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[minkajane]

Originally Posted by Fi.

Yep :\. His twin too I believe.

No, his twin died in a car accident a few years before David's suicide.

[luckysam]

I did not bring our choice up to debate it, merely to say we can't assume things about people. I think when we are trying to affect changes, it's important to keep in mind that everyone does deserve to be respected as people doing what they believe is right, whether it's right for us or not. Sometimes it's hard, but it keeps the door open.

I really understand the frustration, and obviously when we see people doing something we feel is horribly wrong, we get angry, we want to protect those being hurt. But in the end, shouting at anyone mostly makes them run away or fight harder for their rights. Talking to them and understanding where they are coming from, starts a dialogue where they can hear your point of view and learn.

We know shouting at our children and trying to parent from a place of anger isn't good, but we think acting out of anger will get us the best results in society. It's normal, we all do this, but at some point I think it helps to remember that however misguided people might be, seeing them as people actually gives them a reason to listen. I did this with a co-worker before I realized I had been judging her personally for disagreeing with me, and I already knew her to be a wonderful person, and I just had one of those realization moments! lol

Anyway, just wanted to throw my perspective in there about the whole thing. I respect that it is probably a little different.
Love to you mamas!

[Ilaria]

Originally Posted by luckysam

we can't assume things about people.

I can assume a lot about someone who choses to mutilate their children.

[californiajenn]

Originally Posted by luckysam

I did not bring our choice up to debate it, merely to say we can't assume things about people. I think when we are trying to affect changes, it's important to keep in mind that everyone does deserve to be respected as people doing what they believe is right, whether it's right for us or not. Sometimes it's hard, but it keeps the door open.

I really understand the frustration, and obviously when we see people doing something we feel is horribly wrong, we get angry, we want to protect those being hurt. But in the end, shouting at anyone mostly makes them run away or fight harder for their rights. Talking to them and understanding where they are coming from, starts a dialogue where they can hear your point of view and learn.

We know shouting at our children and trying to parent from a place of anger isn't good, but we think acting out of anger will get us the best results in society. It's normal, we all do this, but at some point I think it helps to remember that however misguided people might be, seeing them as people actually gives them a reason to listen. I did this with a co-worker before I realized I had been judging her personally for disagreeing with me, and I already knew her to be a wonderful person, and I just had one of those realization moments! lol

Anyway, just wanted to throw my perspective in there about the whole thing. I respect that it is probably a little different.
Love to you mamas!

Could you please post the research that you used to make your decision?

[luckysam]

Originally Posted by californiajenn

Could you please post the research that you used to make your decision?

If you want to pm me to talk more about it that would be great.