't i think of that before.

i'll put it on my night stand now i guess.

[BananaBreadGirl]

rosie 29, I have tried mymonthlycycles.com. One advantage I found is that you can predict future cycles, without being a paying/VIP member.

[DanelleB]

Originally Posted by akaisha

i'll put it on my night stand now i guess.

That's why I keep it under my pillow--we don't have nightstands so I can't see the alarm clock on hubby's side of the bed. I guess it's time to get some, huh?

[Miasmamma]

I'm jumping in! I just got my IUD out last Thursday, and AF started Sat. I started charting my temp on Fri, so on my chart I'm on day 7, but should I really be on day 6 since AF didn't start till Sat? My temp was high on Fri, but I think that was coming off the hormones, b/c on Sat morn it was almost a full degree lower and it's stayed low during the last 6 days.

[Mama2Dane]

Originally Posted by Miasmamma

I'm jumping in! I just got my IUD out last Thursday, and AF started Sat. I started charting my temp on Fri, so on my chart I'm on day 7, but should I really be on day 6 since AF didn't start till Sat? My temp was high on Fri, but I think that was coming off the hormones, b/c on Sat morn it was almost a full degree lower and it's stayed low during the last 6 days.

You're six days into it. TCOYF (Taking Charge Of Your Fertility) says that the first day of your cycle is the first day of bright red flow.

[crazyeight]

took OPK has a faint line.... STILL spotting on cd 10 (not to metion the 3 days i spotted before "AF")...wth? 7 is usually my max and i just wish it would end! so is there any documentation on people who DO ovulate but actually DON'T temp shift (or very very minor)?

[Mrs_Lurker]

dhinderliter - check out my cycle #9. It's another reason I don't much bother with temping. For one thing, I'm really bad about it anyway, so it wouldn't be reliable, and secondly, it stresses me out. I know I ovulated that cycle, I had the horrid ovulation pain, the fertile mucus, and a positive OPK. But I don't really see a clear shift that cycle. If I had seen those temps on someone else's chart, I would have thought it was anovulatory.

[crazyeight]

Originally Posted by Mrs_Lurker

dhinderliter - check out my cycle #9. It's another reason I don't much bother with temping. For one thing, I'm really bad about it anyway, so it wouldn't be reliable, and secondly, it stresses me out. I know I ovulated that cycle, I had the horrid ovulation pain, the fertile mucus, and a positive OPK. But I don't really see a clear shift that cycle. If I had seen those temps on someone else's chart, I would have thought it was anovulatory.

thats a great example! i am assuming FF gave you the red line but not a coverline? i was wondering if FF would consider me annovulatory if i didn't have a temp shift...although maybe the OPK is what made ff reconsider? i am HOPEING that things straighten out but i am very sensative to my surrondings and i can FEEL my temp rise as soon as my brain turns on...theres no way for me to get a real resting temp most of the time because my temp rises super quick. i don't want to temp all the time but at this point at least maybe i can realize MY normal. how do you get the extra temps in that aren't connected? i wanted to put in some "normal" time temps and thought maybe ff would consider those values (i am usually .2-.7 degrees lower than the normal 98.6)

[Mrs_Lurker]

Yeah, they gave me the red line, but no coverline. I'm not clear on why not. There's a couple of others here that understand their software a little better than I do. If you don't have a temp shift, and no other "signs," then yeah, they'll try to tell you it's an anovulatory cycle. I think that as long as you're getting at least three consecutive hours of sleep, you can count that temp as accurate. The temps that aren't connected are discarded temps. I've thought of doing that too, say, temping before bedtime and using those values, just to see if there's a real difference. I'm not sure it would tell me anything useful, but it might be a fun experiment. Hopefully, your cycle will sort itself out soon!

[cutekid]

My last cycle was great even with the odd beginning. I am not sure how to account for those high temps at the beginning. This cycle started with me waking up and seeing that my Temp had dropped and sure enough AF showed up that day.
I am working out 4 to 5 days a week and really don't see a difference in basal body temp. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing LOL. My body temp has always been below the average of 98.1. I have read that low body temps are an indication of other problems.

That's all for now I am off to read the rest of the posts.

[texaspeach]

Originally Posted by Mrs_Lurker

Yeah, they gave me the red line, but no coverline. I'm not clear on why not. There's a couple of others here that understand their software a little better than I do. If you don't have a temp shift, and no other "signs," then yeah, they'll try to tell you it's an anovulatory cycle. I think that as long as you're getting at least three consecutive hours of sleep, you can count that temp as accurate. The temps that aren't connected are discarded temps. I've thought of doing that too, say, temping before bedtime and using those values, just to see if there's a real difference. I'm not sure it would tell me anything useful, but it might be a fun experiment. Hopefully, your cycle will sort itself out soon!

you got a vertical red line only for that cycle because you were using OPKs, but no cover line because your temps were not clear (probably because there is a temp missing on CD18 when FF thinks you ovulated)

[Sihaya]

Can someone take a look at my chart? I have been lazy about checking CM and CP (less lazy than finding it impossible to put a finger up there when holding a squirming babe and not comfortable with doing it while he lays there on the bathroom floor looking up at me) and my temps have been wacky this month. I can't figure out when I O'd. Also, the only time my temp has ever been this high (yes, 97.7 is high for me - even when I'm on my thyroid meds), was when I was pg.

