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post #21 of 38
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thanks for all of the advice
I do like the idea of a locking filing cabinet or something of the like.

My hubby and I talked a little bit yesterday about our cleaning issues. We did not really get anywhere.....we just went over things that I already knew. For instance, he said he does not mind if the floor is vacced, he just wants it to be picked up (meaning no toys ect). Well that is great, but I want it to be vacced...that is a huge deal to me. So basically he is more into visiable cleaning and I am into deep cleaning. So between us both it all has to be done. He did say that he was going to try to be more on top of keeping his stuff clean. He had started to slack off. Which his slacking off does not amount to much perhaps a few clothes out here and there...that is about it. He is a tidy person for the most part.



I will say that the kids and I went through that room of theirs. It is much better but far from perfect. I went through the toys that they had out and got rid of most of them (they still have some for me to go through in the closet). I also went through the dressers of clothes and got out some clothes.

So far I have about 3 LARGE boxes of stuff to leave. So I am starting to get somewhere.


Thanks for everyone's help!
post #22 of 38
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Originally Posted by BlessedOne View Post
thanks for all of the advice
I do like the idea of a locking filing cabinet or something of the like.

My hubby and I talked a little bit yesterday about our cleaning issues. We did not really get anywhere.....we just went over things that I already knew. For instance, he said he does not mind if the floor is vacced, he just wants it to be picked up (meaning no toys ect). Well that is great, but I want it to be vacced...that is a huge deal to me.
Sounds like you DID get somewhere... He can pick up the toys, then you can vaccum My strategy for the toys all thru the house on the floors is to give the boys a shopping bag (reusable one) and tell them to go shop all the toys into those bags lol... it actually works more often than not! Then I can vacc without having to bend over 50times to pick up toys.

Oh.. and that locked filing cabinet thing? Only works if it's locked I guess dh gave the boys some drawing paper & didn't lock it back : Sometimes ya just gotta laugh eh? lol

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So far I have about 3 LARGE boxes of stuff to leave. So I am starting to get somewhere.

Thanks for everyone's help!
W00t! Three boxes is a great effort : (don't we just love him? lol)
post #23 of 38
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Sounds like you DID get somewhere... He can pick up the toys, then you can vaccum My strategy for the toys all thru the house on the floors is to give the boys a shopping bag (reusable one) and tell them to go shop all the toys into those bags lol... it actually works more often than not! Then I can vacc without having to bend over 50times to pick up toys.

Oh.. and that locked filing cabinet thing? Only works if it's locked I guess dh gave the boys some drawing paper & didn't lock it back : Sometimes ya just gotta laugh eh? lol

W00t! Three boxes is a great effort : (don't we just love him? lol)
I like the shopping idea....I bet mt kids would do that.
thanks
post #24 of 38
I can't stand putting clothes away either, so I do all the laundry on one day and fold it all and put it away once. I hated the "do a load every day" method. I'm not sure how it will work with 4 kids though-I only have 2 and do 5-6 loads/wk-on Mondays. I'm sure the washing machine and dryer hate mondays as much as DH does Maybe doing 3-4 loads twice a week? I just hated always feeling like I either need to wash/dry or put away laundry... now when it's done it's done!
post #25 of 38
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I like the shopping idea....I bet mt kids would do that.
thanks
That reminds me of a pickup game we played for a while. It was rescue the toys from the vacuum monster. The vacuum loved to eat toys that were left on the floor, and the kids had to pick up the toys as fast as they could before the vacuum at them.
post #26 of 38
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I can't stand putting clothes away either, so I do all the laundry on one day and fold it all and put it away once. I hated the "do a load every day" method. I'm not sure how it will work with 4 kids though-I only have 2 and do 5-6 loads/wk-on Mondays. I'm sure the washing machine and dryer hate mondays as much as DH does Maybe doing 3-4 loads twice a week? I just hated always feeling like I either need to wash/dry or put away laundry... now when it's done it's done!
I hate the all week laundry also. With a family of 5 I can usually do laundry on Monday and Tuesday. Clothes on Monday, towels and linens on Tuesday. I have a super big washer and can hang most stuff out on the line to dry, when the line fills I the rest of the clothes go in the dryer. Then everything gets folded that night after the kids go to bed while I watch my favorite tv show. Then in the morning the kids help put everything away.
post #27 of 38
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I have been continuely going through stuff and although I have ran out of boxes, I would guess that I have about 5 boxes of stuff to leave. I have noticed that since I went through their clothes and got rid of a ton of stuff, I do not dread putting up clothes as much...because now there is room for them and I do not have to try to pack the clothes in an already over flowing drawer...so that is good. Also I have found myself less stressed when their room gets messy because I took out a ton of their stuff. So even when they do get out all of the toys, it still only takes about 15 minutes for them to clean (when I am there guiding them in what to do). Last night we quickly picked up the room before bedtime. I hope to do that when needed until they get the idea that is it better to just put the stuff up when they are done playing with it instead of waiting until they are tired. I know my progress is not perfect, but it is infact progress...which makes me feel better.
I have also realized that my kids have started helping me out without me having to mention anything....which is great. So things are getting better.

