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post #1 of 33
6/17/08 at 10:30am
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When DH, who is in his mid-40's, and I were fighting over whether or not to circ ds, he gave me the old argument that if he's intact he will be a "freak" and will be made fun of for being different. I shot back with the 50% circ stat and that it's much more common to be left intact these days.

Well, my DD, who is almost 3, goes to a daycare/preschool. I usually pick her up earlier than the other parents do and I usually hang out at pick up time and chit-chat with the DCPs and other parents as they come in.

I sort of feel like a freak, but when DCP is doing diaper changes, I sometimes try to peek just to see who is and who isn't. While I know what the circ rate is nationally, I'm interested in the circ rate right here in my neighborhood. I want to know will my son be different from the kids he will grow up with?

To my happy surprise, the answer is NO! Almost ALL boys in my neighborhood are left intact!!! I've only spied 2 circ'd boys at dd's school. It's sort of funny and yet totally sad at the same time--the parents of the circ'd boys probably had the procedure done because "it's just what you do..." But it seems most people aren't doing it anymore.
post #2 of 33
6/17/08 at 11:34am
That is wonderful news. I have three brothers who are all intact and even a childhood friend was so I actually thought it was the norm. I was shocked when it came up in conversation that a baby had been circ'ed when I was an adult and after I had DS and MIL came to visit when he was a week born. After being there for less than ten minutes she asked if DS was circ'ed. Seeing how it was the norm growing up I have hope that it will one day be the norm everywhere.
post #3 of 33
6/17/08 at 12:42pm
Nice to hear this!
post #4 of 33
6/17/08 at 1:19pm
I just had to post this...ok, my first born isnt my dh's, he was a condom oops baby and his bio dad hasnt seen him since he was 9 months old. So anyway, he was 18 months old when I met my dh. We got engaged and ended up pregnant with our dd and everything was well. Anyway, we'd been together almost a year and we were up at his parents house when somehow it randomly got brought up (circing). My MIL had assumed that my ds was, but when I said no, hes not, she said "OH THANK G-D!!!" LMAO. Not exactly the reaction you'd expect!! She's very against RIC and always has been-we found out later my dh was never supposed to be circ'd and (I already knew this part) his brothers werent. I <3 my MIL
post #5 of 33
6/18/08 at 12:41am
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Originally Posted by TeresaZofia View Post
But it seems most people aren't doing it anymore.
That's great! Do you mind saying what region you're in?
post #6 of 33
6/18/08 at 7:23pm
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That's great! Do you mind saying what region you're in?
Sure, I'm in Los Angeles
post #7 of 33
6/20/08 at 11:56pm
Nice. Gives me hope about future actors and current boy actors. Our next Russell Crowe might be American-born and raised!
post #8 of 33
6/21/08 at 4:24pm
Well, at least I feel a little less nutty now. After my 2 year old's swim class, I also have a habit of checking for circ/no circ when the other parents are toweling off their kiddos. I also want to know if my boy will be too different from his peers. Unfortunately my findings have not been as happy as yours. Out of all those children, I only saw one little boy who was not circ'ed, and his parents were Eastern European. *sigh* I live in Houston, Texas.
post #9 of 33
6/21/08 at 5:24pm
Ha, I guess I do this too. I was at a mommy playgroup at the zoo yesterday and during diaper changes I snuck a peak just to see. One of the boys was intact and the other was cut. It was actually the first time I'd ever seen an infant circumsized penis and it looked horrible
post #10 of 33
6/21/08 at 8:14pm
My daughter's preschool class goes swimming every week, and the kids all shower after their swim in the rec center pool. I always went along on swim days last year and I noted that exactly half of the boys in her class were intact, and half were circ'd. This year I was along for several swim days, but the teacher was more of a "manager" and called the kids forward to step into showers two at a time and closed the curtains on them. I think most of them showered in their suits, too. (Last year they were littler and all were wearing swim dipes that got stripped off before the showers, and they just crowded into showers naked together with no curtains pulled.)

