Are you planning on vaccinating this baby? - Page 2

[Alcyone]

Yikes! Everyone here is very pro-BFing. I'd be shocked and appalled if a nurse said anything against it!

[guestmama9920]

Originally Posted by Alcyone

Yikes! Everyone here is very pro-BFing. I'd be shocked and appalled if a nurse said anything against it!

Your in a different world Here they claim to be pro BF but in theory they claim most babies need "top ups" which finally the mother stops cause her supply is gone

How are the BF rates there (sorry for off topic)?

[Alcyone]

The most recent numbers I've seen are 98% at discharge and 75% at 4 mos, which is when peds here say it's OK to introduce other foods.

[honeybee]

Ds1 was nearly fully vaxed. We didn't do newborn hepB (but he did get it at 2 months), or varicella. He's also missing 1 or 2 of the newer vaxes.

My plan with ds2 was to hold off on vaxes until he turned 2, which we did. Then when I started trying to decide what to give him at age 2, I discovered that most of the diseases are either ONLY a problem for the under-2-year-olds, or primarily a school-age disease. So, we haven't given him any vaxes.

I need to decide about dc3. I might do a couple of the vaxes for the infant years. Or, I might just make sure the rest of us get DTaP, for instance, but not actually give it to the baby. Ds1 is in school now, so we'll be exposed to more as a family. Plus, we'll be hitting cold and flu season shortly after this babe is born. I don't know, I need to do more reading again.

I also need to learn more about homeopathy and other natural remedies and immune boosters.

[DocsNemesis]

Nope-not until hes much, much older, and then only selectively. My 2 year old isnt vaxed at all either.

I researched all the diseases, what they do, how they are transmitted, etc, and the number of cases in the US each year. My conclusion was my kids arnt at risk for any of them, most arnt that easy to catch (ie, they arnt airborn or caught by touch), and the few that were easier, really werent that bad even if they caught it. I am going to pick a few specific things to vaccinate against before they start school, but they wont be getting nearly everything and I will be signing on the back of the immunization record thing that they are unvaxed.

Having said that, my oldest is fully vaxed and my daughter is almost fully vaxed but was delayed until she was 3. My ds has had pertussis TWICE now! And my unvaxed daughter didnt catch it! lol Anyway, I wouldnt be able to put their vaccines in anyway because I refuse to get the stupid chicken pox vax. Ugh.

[DocsNemesis]

Originally Posted by Alcyone

I don't know anything about well baby visits in the US, but here in Denmark a nurse comes to you and it's as much about the mama as the baby. They just want to make sure everything's going ok and give you a chance to ask questions if you have any. I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm guessing there's little in common with what goes on the US, though.

I got yelled at by a ped because my dd hadnt been in for a well baby visit yet (my 3rd-and this wasnt our regular ped who is AWSOME) and was 8 weeks old. I took her in because, even though she'd been seen by my midwives 3 times (that WAS her visit imo :P), she was still very jaundice and I was begining to wonder if something else was up. I knew it wasnt at dangerous levels, it was just lasting soooo long. So I took her in to get the peds opinion and wow...I wanted to slap her, lol. She completely freaked, acted like my dd was going to die, sent us over to the hospital for tests. Then an hour later, when the results were in she came in and goes uh, so, her levels are completely safe, and then ran out of the room. My regular ped was shocked when I told her!

And yeah, we dont do *well baby visits* either and my ped doesnt seem to mind. I do very occasionally take my baby in for a weight check, but thats just out of curiosity. I like to keep all my kids away from the docs unless they are actually sick-cause they always seem to come home with a cold after that!

[funfunkyfantastic]

Originally Posted by DocsNemesis

Anyway, I wouldnt be able to put their vaccines in anyway because I refuse to get the stupid chicken pox vax. Ugh.

Is that required now? I hope not... it seems so silly.

[JesseMomme]

Nope. I stopped vaxing when ds1 was 2 years, ds2 was 4 months.

[JesseMomme]

Originally Posted by funfunkyfantastic

Is that required now? I hope not... it seems so silly.

