June IUIs - Page 2

[poetgirl]

Originally Posted by DLT

poetgirl, thanks for the explanation. The 7DPO test will be accurate even on the progesterone. It just may mean your levels look higher than normal - which I think is what happened with mine, but they can still tell whether you've o'd.

Good luck in your 2WW and sending back to you some :.

Thanks DLT! I'll def. do the progest. test next week!!
How are you holding up? Recaulking your bathtub, weatherstripping your windows yet?

[LiamsMommy31905]

Originally Posted by poetgirl

Q: how do they tell if you O'd from the u/s? My RE's office said you couldn't really tell that from an u/s but I kind of felt like you could.

My RE's office is SO good with explanations. I have a million questions every time I go and the nurse is so knowledgable.

A follicle is filled with an egg and cushioning fluid. Once you ovulate, the follicle ruptures and the fluid leaks out. You can tell if you have ovulated via ultrasound by looking for free fluid (that has escaped from the ruptured follicle) in the uterus. Also, the follicle looks a bit misshapen and deflated (not a perfect circular shape.)

Also, definitely great news on your CBE digital positive result...that's what I use and she said that the only thing that would cause a smiley face is a sharp rise in LH which is indicative of impending ovulation. Woo-hoo!

[DLT]

poetgirl - I'm definitely going mad. All the cupboards at home are now re-packed and tidy But I'm starting to feel less confident as I'm getting such strong pre-AF symptoms. I'm snacking more, becoming more irritable, and just not feeling as positive as last week. But I'm still trying to be hopeful. :

I guess I just don't know how I'll respond and cope if AF arrives this month.

LiamsMommy31905 - I'm testing on Friday. IT's so great that the nurses you deal with are so responsive to all your questions. It makes such a difference when you understand all the details. Good luck in your 2WW

[LiamsMommy31905]

What amazing timing...I saw this article on the BBC site this afternoon:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7447942.stm

It shows photographs of ovulation during a surgical procedure. It may be a bit TMI...but it's seriously not gory.

[biomama]

Originally Posted by LiamsMommy31905

What amazing timing...I saw this article on the BBC site this afternoon:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7447942.stm

It shows photographs of ovulation during a surgical procedure. It may be a bit TMI...but it's seriously not gory.

SOOOOOOOOO cool!!! I love those images! How amazing! I wonder what magnification that was? It didn't look all that zoomed in... I wonder if the egg sac is really that huge? I guess a full size follicle is a few cm, so it could be that big?

Thanks for posting that!

[DLT]

Those pictures are amazing. Nice to know exactly what's going on during ovulation.

[LiamsMommy31905]

Okay, girls...I'm really committing now.

I posted a link to my FF chart in my sig. I usually don't do that because I have an online stalker but I think she's found another victim.

[EastbayK]

Poet- I'm pretty sure I had a false positive from clomid this past cycle. For this upcoming one, the dr. says no OPKs.

My cycle is all screwy now. I'm 16 dpo with 2 BFN's but still high temps. I've has spotting for 3 days now, beginning on the day I expected AF, but it's never gotten any heavier. I saw the RE this morning who checked me for a cyst, saw none and gave me a new rx for another round of clomid. It got upped again, to 150. I've been responding to the previous dosages, so I don't know if he figures eventually I'll have so many eggs that one will have to fertilize and implant or what. He said increased monitoring this time and no OPK testing due to the false positive and bad timing for the IUI last cycle. I asked him if maybe I could get an rx for something to help build my lining better (making the connection that it's too thin and that's why AF is so sparse and I can't have implantation if it's too thin...) but he didn't want to give anything quite yet.

Good luck everyone else!

kim

[biomama]

Kim, did your doctor do a blood hcg beta test? I've always had one even when I have a heavy period with a temp drop because they don't want me to take clomid if I'm pg, so they are super paranoid to rule it out. They have said they wanted to double check because at my CD3 U/S my lining was still a little thicker than they'd have expected...

I'm a little surprised they are going forward with the next cycle given your signs/symptoms... Keep us posted!!

LiamsMommy, sounds like you had a great IUI! good luck in the 2ww... feel free to vent here as much as you like!

poetgirl, won't your prog be high because you are taking it? Or do they expect it to be higher than a certain level when you are taking prog sups? I'm confused...

how's everyone else??

