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post #21 of 33
Why is that? My son's father is in the Marines and his guys gave him hell when they found out that his son isn't circumcised. Which made him even more resentful of my decision, of course. I never really understood why the military is so pro circ.
post #22 of 33
Hm, it's "chop chop", literally. Chop the hair, chop the penis, so to speak.
The military familys I know= the guys insist on circ and most women just end up saying "well, he's got the Penis and will make the Penis decisions. It's important to him".
One family I know is an exeption-he is intact and so is is son, but the mom is also one the biggest activists.

But then I also notice how that extends to the vax issue- as if the family is "military" also and one mom told me how a nurse was blackmailing her that her refusal to vax her son would result in "consequences" for the husband- that just makes you say what the f***?

Unfortunately circ rates around here (New England) are still high. It seems to be the "upper middle class-WASP" rule and circ is still very prevalent. Before I actively sought out other "granolas" I didn't know a single one intact, breastfed, cloth diapered or GOD BEWARE, unvaxed baby.

I will never forget that separate little room in my hospital's nursery with the 2 circumstraints I saw-despite being wiped down the genital ares is stained with desinfectant and worse, blood. 2 very distinct colours. They can wipe everything off as clean as they want- it eat's it's way into the plastic. That's almost like a stain of conscience.
My DS was hospitalized and was in the nursery (I was able to be with him 90% of the time) and I heard one being being tortured. I realized they even postponed that boy's circ until my DS was back in my room. Guess they did't want me witnessing that.
Awful, just the picture with those 2 stained circumstraints are burned into my brain, not to mention that horrible screaming., which by the way could still be heard.

While that Doc was circing away the other boy in the nursery that nurse wanted to take my DS back there so he could be "released" from the hospital. Ah no, no way, my Baby goes to that Doc back into a room without me where someone else was being tortured. Turned out to be no problem, Doc came to us, the nurse got my drift. Doc looks at him and says "Oh, he's not circed, well, that's an option too."

Yes folks, your boys genitals are "options". I just wanted to barf.
post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by liliesandliars View Post
Why is that? My son's father is in the Marines and his guys gave him hell when they found out that his son isn't circumcised. Which made him even more resentful of my decision, of course. I never really understood why the military is so pro circ.
Why did they give him hell? Seems like a weird subject to discuss in the first place and talk about ignorance.
post #24 of 33
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Why did they give him hell? Seems like a weird subject to discuss in the first place and talk about ignorance.
I don't know?

Because they're all cut men under the age of 25 and they don't have anything else to do but rag on each other out there? I don't think it's at all unusual for young (cut) men to talk about circumcision if they happen to be ridiculing those who are not.
post #25 of 33
maybe its just me but i think scoping out the genitalia on baby boys is extremely odd.

great for circ rates going down and stuff but

WTF
post #26 of 33
My ex-boyfriend was a military child and he was left intact, but I'm not about to go ask his parents why at this point in time His father's extensive military service background was actually a factor in why I erroneously thought he must be circumcised (the military = circumcision stereotype was alive and well in my high school!).

In Kitsap County, WA (the other side of Puget Sound from Seattle) the circumcision rate is *extremely* low. When I ask pregnant women if they've looked into the circumcision issue, they generally are appalled that I would think they would even CONSIDER circumcising their child. It's great! It helps that the local hospitals (except the Naval hospital, of course...) don't perform RIC.

love and peace.
post #27 of 33
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maybe its just me but i think scoping out the genitalia on baby boys is extremely odd.

great for circ rates going down and stuff but

WTF
I agree 100%. I would have a major problem if I caught anyone doing it and I would probably file a complaint if it happened at my ds's preschool/daycare. That is NOT OK with me at all. In a day and age when we as parents have got to be so vigilant to protect our children from predators I would suggest you not do that anymore (not implying you are a predator, just that some parents might freak)

As far as feeling different...my oldest is circ'd my younger two are not. They haven't even noticed. I am fairly sure if you don't make a big deal about it he won't either.
post #28 of 33
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Originally Posted by go0ber View Post
maybe its just me but i think scoping out the genitalia on baby boys is extremely odd.

great for circ rates going down and stuff but

WTF
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My son is not circ'ed for many of the reasons that are important to others here, but I also would be very uncomfortable if anyone was purposely trying to ogle his genitals to discern whether he was or not. If it is that important of an issue to you, ask directly. I respect my son's genital integrity and that extends to allowing him privacy at any age. Just because you can sneak peeks in changing situations, doesn't mean you should.
post #29 of 33
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My son is not circ'ed for many of the reasons that are important to others here, but I also would be very uncomfortable if anyone was purposely trying to ogle his genitals to discern whether he was or not. If it is that important of an issue to you, ask directly. I respect my son's genital integrity and that extends to allowing him privacy at any age. Just because you can sneak peeks in changing situations, doesn't mean you should.
Although I understand the intensions, and the importance of this issue to many of the people here. I have to admit I am a little uncomfortable about it to. I imagine if I was 13 or so years younger, I would probably no mind running around naked, but I would probably a little weirded out if I knew someone was purposefully trying to look at my penis to see my circ status.
post #30 of 33
I find it weird and seriously creepy that someone would "hang around" to check out penises to see if they are cut or uncut. First, it's none of your business, second, it's just plain weird. I would think there would be better ways to spend one's time that staring at boys and trying to figure out the circ rate for their area. Ugh.
post #31 of 33
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I don't know?

Because they're all cut men under the age of 25 and they don't have anything else to do but rag on each other out there? I don't think it's at all unusual for young (cut) men to talk about circumcision if they happen to be ridiculing those who are not.
Sorry, I think it's sort of weird. I have been in plenty of locker rooms and nobody ever discussed other guy's genitals, unless it was playful teasing or something, lol. I am guessing that's what happened here. If that's the case, nobody was giving one another hell.
post #32 of 33
I'm not defending them by any means. It's been my experience that cut men will make fun of penises that are intact. Ever heard of the term anteater? Pig-in-a-blanket? Yeah, it's immature and rude, but it's far from uncommon. This is not an isolated incidence, I've heard it plenty of times in my life coming from male friends.

And as for "giving him hell" vs. "playful teasing," what exactly is the difference? Why exactly would "playful teasing" about an intact penis be okay, whereas "giving someone hell" about an intact penis would not be okay? Either way, an intact penis is being made fun of. I'm not sure what your argument is here, unless it's simply your resistance to the idea that normal men are actually cruel enough to make fun of a friend because his son is uncircumcised.
post #33 of 33
There is a difference. With the one, it's just lighthearted jokes that I personally would never get offended by. I would just joke back. The other is done in a malicious manner. In any case, I was not arguing anything, except maybe to say that its pretty immature for a 25 year old to make fun of a little kid's penis. How would a subject like that come up in the first place? Seems to me that it just shows somebody's intellectual limits. And yeah, in my experience (high school situation, etc) and I think in most people's my age (20) at least, the foreskin never came up as a topic of ridicule. Nobody wanted to get caught looking in the first place.
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