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post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by DocsNemesis View Post
Yeah, I definately agree that regardless, its hypocritical. And I definately see a difference in wording as well-spewing facts about how it isnt necessary, but I use anesthesia so its not as bad, really isnt going to discourage nearly as many people (it would have still stopped me but only because I was seriously THAT clueless, lol). Saying no, you shouldnt do this, it isnt good, it's going to hurt regardless-we all know that even with effective anesthesia it hurts after the fact-there are risks, etc etc and not even saying "but I still do them...." would be VERY different.

My midwives use this way of talking to discourage parents and it works very well. Those who still want to do it, have to watch the circ video. If (BIG if) they STILL want it done, they are referred out. I dont think they tell them they wont do it just because they want them to listen and want them to be willing to watch the video. I highly doubt Dr. Sears is going that far-though we could be wrong-and obviously if the parents still want it done he says ok, I'll do it....perhaps being forced to find another doc to do it would hit it home for some or be too much effort? I dunno, but as I said, maybe his reasoning is that IF its going to be done, it should be done right. I think its flawed reasoning but again, as a doctor, I would rather see it done by myself than someone I didnt know and see some horribly botched job of it....I guess....gah I dont know, I'm not a doctor!!! lol
I feel like lots of doctors use this reason for still performing circumcisions. "If it's going to be done, I can do it so it's done right."

But for me, if you feel circumcisions are wrong and know they have no medical merit, the only way to truly keep them from happening on such a large scale is to stop performing them! If it's harder to find a doctor to perform it, that says volumes about the procedure itself.
post #42 of 49
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Originally Posted by DocsNemesis View Post
I do think its very two faced to say no, dont do this, and then do it himself. I would hope that at least he very much discourages his patients parents.

However, I could almost see wanting to do it yourself if the parents were determined. As the circ'er, he could be sure they are getting anesthesia, that its working well before its done, perhaps do a very *lose* circumcision....I dunno, I know I couldnt do it ever myself, but even I recommended a mohel to my friend because its so much faster and he did a very very lose circ (he doesnt even seperate the glans and the foreskin-he pulls the lose skin forward and cuts the excess off and tells parents not to pull it back until it will on its own...definately still a painful and unecessary surgery but at least its a little better I guess). She didnt listen and did the gomco crap in a doctors office with no pain meds. Ugh.

In any case, Id be interested in hearing more about why and how he does it from himself before completely hating him for it.
That is the way circ's were supposed to be done traditionally. When compared with the high and tight cut it all of circ, this sure seems less barbaric.
post #43 of 49
here's a link to the sears website that addresses circ:

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/1/t012000.asp

i think that's pretty obviously anti-circ, refutes common arguments, talks about benefits to not circ, etc...

but when i did a google search i did see a couple of pages where he is more middle of the road (aka 'either way your little boy will be fine'), not cool!
post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by aprilv View Post
i think that's pretty obviously anti-circ, refutes common arguments, talks about benefits to not circ, etc...
That's what confuses me so much about this quote (on page 2 of this post, from The Baby Book (2003, most recent edition)):

"A local anesthetic can and should always be used. Painless circumcision should be a birthright. I have used a local anesthesia in nearly a thousand babies over the past twenty years. It is a safe procedure and it works. Sometimes the anesthetic will not remove all the pain, but it certainly helps."

He prefaces that with this whole section on circumcision and how it's unnecessary, but he still performs it.
post #45 of 49
He seems very wishy washy, thats for sure...

And yeah, I told my friend about the old way bris was performed and that her mohel did it that way...I know we cant go into religious stuff on this forum, but lets just say she was using being Jewish as an excuse in the end-she admitted later she just thought intact penises are ugly (thanks lady, my son is intact )
post #46 of 49
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Originally Posted by Yulia_R View Post
If a doctor actually states that he refuses performing this surgery because it's harmful/mutilative, I STRONGLY believe that NO parent in right mind will go for it.
If, on the other hand, they were told there is no medical reason for it, it's unnecessary, blah blah, but I do perform them with adequate anesthesia, so your baby won't be in pain, I totally see some parents going for it.
ITA
post #47 of 49
I wonder if he does it "loose" or if he removes all the foreskin. Not that it matters b/c all circ is bad, but it would be interesting to know.
post #48 of 49
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Originally Posted by Yulia_R View Post
If a doctor actually states that he refuses performing this surgery because it's harmful/mutilative, I STRONGLY believe that NO parent in right mind will go for it.
Unfortunately one complaint about Alpharetta, GA's Dr. Kute on a board was that she went all ballistic over someone saying they were going to circ their son. Now did she really go ballistic or did she just surprise the parents by giving them a very strong opinion that they should not circ their son? I'd guess the latter. However, they just left the office, circ'd and went to another doctor for the next checkup.
post #49 of 49
Dr. Sears was a valuable resource for my husband and I when our first son was born in the early 90s. He was a respected physician who did not seem fanatical and his book was instrumental in us keeping our first boy intact (and the others followed suit). I was troubled by his more middle of the road stance recently. I can't locate my old copy of the book, but my recollection was he basically stated that routine circumcision had no validity and that the practice was probably on the way out. Lately he seems much more tame
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