Can of worms anyone? - Page 3

[irony_optional]

Originally Posted by library lady

I apologize if you took offense at the way I interpret information.

I'm not offended--I just don't like the logic that, for example, some people will stop getting pap smears, so that makes it bad. If the thing actually works as advertised, then we can educate people to get pap smears (and protect themselves in other ways) in addition.

The question for me is whether it's effect and whether there are acceptable adverse reactions.

[runes]

Originally Posted by irony_optional

I'm not offended--I just don't like the logic that, for example, some people will stop getting pap smears, so that makes it bad. If the thing actually works as advertised, then we can educate people to get pap smears (and protect themselves in other ways) in addition.

The question for me is whether it's effect and whether there are acceptable adverse reactions.

To me, there is no such thing as an "acceptable" adverse reaction.

To each their own on that, I suppose.

And mamakay mentioned the big study that was done on Gardasil's efficacy, which obviously cannot be determined by looking at immunogenicity alone. Look at the numbers from the study she quoted.

[library lady]

Originally Posted by irony_optional

I'm not offended--I just don't like the logic that, for example, some people will stop getting pap smears, so that makes it bad. If the thing actually works as advertised, then we can educate people to get pap smears (and protect themselves in other ways) in addition.

The question for me is whether it's effect and whether there are acceptable adverse reactions.

I am not sure how you got that out of what I originally said. I don't think it would make people get fewer pap smears. I think it would give a false sense of security. You know, "I was vaccinated, so how could I have that?" Or, a doctor might not consider a diagnosis because he sees that you have been vaccinated against it. Whether or not people stop getting pap smears is irrelevant to me when considering this vaccine. If people choose to stop getting a pap as a result of being vaccinated, then they are making a very uninformed choice.

[runes]

Originally Posted by library lady

I am not sure how you got that out of what I originally said. I don't think it would make people get fewer pap smears. I think it would give a false sense of security. You know, "I was vaccinated, so how could I have that?" Or, a doctor might not consider a diagnosis because he sees that you have been vaccinated against it. Whether or not people stop getting pap smears is irrelevant to me when considering this vaccine. If people choose to stop getting a pap as a result of being vaccinated, then they are making a very uninformed choice.

This happens all the time.

[mamakay]

Originally Posted by irony_optional

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The question for me is whether it's effect and whether there are acceptable adverse reactions.

Me, too.
When it's effectiveness is so questionable, the adverse reactions matter less.

[thechuzzle]

When I was watching Oprah, her OB/Gyn was asked this question specifically, and she said save your money. The risks of the vaccine are to high, it only protects against 4 virus types, and she says it's better to spend your time and money learning how to prevent transmission and practicing safer sex. I have to totally agree with her.