I just have a handful of major things to get done...which have been slacked off on because of doing other cleaning things

-4 loads of laundry (which most of it was probably clean...but it came from the kids' floor...so when they cleaned their room...they decided it was all dirty so they would not have to put it back into the drawers...instead mommy has to rewash it and put it up......*sigh*) I think it means you have a lot of clothes when you can make a load for about every color of the rainbow! My remaining loads are:
-white (possibly two)
-black
-beige towels
I had started out with a yellow load, but I then decided to just make it a light colored clothes load (such as khaki, yellow, light green, possibly some light blues)
-possibly a dark clothes load depending on how much

my loads from yesterday were:
-blue
-red
-blankets/colored towels

VACUUM!!! the floor is soooo nasty!!!

and pick up all of the cluttered spots...including closets.........this is the big task....ugg

If I get all of that done and maintain it then maybe my house would stay presentable.
post #28 of 38
With 4 young children can you clean? Or do you more kind of corral the mess?
post #29 of 38
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so there is no fix?!?!?!?!?!? outside of sending your kids to live with relatives.....hehehe I am kidding.

well I was hoping someone found some sort of fix.

I will tell you some of the biggest issues that I would like to resolve (some are my downfalls or should I say laziness...lol)....

1) Getting the clothes put up after they are washed. I am pretty good about washing....although if I go a couple of days without doing any laundry I have to play 'catch up' and then have loads of clothes to put up. I fold them up and put them in the basket.......but I do not get them put up right away.....and before I know it they are being wollowed on the floor by my kids(which is a major pet peeve of mine). I know the simple solution is to just put them up right away...but for some reason this has been a downfall for me. I think it is because they have too many clothes. I need to get rid of atleast half of their clothes.
And I have tried to have the kids put up their own clothes, but it has ended in them just being thrown in the the wrong drawers (if they even make it there). So I have not been doing that much lately......

2) crumb/food plagued floors (another huge pet peeve). I can not stand dirty floors but our vacuum is a rainbow so it is not too overly simple to get out and put up....and due to dustiness of common vacs, I would not change from my rainbow. I have purchased cheap vacs as 'in-between vacs' but have not been happy with the majority of them due to the dustiness of them. And sadly we ONLY have carpet....so vacuuming is not avoidable. I vac atleast once a week and used to 'spot vac' multiple times a day, but the dust of the cheap vacs started to get to me. So I stopped....which has resulted in me being upset about the floors getting dirtied after I vacced with the rainbow.

3) writing all over......which would be remedied by writing untisels leaving (dh suggests) but easiser said than done

4)toy mess (can be remedied)

5) other general mess........(such as kids getting into our stuff)

6) children getting out their clothes from the drawers and throwing them on the floor
the top 2 and the last are the major ones
1) Clean laundry mountains are a huge issue here. (We do 4 loads a day) I THINK I finally have it figured out after trying all sorts of systems. (We have basically a laundry closet off the kitchen, If I had a real laundry room, I'd have a family closet there.) What I finally did was hang one of those day of the week hanging closet organizers (ya know, the ones you put a whole outfit for each day in?) and I fold as it comes out of the dryer. Each kid gets a cubbyhole and because they are small they can (have to) carry them up pretty much after each load. Makes it much less overwhelming for them to put them away, so they actually make it to the drawer.