DH and I dtd the night of CD15, but used pull n pray (we usually use condoms during fertile times, but with baby around, we usually forget them or they are in the same room he's sleeping in, or whatever), so I'm hoping that the chances of pg are slim, but could use some reassurance/expert advice. I did take a hpt this morning (I still have a buttload left over from TTC and they expire in December, so why not?) and it was a stark white negative, but I'm wondering when I should be looking for AF to arrive or if a pg is still possible at this point.

[crazyeight]

Originally Posted by Mrs_Lurker

Yeah, they gave me the red line, but no coverline. I'm not clear on why not. There's a couple of others here that understand their software a little better than I do. If you don't have a temp shift, and no other "signs," then yeah, they'll try to tell you it's an anovulatory cycle. I think that as long as you're getting at least three consecutive hours of sleep, you can count that temp as accurate. The temps that aren't connected are discarded temps. I've thought of doing that too, say, temping before bedtime and using those values, just to see if there's a real difference. I'm not sure it would tell me anything useful, but it might be a fun experiment. Hopefully, your cycle will sort itself out soon!

i think a chart taking your normal temp every day might help. if anyone is sensative to their surrondings then knowing if your cooler/warmer could show that although a temp is high/low for a coverline pre/post o it might show that we always temp at .5 or 1 degree lower than our daily temp. not sure....i don't know if i want to go through all that work though!

i think i am back on the af train. yesterday was soooo light and i thought i would have nothing today but i checked my CP there was MORE blood and was tinged with red and was pink when wiping yesterday....so i guess its not the end. maybe another 5-6 days? geeze! i don't have a definate yes/no on my chem. pg but now with this i have to say its a definate yes....i'm bleedig for the length of a PP bleed!

[akaisha]

Originally Posted by Sihaya

Can someone take a look at my chart? I have been lazy about checking CM and CP (less lazy than finding it impossible to put a finger up there when holding a squirming babe and not comfortable with doing it while he lays there on the bathroom floor looking up at me) and my temps have been wacky this month. I can't figure out when I O'd. Also, the only time my temp has ever been this high (yes, 97.7 is high for me - even when I'm on my thyroid meds), was when I was pg.

DH and I dtd the night of CD15, but used pull n pray (we usually use condoms during fertile times, but with baby around, we usually forget them or they are in the same room he's sleeping in, or whatever), so I'm hoping that the chances of pg are slim, but could use some reassurance/expert advice. I did take a hpt this morning (I still have a buttload left over from TTC and they expire in December, so why not?) and it was a stark white negative, but I'm wondering when I should be looking for AF to arrive or if a pg is still possible at this point.

well i'm no expert, but if you did O on day 20, then you're only 8 DPO (and have only 6 (or 7 depending on the day with no temp) DPO above the coverline), that could easily be too early for a HPT to pick up a pg, it depends how long your luteal phase usually is. you can tell when AF is due by looking at your old charts to see how long your luteal phase usually is, if it's usually 10 days you should have AF in about 3 days, etc.

in any case, if you DTD on CD 15, and didn't O till CD 20 it's possible that you could be pg (sperm can survive up to 5 days), but not all that likely. it's hard to say without having any info on CM, since they would need five days of fertile CM to live from CD 15 to 20. and since you did use withdrawal, your chances of being pg are less than if you didn't.

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anyway, i'm on CD 27 11 DPO and spotting, so I expect AF tomorrow. looks like we were right, i did O on CD 16. i still can't believe how quick my cycles normalized. this is only my second cycle off the pill and the first one i O'd on CD 15, had an 11 day LP, and my cycle lasted 26 days. this time i O'd on CD 16, had an 11 day LP, and my cycle will likely last 27 days. crazy.

[Mama2Dane]

Originally Posted by akaisha

anyway, i'm on CD 27 11 DPO and spotting, so I expect AF tomorrow. looks like we were right, i did O on CD 16. i still can't believe how quick my cycles normalized. this is only my second cycle off the pill and the first one i O'd on CD 15, had an 11 day LP, and my cycle lasted 26 days. this time i O'd on CD 16, had an 11 day LP, and my cycle will likely last 27 days. crazy.

Oh, me too! I expected weird cycles for at least a few months, but they seem pretty average so far. The only weird thing is that before bcp, my cycles were very long (32-40 days) and erratic. These last two cycles post bcp have been 28 and 27 days respectively. The only other thing that changed while I was on bcp was me going vegan, but I don't see how that would have an effect.