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15 yr old temper tantrums vent

post #1 of 16
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I don't know what to do with my DS. I'm really feeling like I don't want him in my house anymore. EVERYTHING I say gets a smart ass remark back. He really melts down when I have to tell him no or he doesn't get something he wants. The last two days we've had MAJOR blowouts with him cursing, yelling, throwing things, punching walls, I even got called a B!!
It's going to be a VERY long summer and I'm worried about my younger three learning this behavior from him. He can be so much fun and we laugh together all the time. It's just when he doesn't get his way....all hell breaks loose. I find myself thinking, "only two and a half more years and I'm free".
Anyone know of a family who wants to adopt a raging 15 yr old boy with self control issues????
post #2 of 16
Is he just behaving this way with you, or does he do it with other family members, friends, or at school?
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post #4 of 16
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It's kind of his overall mode of operation.....Just worst with me.
Thanks for the hug...it feels so awful to not want your own kid around. My whole mood is so down in the dumps. I'm having a hard time pulling it out for my other kids. I feel like I'm being emotionally abused by him. If he was a boyfriend or husband, I'd get away from him!!!:
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by milkmommie View Post
"only two and a half more years and I'm free".

ahhh but we'll never be free will we? ok i can joke because I have a dd who is still having rages .. and she is 19

anyway I don't have anything wise to say .. just that I feel you.. and just hold on, your his mother and you know nobody will ever love him like you do so you are his safe zone .. .you know ... not to say that you should allow him to be abusive .. just a glimpse into his point of view.

with my ds when things start to spiral out of control i find some bonding time for just the 2 of us really helps

when my dd first started raging i discovered that she was doing meth - it was very scary and i hid in denial for a while, but she finally stopped and started taking zoloft and it reduced her outbursts tremendously

she stopped taking the zoloft and was just fine for 1 1/2 years until she was 6months post pardum and they started back again.. i really dont know what to say about that ... i would love for her to take the zoloft again but she refuses
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by milkmommie View Post
It's kind of his overall mode of operation.....Just worst with me.
Thanks for the hug...it feels so awful to not want your own kid around. My whole mood is so down in the dumps. I'm having a hard time pulling it out for my other kids. I feel like I'm being emotionally abused by him. If he was a boyfriend or husband, I'd get away from him!!!:

Oh mama, I can relate to this. More than I like, I've had periods where I felt, if I didn't have to there's no way I'd be around my DD. She has at times displayed the same obnoxious bullying behavior. It was affecting the entire family.
I realize that overwhelming emotions are part of adolescence (and life in general)but I don't see tantrums as a given or acceptable behavior. They become habitual and self destructive. I encourage you to not only set limits for your own emotional safety but for your son's mature emotional development.
He may need a fair amount of support and specific strategies for changing the behavior. It certainly will require more effort to help him than it does to just ride out the rages.
We finally sat down with DD and her dean who she loves and brainstormed strategies for her to pull it together.
Recognizing that under all the bravado was a lack of self esteem, we came up with the following plan. Perhaps it can give you some ideas for supporting your son.
First and foremost, DH and I examined where we are being too controlling. We do not take responsibility for her choices but had to look at where she wasn't getting any and how we could give her more. The dean gave us this book about Choice Theory...very enlightening.
We created a contract of sorts with our daughter, highlighting all her strengths and listing specific behaviors that were undermining to herself and her relationships. The list isn't long but we have zero tolerance for them and she is asked to leave when they come up.
She attends her Kung Fu class twice a week and Tai Chi once a week. She's good at this and doing it frequently helps her to feel good about her self.
She agreed to listen to a self confidence guided meditation CD at least once a day.
We bought her LOTS of journals. She is a prolific writer.
She is attending a Buddhist Warrior camp this summer which focuses on transforming aggression into compassion.
So far, things are going pretty well although she still grumbles about going to "Buddhist Military Camp."
post #7 of 16
Personally, I'd look into having him examined by a doc to make sure there are no chemical imbalances going on, and then have him start seeing a counselor. 'Cause that behavior just isn't typical.
post #8 of 16


It sounds like maybe more coping mechanisms are in order. Whether that's something he can figure out himself, you help him figure out, or a professional counselor helps with. He needs acceptable means to vent, maybe punching bags or video games or chopping firewood. And then language to express his feelings and needs once he's calmed down past crisis mode.

Were his lead levels checked as well? I have heard that behavioral problems are a symptom, in littles at least but seems reasonable it could be for bigger ones too.

I have a copy of Beyond Anger: A Guide For Men here that you're welcome to borrow, if you think he'd like to read it, or even if you'd like to read it and try to incorporate. Goodness knows my H is never going to bother.
post #9 of 16
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Thanks for the suggestions...I'm going to look into some martial arts here for him, if he wants.
It's hard because since he was 7yrs old we've been in and out of therapy. He's been on and off of a laundry list of meds. None of them seems to really help. And if I had a quarter for every useles therapist/social worker/counselor we've seen, DH could quit working.
I kind of don't know where else to turn. It feels like everyone else in the family has to suffer for his "issues". I cannot drag all of the other little ones around to appointment after appointment trying to find a good therapist. Not to mention, we have no medical coverage right now.
I know I'm whining. I just feel really painted into a corner with him right now.
Thanks for letting me whine.
post #10 of 16
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I have a copy of Beyond Anger: A Guide For Men here that you're welcome to borrow, if you think he'd like to read it, or even if you'd like to read it and try to incorporate. Goodness knows my H is never going to bother.
Hi
Thanks for the offer of the book. He's pretty receptive to stuff like that. I'm going to ask him if he'd like to read it. I'll let you know.

