JULY IVF Cyclers. - Page 13

[airmide_m]

I'm 8dp3dt. I've been getting little pms type cramps since about Monday (3dp3dt) (TMI warning) yesterday I started getting a little *very* slightly pink/brown tinged creamy CM, then today I woke up to a tiny bit of bright red spotting.

Does that sound about right in timing and description to be implantation spotting? I did POAS and the result was a clear bfn but I expected that so early.

[Julia'sMom]

Originally Posted by airmide_m

I'm 8dp3dt. I've been getting little pms type cramps since about Monday (3dp3dt) (TMI warning) yesterday I started getting a little *very* slightly pink/brown tinged creamy CM, then today I woke up to a tiny bit of bright red spotting.

Does that sound about right in timing and description to be implantation spotting? I did POAS and the result was a clear bfn but I expected that so early.

I don't know, but it sounds hopeful! I know I had major (lay in bed) cramping the day after a 5dt and then continue to have minor cramping on occasion even up to now.

I think you asked earlier about the timing of the beta. Mine was 10 days after ET, 15 days after ER. I did POAS 8 days after ET and it was a bfn. Hope that helps!

[airmide_m]

Thanks! I'm serioulsy starting to stress. 10dp3dt now and still snow white on the pee sticks. Cramping badly off and on, and still spotting somewhere between pink/brown/red off and on.

I'm really thinking I may get the first beta done on Wednesday (12dp3dt). I just can't stand the thought of waiting till Friday, and then them not calling me till Monday. Or calling with bad news Friday. We've been invited to a BBQ Saturday and I'm sorta looking forward to it so I'd rather get the devestation out of the way if it's coming (yeah I'm doing a GREAT job of thinking positive huh?)

[Julia'sMom]

Originally Posted by airmide_m

Thanks! I'm serioulsy starting to stress. 10dp3dt now and still snow white on the pee sticks. Cramping badly off and on, and still spotting somewhere between pink/brown/red off and on.

I'm really thinking I may get the first beta done on Wednesday (12dp3dt). I just can't stand the thought of waiting till Friday, and then them not calling me till Monday. Or calling with bad news Friday. We've been invited to a BBQ Saturday and I'm sorta looking forward to it so I'd rather get the devestation out of the way if it's coming (yeah I'm doing a GREAT job of thinking positive huh?)

I'd really hold off on the POAS if you can. It's just so much pressure. And don't give up yet, 10dp3dt is the same as 8dp5dt when I also got a snow white pee stick. Yet, my beta was fine. Do you notice if you're cramping badly shortly before a bm or gas? I know that's when I usually have ones that tend to double me over. Regardless, I'm sending you lots of sticky vibes :

[airmide_m]

Talked to the nurse and she said it was fine to go for the beta today. It was negative. Don't know the exact numbers. Should have detected *something* by now right?

I was cramping with gas sometimes but mostly just normal PMS type cramps. And once several days ago I sneezed and thought my ovary exploded lol.

At this point I'm almost relieved to have the answer even though it's bad. I was stressing out really badly everyone telling me it would be fine (not here, I appreciate that support, I mean in real life with people who haven't been through it) when I knew it wasn't going to be.

Now I have to wait till NOVEMBER because my doctor's schedule is really busy. And I am scared it won't work even then because he had so much trouble finding enough sperm this time and it could be even worse next time.

[Julia'sMom]

Airmide - I'm so sorry. Take time to grieve and then I hope you do get to enjoy the BBQ on Saturday.

[crazyrunningmama]

airmide. Take care of yourself.

[Sri Radha]

Airmide: I am so sorry! Have you tried any of the ways people try to improve sperm? There's a thread about it somewhere around here. Maybe Maca powder? You are in my thoughts and prayers. I wont be having an FET until October/Novermber-ish so maybe we will be cycling together again. Much love to you.

[OrganicSister]

This is probably a stupid question but a friend who unsuccessfully went thru IVF a couple years ago mentioned that I would continue having to do hormone shots AFTER a positive pregnancy test.

Now I admit to being sort of out of it when it comes to handling the IVF (not like me at all but perhaps my coping mechnism?) but I did *not* know I'd have to keep up with the hormones part the ET. Why? Is it absolutely necessary?