2)Sounds like you need to drag the rainbow vacuum out everyday. Maybe during the 11:00 news?

3)We have not mastered this one. The older kids leave writing utensils and scissors and super glue and nailpolish out all the time! ARGH! I do have a secret hiding place for the Sharpies. BTW Magic Erasers get everything including sharpie marker off walls. Ask me how I know?:

4)3x a day toy tidy?

5)If you figure this one out, LMK. I have pretty much everything that is precious to me packed away. <sigh> I like having nice things, but so much has been wrecked, I have determined it is not worth it to me.

6)Make them practice folding and putting them away 10x everytime they dump them out? It would get old for them, fast. (I'd hope?!)
post #30 of 38
Drat! I typed a disorganized but longer response and clicked "Go" instead of "Post Quick Reply."

Basically what I said was a few things help me keep things running smoothly around here:

* having the kids clean up when we're all cleaning up, or we're all cleaning up together to finish more quickly so we can go outside/ go to the park/pop popcorn and watch a movie/or whatever our plans are.

* my priorities about having a clean house change often -- w/ a new baby not so important, but when we're in a groove or not as busy, I try to get more done.

* my expectation now is that everything is relatively clean and neat, but that it might not get done all at once very often. So I have a rotation of bigger cleaning tasks and try to get one or two done per day, plus daily dishes/laundry/sweeping/diaper stuffing.

* I try to set the little ones up to succeed. I am probably later to move kids from high chair to regular chair, from crib to big kid bed, from stroller/sling to walking on his/her own, but I try to say yes and let them be independent as often as I can and when it will work well for all of us. I also don't let kiddos have full run of the house until a little later than some friends I know. I've tried a broad range of approaches and having them in our family room with a gate works well for some tasks I am doing and like walking free, I let them roam when it works well for all of us.

* and like Cari said about her clothes...I really have just purged and purged b/c less things that we use all the time are easier to take care of and keep neat and clean. It's been hard w/ a few * ahem * beloved packrats, but once the initial resistance wears off, they enjoy the freedom of not having all the broken toys, extra papers, etc.
post #31 of 38
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BTW Magic Erasers get everything including sharpie marker off walls. Ask me how I know?:
I'll see your walls and raise you CARPET!!!!! Magic erasers WILL take sharpie out of crapet (um carpet sorry, can ya tell I hate the stuff? lol)... if it's a low pile 'smoothish' carpet it will be a bit ruffed up, but at least it won't have a large dark blue swirl right in the middle of the hallway

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4)3x a day toy tidy?
Ya know, I used to have a twice a day tidy.. sorta like a 5minute toy rescue. Before lunch & nap, we'd go thru the house & pick up the toys in a laundry basket & put them away. Then we'd do it again before bed... WHY did I stop this??? because it really is brilliant.
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post #32 of 38
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post #33 of 38
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Originally Posted by BlessedOne View Post

1) Getting the clothes put up after they are washed.
2) crumb/food plagued floors (another huge pet peeve).

3) writing all over......which would be remedied by writing untisels leaving (dh suggests) but easiser said than done

4)toy mess (can be remedied)

5) other general mess........(such as kids getting into our stuff)

6) children getting out their clothes from the drawers and throwing them on the floor
the top 2 and the last are the major ones
Last year, when I found out I was expecting twins and would soon have 4 kids 4 and under, I vowed to get our home and routines in order. And after much work, it has mostly happened. It really is a matter or trial and error, seeing what works for your family. And also, prioritizing and teaching your children to work along with you, not against you.

I have one thing going for me, my children are sleepers. My oldest 2 go to bed around 7:30 or 8:00, my babies go to bed around 9:30. The oldest sleep thru the night till 7:30 and the babies only wake once around 4:00, then sleep till 8:30ish. I am rested so I can tackle the day. I can't imagine getting everything done without sleep.

I get up at 7:00 and shower before the kids start waking up. That way I am never holding up the show. After I shower, I go downstairs and get the big kids breakfast out, fill juice cups, etc. I put away the dishes from the dishwasher, except their dishes which I set on the counter.

