How many of you had abx? and vaccines? UPDATED

[changingseasons]

I'm really curious about this, after seeing it pop up in so many other threads here. I have come to the conclusion that DD's and my allergies/intolerances are a result of:
- life time use of abx, steroids, NSAIDS, etc. for me
- abx during pregnancy (2x)
- abx during labor
- one round of vaccines for DD

I know many of you share similar stories, but I guess I'm curious how many don't as well... how many LO's end up with these food issues with no abx/vaccine exposure?? If you choose the last option- please leave a comment!!

I'm going to make this a multiple-answer poll, so choose all the options that apply to your situation(s).

OH- and I'm really looking specifically at FOOD allergies/intolerances/sensitivities.

*** I don't know if I can change the poll options or not... but the third option should really be: "I received abx during or just after labor". Or in your early weeks of BFing- really any way that your LO could have received abx-tainted colostrum or milk.

I'm really curious about those LO's who have had NO exposure to abx or vaccines.

[nalo]

My only hx is one round of abx during labor. No vax for DD. Well, I recently had to have a 5 day course of abx due to a rapidly spreading infection in my foot but that had nothing to do with our current situation. I couldn't even tell you the last time I had abx before the ones in labor. I am also curious if there is any correlation between amount of history (if that makes sense) and degree of food issues. So, for example, CS and her DD seem to have pretty significant hx IMO and her DD has tons of intollerances. I have fairly little history (again - hope that terminology makes sense) and my DD has only one known intollerance (dairy) although I am too scared to try eggs again so it might be two. We have other things cut out to help healing and prevent any allergies (gluten, peanuts, shellfish, etc.) though. Also, my DD has no skin issues - her symptoms were all GI related.

[Astromom]

I voted none, although I guess I've had my fair share of antibiotics in my life (as a kid mostly).

Through TED and journaling, we have determined that DS is allergic to corn. Also he's intolerant to dairy, banana, potato, apples. Has trouble with rice. Haven't yet introduced gluten, egg, peanut, soy, shellfish (and a bunch of other things). He's also allergic to cats. My DD (his older sis) is only intolerant to food dye and strawberries.

My MIL is allergic to shellfish (has an epipen) and DH is allergic to cats, so I figure DS's allergies are genetic. But since DS reacts through the milk, part of the problem must be my leaky gut (due to my previous life being very full of gluten and dairy I guess, and my own childhood antibiotics and vaccines).

[Chinese Pistache]

No family history of allergies, but I had lots of abx growing up, have taken way too much Tylenol/Advil throughout my life, and had abx for GBS during allergic dc's labor.

I'm interested to see what happens with my lo now. I took *loads* of probiotics during my pregnancy and he was born at home. Also, prior to my pregnancy, I was working pretty aggressively on gut-healing because of dd. My new baby is my little science experiment

[krissi]

I voted that my affected LO received abx (at birth), but honestly I don't believe that was the direct cause of all his issues. It probably didn't help anything and I wish he hadn't had them since they were prophylactic and not to treat anything, but he has too many weird issues going on for me to assume that the abx were the source of it all.

[Alyantavid]

I've had antiobiotics before. Once while pregnant with my oldest, never with my youngest. Both my kids were vaxed, my 6 year old completely, my toddler was vaxed up to 1 year and not any since.

They both have issues with dairy and seasonal allergies.

[tysmamaca]

I voted 'none of the above' because I didn't have abx during labor but I did have them right after my DD was born. I suppose that could have affected her through my colostrum/breastmilk. She never had any abx or vaccines before she developed severe eczema at 8 weeks. She still has not had any vaccines but she has had to be on abx twice for staph infections on her skin due to the eczema.

Currently she is 2 1/2 and eczema free but has food allergies to wheat and dairy. I'm really not sure what caused them but the abx I received after her birth I'm sure did not help. There is also a family history (on both sides of the family) of food and environmental allergies.

[changingseasons]

Just updated- see post #1.

I probably should have added an option for those who had c/s as well, since I forgot to add that as yet another one of the (potential) causes for DD's issues.