With the schools my kids attended in NY (and I think down here in NC too) chicken pox was on the "have to have to get into school" list. Of course, we had exemptions.

[funfunkyfantastic]

Originally Posted by JesseMomme

With the schools my kids attended in NY (and I think down here in NC too) chicken pox was on the "have to have to get into school" list. Of course, we had exemptions.

That is so stupid... that illness isn't even close to deadly. I had it as a kid and turned out just fine! (gave it to all my sisters too.... lol.) I swear... it's only usually the adults that have any problem with chickenpox... and then only the adults with weakened immune systems. I find no point in vaccinating against chickenpox.

[paquerette]

Never have, never will.

[Lexi_029]

Very selectively and one at a time, just like we do with DD.

[Emily's Mama]

Originally Posted by Lexi_029

Very selectively and one at a time, just like we do with DD.

I don't know much on this topic, so when you say you do it one at a time, do you mean you do the course of shots for the one condition first before vaccinating against other diseases? or do you mean you don't do multiple shots/diseases in the one session? if you commit to vaccinating against a certain disease, isn't it important to have the right interval between them to make them "work" effectively or else there's no point?

[lwuertz]

Originally Posted by Emily's Mama

I don't know much on this topic, so when you say you do it one at a time, do you mean you do the course of shots for the one condition first before vaccinating against other diseases? or do you mean you don't do multiple shots/diseases in the one session? if you commit to vaccinating against a certain disease, isn't it important to have the right interval between them to make them "work" effectively or else there's no point?

Well from what I understand (the little bit I've read) it isn't necessary to do multiple diseases/shots all at once and it is possible to space them out a little bit. And I understand that some kids have better reactions (don't get sick, etc) when they are spaced out. Doctors just group them together for "convenience".

[funfunkyfantastic]

I think she means, for example, that if it were a combo shot like "MMR" she'd separate all the vaccinations out and have her child vaccinated with each at a separate appointment. The same with other shots they like to give all at once too. Also, they give a lot of shots period in one visit anyway, so it makes sense to do them in separate visits to avoid reactions.

[DocsNemesis]

For the record, I'm in Washington too, and YES it is required for K entry now. I just registered my dd for kindergarten and had to sign that she is unvaxed because I refuse to get that stupid vaccine. She's missing a couple others at the end of a series (I think MMR is one) but still, so stupid.

If you want to selectively vax, I'd suggest going to the CDC website and reading up on each individual disease. For instance, getting a baby vaccinated against Hep B just seems completely and utterly idiotic. Several are only concerns in kids under 2-and if your child is home with you, theres almost zero chance of them catching them (again, these arnt things you can pick up from a shopping cart handle or the air). Others, the immunity length is questionable and honestly, the diseases are treatable, or not that bad. In my moms generation, measles and mumps weren't seen as a scary thing-to them, it was like getting chicken pox. But now everyone is so scared of it and if things continue, two generations down the line, everyone is going to be so scared of chicken pox. Its just silly. Polio is transmitted by oral-fecal contact and there were zero cases of it in the US last year. Basically reading up on each and every one of the diseases and talking to my mom/grandparents about some of them as well, all my fears went out the window.

I think I'm waiting until my dd is 5 or so and doing one vax at a time, for those things I feel its necessary to get. The 5 year old vax schedule is so much smaller to begin with, I dont think she'll end up with many

[amitymama]

I selectively vax and delay some as well. DD didn't get the pneumococcal/meningitis vaccine at all and I waited until she was 20 months to get the MMR. I wouldn't give her the chicken pox vax either, if that was on offer here (which it isn't, thank goodness)

[Marielle]

Nope we don't vaccinate. My oldest was vaccinated until he was 9 months old and I started researching. Since then none of my children (or the adults in this house) get vaccines.

[ryansma]

We selectively/ delayed vax'd ds and and will do that again with this little guy.

[boobyfeeder]

No vaxing here. DD1 was vaxed through 12 months, when I started questioning why there was a shot for chicken pox. After more research, I decided to stop vaxing altogether, and DD2 has never had any. I'm always learning, and my thinking is that I can always have them vaxed later, I can never UN-vax them.