I'm going in for my U/S today (CD13) but also for the IUI!!! I got my "peak" on my CBE monitor yesterday so I guess my surge is early this cycle too! Not quite as early as some of you though... I'm also getting my trigger shot today. I feel like it's all a bit too late, but if I ovulate today, who cares if I also get a trigger shot, right? I am also hoping today is good timing with the IUI. I'm starting to get paranoid that the timing is all-important, down to the hour. Like, what if I ovulated this morning, and we do the IUI this afternoon. Will my egg still be alive? ?????? I guess I'll get more info today at the U/S. I'm also asking about how long sperm live, and the stats for success rates per IUI.

[DLT]

EastbayK - I agree with biomama, you should have a blood test to just confirm what the doc thinks.

biomama - good luck for your IUI today. Hope this is the one!!

I'm surviving this 2ww (BARELY)! I have 3 more days of work and then Friday morning is my blood test. Hope AF is far away and doesn't show up for the next 9 months... :

I need to keep myself distracted, but it's so difficult. How are the rest of you doing?

[biomama]

hey, it's me again. Our IUI today went well - DH got us 40 mil good ones and they gave me a nice painful hCG shot. My bum hurts! The U/S showed that I had two follicles that were quite big (~1.5cm, one on each side) and there was fluid around my ovaries, indicating I had just ovulated. I hope the timing was good! We go in for the second IUI tomorrow morning. That one might be unnecessary, but we'll do it anyway.

The nurse said that the washed sperm live 2-3 days in the uterus, which is much longer than I'd thought. The doctor said the eggs, once fully mature (through both cell divisions), lives for 8-12 hours in the lab (for IVF) but they can be released before they are fully mature as well. That would give them a little more time, so they consider the window to be 24-36 hours max.

DLT, hang in there!!! I'll be waiting for your updates this week!!!

[DLT]

It seems AF has arrived. I've started spotting and will wait for the rest of today and tomorrow if it becomes more.

I am SO angry and upset. DH will be devastated when I tell him. Has anyone gone for counselling at all? Is it worthwhile?

[DLT]

Originally Posted by biomama

hey, it's me again. Our IUI today went well - DH got us 40 mil good ones and they gave me a nice painful hCG shot. My bum hurts! The U/S showed that I had two follicles that were quite big (~1.5cm, one on each side) and there was fluid around my ovaries, indicating I had just ovulated. I hope the timing was good! We go in for the second IUI tomorrow morning. That one might be unnecessary, but we'll do it anyway.

The nurse said that the washed sperm live 2-3 days in the uterus, which is much longer than I'd thought. The doctor said the eggs, once fully mature (through both cell divisions), lives for 8-12 hours in the lab (for IVF) but they can be released before they are fully mature as well. That would give them a little more time, so they consider the window to be 24-36 hours max.

DLT, hang in there!!! I'll be waiting for your updates this week!!!

I'm glad your IUI went well. And thanks for the info on low long washed sperm lasts.

GL for your 2WW!

[biomama]

DLT, I feel your pain. That sucks. I have thought about counseling as well, but we haven't done it. My plan is to go to a RESOLVE meeting if this cycle fails (there is one in early July, right after I'll find out about this one).

We're here for you if you need to vent. We all feel your pain.

[DLT]

thanks for your support biomama - I know I'll get out of this spiral once we start our next cycle, just didn't think it would be this emotionally draining. I just need a few days.

[biomama]

DLT, I always underestimate how devastating it is to get AF. Even after BFNs and dropping temps, I always manage to be in denial until AF shows up. Then I'm knocked out by it. I think the hormones also mess with my head. IF is really really hard.

LiamsMommy31905, that sounds like a story! I'm always grateful to have plenty of charts to obsess over other than my own, so thanks for posting yours! I promise not to stalk anything other than charts

Kim, any news?

Poet, how are you doing?

the rest of yous??? what's happening?

[poetgirl]

DLT, Oh I am SO sorry. It's terribly hard esp. at this point to get af/bfn and I send you countless for your week. Just not fair.

Kim, Yes to a blood test even though you don't think your timing last month was good. How did you and your doc decide last month was a false pos? Did you use a digital opk? And when did you get your "surge"? When you had your IUI, did the nurse say your cervix looked ready to O, os open, cm, etc.?
Sorry for all the ques. I'm just trying to decide how to feel about this month!


