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post #21 of 27
zombie, I urge you to be sure you approaching parenting/discipline with your son from the standpoint of parenting a hurt child. You adopted him at 2 years old, whereas you adopted your daughter as an infant less than one.

His paradigm and the way he sees the world, having at minimum lost the caretaker of his babyhood, is totally, totally different from your daughter's, mine, (I'm assuming) yours and the vast majority of other children represented on this board.

Asking on the foster/adoption board is a great idea. I also highly recommend Parenting the Hurt Child.

At the heart, parenting as we know it is founded on *attachment*. This little boy does not have an attachment with you. This can come, over time, but all children will develop it differently and at their own pace. It's important to look at the starting point of your unattached relationship and operate with that as your new normal. I really cannot stress this enough. In lieu of attachment, for now, he needs as a substitute and/or foundation: unconditional support, unconditional nurture and unconditional commitment.

Consider the needs of your son, emotionally, as you would a newborn. When newborns are 'ugly', when they frustrate us, when they scream in our ears, we hold them closer to us. We nurture them. He needs this to build the attachment with you, even though he looks like an older child that "ought to get it by now."

Older children who have been neglected or lost their primary caretaker often respond really well to the same sensory things that calm newborns: warmth, movement/rocking/swinging, soft sounds and white noise. Because he's older, you can give him these experiences is unconventional ways like wrapping up together in a towel warm out of the dryer or swinging in a hammock etc.

For the hitting, I really don't think TO is going to help. I'd suggest first and foremost ramping up the supervision to set him up for success, so he won't have a chance to beat his sister (they're incredibly young, both of them.) When his behavior gets to the out-of-control point, rather than isolate him (or berate him), try a time-in approach with extra connection to you rather than less. He may respond really well to riding on your back in a Mei Tai.

Congrats on this new placement and good luck on this new journey. I'm very happy for your whole family that he has joined you.
post #22 of 27
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Thanks for all the great advice! I read about 10 attachment books last year while we were waiting for a placement. So, when we found out we were getting Javon (our son) we were prepared for it to be hell for months. However, it was hard but not nearly as bad as expected. He has done phenomenally. My husband was unemployed for the first month and a half and we spent 24-7 with Javon doing all sorts of things to help attachment. He attached really quickly, first to my husband then to me. Most of the problems we are having are actually about me. Since we got him at 2 and I've never had a boy or a 2 year old, I am clueless about discipline. My parents just spanked me when I was naughty. I've never even seen a family do time out discipline. We just jumped in trying to do timeouts in place of spanking (we never sent him out of the room to be by himself though as that might freak him out attachment wise). I have become more and more frustrated because it is not working and I feel like a nasty old meanie. My La Leche League leader gave me a book on Gentle Discipline last week. I didn't even know there was an alternative to timeouts or spanking. I am really hopeful that it will help me meet his needs better. I think most of his needs are normal little boy things like exercise and yelling and dirt. We are pretty on top of the adoption related stuff other that him attacking his sister.
It only happens about once every 2 weeks. He knows all about gently touches and is good when we are watching. He doesn't do it when he is angry either, which is odd. His last placement was with his brother who is only 3, but the size of a 6 year old, so maybe he got beat up by him sometimes. (Brother is already adopted or we would have him too) We live in a small apt and all the rooms open off the living room, so I am never more than 15 feet away from them even if they are in another room (doors always open).
It is good to hear that time outs do not work for other 2 year olds. I will be happy to give them up as they are a pain and I just get angrier and angrier trying to enforce them.
I think the best approach may be to just be more nurturing and give him more sunshine and exercise.
post #23 of 27
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I think the best approach may be to just be more nurturing and give him more sunshine and exercise.
You're awesome.

One more from me: Remember that he must be feeling angry (or frustrated or confused or lost etc.) How could he not with all his losses? When he makes you angry (frustrated/confused/lost), he's sharing with you a little piece of "this is how I feel inside." And he'll watch you to see how you deal with angry, so he can find a way to process his own.

Among all two year olds, yours so needs calm and self-control from you so he can find a way to be calm and controlled himself.
post #24 of 27
Hmm.. let's see if I have this right: two months ago, a two-year-old's world was turned upside down and now he's getting yelled at by a new adult in his life for acting his age? It sounds to me like he's not the one who needs a punishment. I know it's hard, but give him the love and time he needs to adjust to the situation (it may take a year or more) and, in the meantime, stay in control.

Good luck!

P.S. Love and Logic is a great resource! http://www.loveandlogic.com/
post #25 of 27
Don't leave them alone together. They are both to young to control themselves at this stage and will be for a long time to come.
post #26 of 27
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Hmm.. let's see if I have this right: two months ago, a two-year-old's world was turned upside down and now he's getting yelled at by a new adult in his life for acting his age? It sounds to me like he's not the one who needs a punishment. I know it's hard, but give him the love and time he needs to adjust to the situation (it may take a year or more) and, in the meantime, stay in control.

Good luck!

P.S. Love and Logic is a great resource! http://www.loveandlogic.com/
While I agree with your advice, I have to disagree that Love and Logic is a great resource for early childhood.

Zombie- You might want to consider reframing the name of this thread. I think that is sends a totally different message than what's actually taking place. He is hurting her, but he's expressing the hurt that he's feeling. Just my 2 cents.
post #27 of 27
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It sounds to me like he's not the one who needs a punishment.
This almost sounds like you're saying the OP needs a punishment -- which isn't exactly in-tune with Gentle Discipline, or constructive, since she came here for help.

OP, it sounds like you're on the right track!

This is interesting to me, as we may be looking into fostering in a couple of years.
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