ChinesePistache- I am excited to hear how your science experiment turns out! If I only could do it all over again....

[tanyalynn]

I voted other because I think my son's intolerances (gluten, casein, cashews & chocolate) are related to the mercury in my fillings (obviously my health is messed up by them, which is why this occurred to me as a possible cause). His immune system is also weak (based on how often he gets sick--even after he wasn't in daycare anymore) so those seem related to me. My environmental allergies showed up at the same time as my fillings went in--not that I noticed it then, of course (and I can trace back other, non-allergy stuff to that time period as well). I was on oral abx at the end of my pregnancy with him for a throat/ear/nose infection that just wasn't clearing up, but my gut seems to bounce back from abx--I don't have a lot of leaky gut symptoms and my digestion seems pretty normal (not saying that's good, but not noticeably bad). And this past year, as we've done vit/min supps to help with the mercury, my son's sensitivity to gluten & chocolate has dramatically reduced--I haven't messed up with cashews or casein as far as I know, so I haven't seen if they're getting better too. But I am hopeful that by the time we're done with the mercury stuff, and just adding in good, commonsense healthy-gut stuff like food probiotics and broth, we'll all be in good shape and most, if not all, of our intolerances will be gone (really not sure about the gluten though).

That's our story. Interesting topic.

ETA after re-reading the original post: my son's not vaccinated.

[dannic]

I'm a none of the above girl--what I did have, tho, were lots of yeast issues...as I've pondered this, for our family, I really feel it comes down to a mix of epigenetics, predisposition in DH fam, and poor food supply. So we are starting from the ground up to pass on healthy traits and healthy ideas of food and eating. Dh and dd are very similar in health, ect...

ETA: I myself have never had vax or abx as well...

[time machine]

I don't know anything about this....

[mtn.mama]

I was vaccinated during the 70s. My dd has received none. I had antibiotics a few times growing up, then one shot of abx during my Cesarean. My dd has received none.

What do I think happened? I think I had underlying food sensitivities from birth that went undiagnosed (FTT, seizures with food triggers, chemical intolerances) until now. Then the pregnancy hormones set things into motion... and symptoms became noticeable but still evasive. Next the Cesarean whammied us due to abx.

[momofmine]

Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache

No family history of allergies, but I had lots of abx growing up, have taken way too much Tylenol/Advil throughout my life, and had abx for GBS during allergic dc's labor.

I'm interested to see what happens with my lo now. I took *loads* of probiotics during my pregnancy and he was born at home. Also, prior to my pregnancy, I was working pretty aggressively on gut-healing because of dd. My new baby is my little science experiment

This was exactly me. I had abx in DS1's labor (an intramuscular shot only, for GBS positive, I was in an out-of-hospital birth center). I was vaxed in the 70's but nothing recent. I also had multiple rounds of abx when I was about 16-17 for repeated "strep throat". It turned out I had allergies. I never had gut symptoms, but I definitely had other symptoms like brain fog, fatigue, sinus infections, other things, that I think were probably related to imbalance of bacteria. My DS1 then had major intestinal issues, and we ended up doing the SCD for three years, strict adherence.

Then I became pregnant with DS2. I took probiotics, ate no sugar at all, ate a mostly SCD diet with the addition of some sprouted grains. He was born at home, no abx for either of us, he had no vaccines, had absolutely no allopathic medicine at all ever. And he ended up with a significant peanut allergy.

He has had abx one time, but that was recently, well after the peanut allergy emerged, and I wish we hadn't even done that.

So, for DS1, the only thing was one shot of abx in labor and maternal/paternal history and health.

For DS2, there were no abx, no vax, no c/s.

I agree with the PP who said we are starting with our health when we give birth, and passing our state of health on. A few months before I got pregnant with DS1, although we had been doing the SCD and were working majorly on gut healing, I had went off the diet and started eating a lot of carbs again. DS1 had stoped nursing, so that was no longer a motivation. I was under a lot of stress, and I definitely had a few times where I binged on carbs and sweets. I remember one time, in the month or so before I got pregnant, eating tons of peanut butter and crackers, and indulging my sweet tooth. The moment we conceived (which was not planned but I knew it right away because I knew the moment that I ovulated), I went back to the better eating. But, I don't know! It still perplexed me that he ended up with a peanut allergy.