IVF is kinda out of my element as it is. We're a bunch of natural hippies. The idea of hormones WHILE pregnant worries me to no end. And are ultrasounds absolutely necessary? Cuz I really don't want one while pregnant at all.

I guess I was just hoping I could get a positive pregnancy test, then walk back to my non-western medicine lifestyle and leave all the icky stuff there. How long will I have to stick around before I can give the doctor the boot?

[OrganicSister]

P.S. I started an August IVF thread for anyone interested.

[Julia'sMom]

Originally Posted by OrganicSister

This is probably a stupid question but a friend who unsuccessfully went thru IVF a couple years ago mentioned that I would continue having to do hormone shots AFTER a positive pregnancy test.

Now I admit to being sort of out of it when it comes to handling the IVF (not like me at all but perhaps my coping mechnism?) but I did *not* know I'd have to keep up with the hormones part the ET. Why? Is it absolutely necessary?

IVF is kinda out of my element as it is. We're a bunch of natural hippies. The idea of hormones WHILE pregnant worries me to no end. And are ultrasounds absolutely necessary? Cuz I really don't want one while pregnant at all.

I guess I was just hoping I could get a positive pregnancy test, then walk back to my non-western medicine lifestyle and leave all the icky stuff there. How long will I have to stick around before I can give the doctor the boot?

OrganicSister - the only hormone that continues after ET is progesterone (and I think there's some kinda steroid around ER and ET to help with implantation). Anyway, the progesterone is to help sustain the pregnancy and yes, it is necessary. My understanding is when they do the ER they also take away a lot of the cells that would tell your body to start producing progesterone to sustain the pregnancy. So, you need to substitute, it looks like possible until 12 weeks.

There is probably some descrepancy as to how many ultrasounds, if any, you'll need. They will want to verify location of pregnancy (uterus vs. ectopic) and the number of pregnancy (singleton, twin, etc). Beyond that the rest is for monitoring and peace of mind. I don't believe they can do anything if the pregnancy is not growing, so I don't think they're necessare required.

Your RE will likely want to keep you until around 12 weeks, however you can give him the boot when you're comfortable since you are the client. Just make sure you know what to do about progesterone and I know I'm trying to not burn any bridges in case, heaven forbid, I need help again. Good luck.

[crazyrunningmama]

not pregnant

My second beta came back at only 8, apparently last week is was 91 so they were a bit worried anyway (not that they told me that). So I guess I was pregnant for a minute. I hung up on the nurse before she could even tell me what happens now. Wait for AF, I guess.

[pinkfriend]

Oh no.... I am so sorry CRM. Take care of yourself...sending you lots of positive energy and hugs of course.

[DM630]

Crazyrunningmama-
I am so sorry to hear your news.

[Sri Radha]

CRM: I am so sorry. I can't believe this! I am sending lots of love your way.

[Julia'sMom]

crazyrunningmama - I'm ssssoooo sorry. Take care of yourself and know that you are in our thoughts.

[crazyrunningmama]

I just wanted to say again - thank you everyone for your kind thoughts and support. I really appreciate it. I am doing okay and being thankful that we will be able to do at least one FET (13 frozen embryos). Only one friend IRL knew I was going through this and I am glad I had the extra support here.

back to all of you
and good luck to each of you on your own journey :

Oh, and we booked my flight to Vegas, now just have to organize childcare.....

[LisaG]

Glad to hear you have Vegas to look forward to CRM. And yay for frozen embies. Take good care of yourself

[Julia'sMom]

CRM - Yeah for Vegas! Be sure to enjoy some of those tasty beverages for me too! Good luck when you do you FET and I wish you the best.

[crazyrunningmama]

Originally Posted by Julia'sMom

CRM - Yeah for Vegas! Be sure to enjoy some of those tasty beverages for me too! Good luck when you do you FET and I wish you the best.

I will (hmmm Bailey's). Although I wonder if people reading this think I am a complete idiot being excited about Vegas instead of being pg. My IRL friend keeps telling me "you know you're still crazy" ie. from hormones, emotions etc. and she's right. I feel like I'm not making any sense and I'm just coping moment to moment. I look forward to updates from you Julia'sMom, I enjoyed having you for a cycle buddy and I am so excited for you and your TWO babies. Are you telling anyone yet?