Last night he came and told me that he's figured out why he's been such a "prick"(his words, not mine). He says, "it's not your fault, it's not my fault. I just have to get over it." He doesn't want to talk about what it is.
I'm having a hard time letting it go and not badgering him into telling me.

I'd love to find a way to help him deal with the sressors of life in a more healthy way. I'm just SO out of ideas. It also doesn't help that his Dad has not been a great example of that during most of his life. It seems like whenever DS has something stressful going on, he completely falls apart. I wish I was better at helping him. It seems like at this age, his patterns are on their way to being set and it's going to take some real life consequences/lessons to get him to change his ways...not Mom/kid consequences.
Dunno, I'm SO lost when it comes to teenagers.
post #11 of 16
Your DS sounds a lot like mine. He is 15 also. He has ADHD. I think that explains some of it in our case. We didn't know he had it but I suspected...just found out last summer. He has trouble coming to terms with it. Plus my dh is bipolar and has been awful to him, which doesn't help matters.

You might find this book helpful. I have really gotten a LOT out of it! Yes, Your Teen is Crazy by Michael Bradley. I don't feel so alone after reading this book. Most moms I know seem to have perfect teens...but maybe they're just ashamed and struggling alone, like me.
post #12 of 16
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Most moms I know seem to have perfect teens...but maybe they're just ashamed and struggling alone, like me.
nak
Thank you !!!!! Maybe it's a sign of my unhealth but I find myself looking at other parents with teens and wondering if they're as miserable behind closed doors as I am!!!
Thanks for the book rec. I"m off to look it up
post #13 of 16
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nak
Thank you !!!!! Maybe it's a sign of my unhealth but I find myself looking at other parents with teens and wondering if they're as miserable behind closed doors as I am!!!
Thanks for the book rec. I"m off to look it up
You are welcome!

I just discovered this website and a related forum:

http://www.yesyourteeniscrazy.com
http://www.docmikebradley.com/vBulletin/
post #14 of 16
My son is 15 and being horrible lately too. He isn't punching holes is the walls, but he did do that for years. And we live in a very old house with thick, plaster walls! He called me a b**** the other day and it wasn't the first time. That was it. I told him I was done. He could make his own dinner, wash his own clothes, go to school (we homeschool) and find someone else to talk to when he has a problem because I'm done. I meant it too. Everytime he asks me to do something for him I tell him no, because he's been such a jerk to me for so long and because he called me a b****. He acts like I need to stop being so sensitive.

I know this is him pulling away and becoming more independent. I know most kids do it in some form- maybe just not as obnoxiously. Still, I feel like I'm living with a bully or at the very least, the world's most obnoxious roommate.

You have my sympathy.
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post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by milkmommie View Post
Last night he came and told me that he's figured out why he's been such a "prick"(his words, not mine). He says, "it's not your fault, it's not my fault. I just have to get over it." He doesn't want to talk about what it is.
I'm having a hard time letting it go and not badgering him into telling me.

I'd love to find a way to help him deal with the sressors of life in a more healthy way. I'm just SO out of ideas. It also doesn't help that his Dad has not been a great example of that during most of his life. It seems like whenever DS has something stressful going on, he completely falls apart. I wish I was better at helping him. It seems like at this age, his patterns are on their way to being set...
Dunno, I'm SO lost when it comes to teenagers.
It is how ridiculously hard it is to be a teenager. People want you to "grow up" and "act mature" but theres almost nothing a teenager is allowed to do in our society that lets him "grow up!"

Im really not liking all the get-his-head-checked type suggestions from PPs. The most mentally messed up kids Ive known in my life all benefitted the most from simple physical excercise. I have punched and kicked my fair share of holes in my parents walls... Its this overwhelming buildup of frustration.. Teenagers arent given any control over their lives and it really sucks to be caught in that situation. Take that man to kick boxing! Rugby! Or regular boxing, or track and field, just something physical to get that frustration out. Otherwise its just going to keep getting released in the forms of holes in your walls! I dont understand why parents miss this obvious fact, It's sooo much harder to be pissed off and frustrated with your life when you are busy going from one physical activity to another and coming home feeling accomplished, wiped out, and ready to just relax.

And dont even think about badgering him to tell you whats bothering him. Hes probably never going to. Its fine to let him know "Hey, Im interested in helping you solve your problems, if you would like to share them with me" but when a parent follows a teenager around the house nettling and asking "Whats wrong!!" all the time, holy crap is that a recipe for disaster.

So dads not around and the son hasnt learned how men deal with stress... Meet him up with a group of mentor types (sports educators, something like that, church members even) who can help guide him. If he releases his stress physically (maybe because he doesnt know how to before it comes down to that), let him, just in a more acceptable way than messing up your house.. punching bags are a great outlet!

His patterns are just beginning to be formed and anyone can change, so dont give up on him. Remember, hes a man, just a young really pissed off one who (from the sound of it) has no appropriate way to express lifes many frustrations.

edit - i dont mean to sound like i disapprove of your parenting or anything, God knows i put my parents through hell until recently. it just seems like its such an obvious solution to excercise an angry person. but i know its also easy for ppl whove never met your family to say "oh you should do this!!" ou know, like they know you or something lol. so good luck, im just throwing out what worked for me and my angry teenaged posse :P
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