I guess I could have tried to spy as they were getting dressed this year, but I never did. It was a bigger class and there were more boys in it, so I'm not sure how the statistics broke down.
post #11 of 33
6/21/08 at 9:17pm
It's always great to hear how the circ rate is dropping .

Cari, your MIL sounds great .
post #12 of 33
6/22/08 at 4:04pm
The majority of my friend's have intact boys.. I'd day about 70-80% of them. And most of the mamas that did circ, regret it now.
post #13 of 33
6/22/08 at 4:12pm
It would be interesting to know where all of you mamas with lower circ rates live. I live in TX and while the stats say TX and the south have a lower circ rate than some areas, it's been my experience at work that it is not. I can't honestly speak concerning my kids playmates. I really don't ever see them nude but most of my friends circed their kids (done before they knew me or I would have tried to change their mind).
So if you're seeing a low circ rate or even half & half in your area, please let us know your town, or at least state.

Dallas/Ft Worth, TX = high circ rate.
post #14 of 33
6/22/08 at 4:22pm
In Utah I would think it's about 50-50. But I'm not sure.. I hang out in crunchy groups, lol.
post #15 of 33
6/22/08 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by Night_Nurse View Post
It would be interesting to know where all of you mamas with lower circ rates live. I live in TX and while the stats say TX and the south have a lower circ rate than some areas, it's been my experience at work that it is not. I can't honestly speak concerning my kids playmates. I really don't ever see them nude but most of my friends circed their kids (done before they knew me or I would have tried to change their mind).
So if you're seeing a low circ rate or even half & half in your area, please let us know your town, or at least state.

Dallas/Ft Worth, TX = high circ rate.
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Originally Posted by LizzyQ View Post
In Utah I would think it's about 50-50. But I'm not sure.. I hang out in crunchy groups, lol.
Utah is one of the states that mercifully removed circumcision from the list of Medicaid reimbursable items. It is quite possible that this has a reasonable impact on the situation. LA, CA (the OP) hasn't had circumcision on Medicaid since 1982. So perhaps this has a measurable impact.
post #16 of 33
6/22/08 at 4:47pm
I agree. I have also been told that the south has the next to lowest circ rate of all the US regions, but that hasn't been evident in my experience.

Houston, Texas = high circ rate
post #17 of 33
6/22/08 at 5:16pm
That's great. I love that I only know of two circ'd little boys (both nephews) in my circle of friends and family. Of course, I'd like for there to be none, but...

I really appreciate it that as I have friends who become pregnant and then have sons, there's not even a need for the circ conversation. Everyone in my life just knows it's wrong and keeping their DSs intact is not even an issue. It just is. As well it should be!
post #18 of 33
6/22/08 at 7:36pm
Medicaid may be a factor, but local attitudes can have a big impact. My contacts over in Berkeley have been reporting that over the last 10-20 years it has become almost the norm to leave boys intact. Most of these parents would be carrying insurance and are white middle\upper middle class.
post #19 of 33
6/22/08 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Night_Nurse View Post
It would be interesting to know where all of you mamas with lower circ rates live. I live in TX and while the stats say TX and the south have a lower circ rate than some areas, it's been my experience at work that it is not. I can't honestly speak concerning my kids playmates. I really don't ever see them nude but most of my friends circed their kids (done before they knew me or I would have tried to change their mind).
So if you're seeing a low circ rate or even half & half in your area, please let us know your town, or at least state.

Dallas/Ft Worth, TX = high circ rate.
Tacoma/Seattle Washington = low circ rate. (from what I've seen)
post #20 of 33
6/22/08 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by liliesandliars View Post
I agree. I have also been told that the south has the next to lowest circ rate of all the US regions, but that hasn't been evident in my experience.

Houston, Texas = high circ rate
I was going to agree...and then I remembered I'm living in a military town and lord knows circumcision rates of military kids = HIGH (*especially* in people who are from places where circumcision isn't done)
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