There are some societies that have BOTH the man and the woman eat a certain diet for 6 months or something like that before they conceive. Makes sense!

[Shelsi]

Originally Posted by Astromom

Through TED and journaling, we have determined that DS is allergic to corn. Also he's intolerant to dairy, banana, potato, apples. Has trouble with rice.

What brand of rice did you try? My dd has corn allergies and the only brand of rice she can eat is Lundberg's. I've talked to other people with corn allergies and many of them believe that all the other brands are contaminated in some way.

[Shelsi]

I didn't have antibiotics, no vaccines, etc. In fact dd has never had anything put in her body, not a drop of tylenol or other medicine, no homeopathics, no vit K at birth, etc. And yet she's allergic to corn, dairy, wheat, and egg.

The only thing I sort of wonder about is that when I was 7 mos prego I got shingles. The pain was the worst pain I have ever had in my whole life...I was completely non-functional with the pain. So I did take a half of a vicodin about twice a day for about 5 days or so. Also I was on anti-virals at that same time. I don't really feel that this caused her allergies though.

One thing I've always wondered about though: Starting at around 35 weeks or so I had my one and only craving while pregnant: corn. I was OBSESSED with it. I ate it for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and midnight snacks. It went away as soon as I gave birth. I've always wondered if that gave her the corn allergy or if she already had it and that was my body's strange way of reacting to it??

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by Shelsi

One thing I've always wondered about though: Starting at around 35 weeks or so I had my one and only craving while pregnant: corn. I was OBSESSED with it. I ate it for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and midnight snacks. It went away as soon as I gave birth. I've always wondered if that gave her the corn allergy or if she already had it and that was my body's strange way of reacting to it??

You know, I couldn't get enough dairy, eggs, and almonds while I was pregnant... and those are 3 of DD's current allergies (and mine too!). I think pregnancy in general just did a number on my body, because my body is starting to reject foods that were previously fine for me. :

[joybird]

We didn't vax but I had one dose of abx in labor. I also had threatened pre-term labor at 30 weeks and was given abx and steroid shots for an entire 24 hours. If only I had known then what I know now.

[Chinese Pistache]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

You know, I couldn't get enough dairy, eggs, and almonds while I was pregnant... and those are 3 of DD's current allergies (and mine too!). I think pregnancy in general just did a number on my body, because my body is starting to reject foods that were previously fine for me. :

Pregnancy is a really common time to develop allergies because of hormone and immune system changes. I developed an allergy to nickel with my 2nd baby and to corn with my 3rd (and she's the one allergic to corn). My corn allergy has since gone away, though, but not the allergy to nickel (my ears swell up when I wear any cheap jewelry).

[Shelsi]

FTR, with my ds I was induced and had the antibiotics the entire time so for about 15 hours or so. He had all his vaxes up until 12 mos of age, Hep B at birth, vit K, the works. I had more antibiotics for mastitis when he was about 4 weeks old and he had a round at around 6 mos for an ear infection. He doesn't have any allergies. Well...he used to react to me eating nuts...just spitting up...that went away by the time he was 6 mos old. We had him tested anyways and he came back extremely allergic to pistachios...we had him tested again a few years later and everything came back negative. We do treat him as if he is allergic to nuts but my mama instinct says that he is not and the initial test was a false positive.

[dannic]

Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache

Pregnancy is a really common time to develop allergies because of hormone and immune system changes. I developed an allergy to nickel with my 2nd baby and to corn with my 3rd (and she's the one allergic to corn). My corn allergy has since gone away, though, but not the allergy to nickel (my ears swell up when I wear any cheap jewelry).

Wow! I've never related my metals allergy with the pregnancy, but that's when it started...My dh's theory is that I was already heading down this road and the prengancy just REALLY broke the camel's back (for me, bot dd). I can't even wear my wedding ring...