Biomama, Excellent for confirmed timing (a golden thing I think, having had none), great s. count and two follies! My nurse got back to me about the uterus sperm life issue too and said what yours did, but added that they're not as fast/strong after 12 hours. I also didn't realize that it's much better to O w/in a 6 hr. window of the IUI due to the chance of an ectopic w/ all these fast swimmers hanging in the uterus. Crud. Dh had a lot of fast ones and I was def. outside that 6 hr. window. What can we do? We are all such brave souls over here. As far as the egg, so that means it could last 8 hrs min, 36 hrs. max?

Leah, That was great to see the "live" O! Wow! A whole new level to add to my visualizations! LOL

Moi? I'm having lots of progesterone supp. symptoms, tired, bloated, big bbs, a little nauseous. Good times. Hoping and praying. I go in Wed. for the P level test and also to assess what these 3 clomid cycles have done with the RE. I've had a P level test on prog. before and it doesn't always make the blood test super high. The highest I ever had was after taking 100 mg of Clomid and then 200 mg of prog. That gave me a 14, which is passing but not conflated from the drugs.

[EastbayK]

Thanks for the advice everyone. But with a BFN at 16dpo and spotting that finally turned into something I could call AF and an ultrasound that showed I had a thined out lining and a mistimed IUI, I'm pretty confident about not being preg. Although ironically, yesterday when I went to get my prescription filled, the pharmacy wouldn't do it because the Dr. had forgotten to fill in the line with my name on it. I felt like snatching it away from them, writing my name on it and then giving it back to them with a "here, are ya happy now", but I didn't. So starting clomid is delayed by one day.

Poet- last month I went in for a day 12 ultrasound and they did an OPK there that turned up positive. From having just looked at my follies, the Dr. and I were both suprised because the follies were still looking a little small. I tend to O around day 15, not day 13. But we went ahead and scheduled for day 13.That morning I took an OPK at home and it was neg. Just prior to the IUI they did an LH blood test. I continued temping and according to that didn't O until 2 days later, when we had expected me to. Yesterday the dr. confirmed that the blood test showed that it was a false positive. I don't remember them saying anything particular about my cervix during the IUI. I remember it being easier than the cycle before, but I had a different Dr. doing it the first time as well.

K

[blueyezz4]

Hey everyone!!! I have been kinda following along with this thread trying to learn as much as I can from you IUI ladies. I will be joining you all come the July IUI thread so I figured it would be good for me to start paying attention to what is going on. First off, good luck to you all!!! Hopefully the BFP will be coming your way fast!!! : Secondly, my question for you ladies is...when you have to give yourself the trigger shot to make yourself Ovulate does it have to be at a certain time of the day or just on a certain cycle day morning or night??? I know it is kind of a weird question, but I'm just starting to think ahead. Also, do they always check your Progesterone levels after having an IUI? I know I have read that sometimes they will put you on Proges. suppositories right afterwards is that right??? Is that a precautionary measure or just depends on what your P levels after the test. Sorry I'm so clueless here. Thanks!!! to you all!!!!!!!!!

[poetgirl]

Originally Posted by EastbayK

Poet- last month I went in for a day 12 ultrasound and they did an OPK there that turned up positive. From having just looked at my follies, the Dr. and I were both suprised because the follies were still looking a little small. I tend to O around day 15, not day 13. But we went ahead and scheduled for day 13.That morning I took an OPK at home and it was neg. Just prior to the IUI they did an LH blood test. I continued temping and according to that didn't O until 2 days later, when we had expected me to. Yesterday the dr. confirmed that the blood test showed that it was a false positive. I don't remember them saying anything particular about my cervix during the IUI. I remember it being easier than the cycle before, but I had a different Dr. doing it the first time as well.

K

GL with this cycle K! Thanks for the explanation. I can't believe I could have had a blood test after my IUI to indicate if I should have kept testing or not. Ugggh! I swear, I am always behind here. I *wish* my fert. clinic were more on the ball. We're moving from CA to MI this summer so hopefully I'll have better luck there. For now, I'll just have to hope we got it right I guess.

Blueyezz, I've never done a trigger so I don't know there. Some clinics will put any woman doing ART on prog. to help keep preg. Some only do if your P is low or borderline. Def. have it checked. Time and again woman don't know they are low and that can have heartbreaking effects.

As my new thread says, I am feeling mild crampy-ness and I think it's from the high dose of P or because I didn't really O when I think I did and now I've pumped all this P into my body and suppressed my O or...it's an early preg. sign. Always something to wonder about in the 2ww, eh?

How's everyone doing?