The big kids get up at 7:30 and come downstairs to eat. When they are done, they bring their dishes to the sink and I put them away. While I'm doing this, they put away their clean dishes from the dishwasher. I put them in a low drawer and they love putting them away themselves. Plus it keeps them busy while I work.

Then we head back upstairs to get them dressed and cleaned up. They are each in charge of taking their dirty clothes to the chute to throw downstairs. I leave my dirty clothes next to the chute and so does my dh, so they have more to toss since they love pushing them down.

That's how our day starts


1. CLOTHING - each night as my dh reads the kids their bedtime stories, I put away clothes and linens. My oldest's (she's 4) clothes go on her dresser and she puts them away herself. My son's (he's 2) go on his dresser and my dh puts them in his drawers when he's tucking him in. Since we do it everyday, it's minimal and takes about 15 seconds. I put away the rest of the stuff.

2) crumb/food plagued floors (another huge pet peeve). I usually leave this for the evening after the kids are in bed. It drives me crazy, but it is an endless task, so I've given in and decided just to tackle it once a day.

3) writing all over......which would be remedied by writing untisels leaving (dh suggests) but easiser said than done

No writing things are out in our house. My dd has writing stuff in her room that is higher than her brother can reach. But, anything she has is the crayola washable, just in case.

4)toy mess (can be remedied) After dinner, while I'm cleaning up the kitchen, dh helps the kids pick up their toys. Anything left out gets put in a box for one day. One day is an eternity to them, so leaving toys out stopped pretty quickly.

5) other general mess........(such as kids getting into our stuff) I keep all the doors shut to non-used rooms during the day.

6) children getting out their clothes from the drawers and throwing them on the floor - My kids don't really play in their rooms, so they are not there to take stuff out. I don't have a great solution for this. Maybe not let them in their rooms unsupervised for awhile and see if it helps?
post #34 of 38
I wanted to add something

One thing that has really helped me is to involve my kids in the housework. That is our together time. If they want to play, they can go play, but I probably won't be playing with them. We have fun together and do lots of stuff together, but I don't spend my days entertaining them. We do the laundry together and sing songs while we do it. Between the 2 of them, they can turn over the laundry, reload it, clean the lint trap, bring me a basket to fold, and get a new load started. All I have to do is pour the soap. They brag to everyone they know about how good they are at laundry, LOL. We have loads of fun cleaning the produce from our CSA on Tuesdays and trying all the new veggies while we prep them for storage. We giggle and play and race while we clean up our toys. You get the point. I spend lots of quality time with my kids, but it is not me playing with their toys with them. And for the most part, as far as I can tell, they love doing my work with me. This has definitely been a change in perspective for me, but it has been a positive one.
post #35 of 38
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With 4 young children can you clean? Or do you more kind of corral the mess?
typically just step over....lol
post #36 of 38
It sounds like you are ready to tackle it, but you need to stop giving excuses and look for solutions (said in love from a person in almost the same spot).

DUSTBUSTER!!!! Buy it, LOVE IT!! Get the big one and even the kids can use it to clean up their own messes.

Doorknob covers or hook latches to keep the kids out of the office.

www.Flylady.net She has tons of ideas for cleaning with kids that are really helpful, and she is a HUGE advocate of decluttering.
post #37 of 38
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It sounds like you are ready to tackle it, but you need to stop giving excuses and look for solutions (said in love from a person in almost the same spot).

DUSTBUSTER!!!! Buy it, LOVE IT!! Get the big one and even the kids can use it to clean up their own messes.

Doorknob covers or hook latches to keep the kids out of the office.

www.Flylady.net She has tons of ideas for cleaning with kids that are really helpful, and she is a HUGE advocate of decluttering.
yeah I know

yeah I agree that little vacs are handy (I have a few)....I just want a good one that does not stink like dust or dump dust out all over

the office actually does not have a door knob because it broke......so I plan to look into locking knobs for it...so that may fix that prob....thanks for that idea, I did not think about the covers

yeah flylady rocks


thanks
post #38 of 38
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yeah I agree that little vacs are handy (I have a few)....I just want a good one that does not stink like dust or dump dust out all over



thanks

My dustbuster thing has a cloth filter on it. I wash it with dish soap about 1x a month, and sometimes put some EO on it.
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