The JULY Infertility One Thread - Page 5

[biomama]

blue, that's great that your DH's swimmers are normal! Did they tell you about the counts (million/ml) or the morphology?

GL getting all the diagnostic tests. I just went through a lot of them this cycle, including the HSG last week. I'm happy to answer (or try to) questions you have about the process!

How's everyone else doing?

[Tandy]

i am really hoping to ovulate well this month....

my doc recommended shots but i am just not ready for that yet (physically, emotionally and financially)....

so i am hoping that i can continue to work on this in a holistic way...

i am going to do some research about accupuncture in my area...i'll work more in the fall so maybe i'll start then...

i feel like time is just slipping through my fingers..

[hope4light]

blue - I'm glad to hear that everything came back normal. Here's to hoping that you guys figure out what is going on and why!

Tandy - Hang in there, you are in my thoughts and prayers... such a sucky road IF is....

[hope4light]

Quick update to my info:

hope4light TTC since March 2006 with MFI and slightly low progesterone. Currently TTC with IVF with ICSI, cycle 1 round 1 canceled due to hyper stimulation, cycle 1 round 2 antegon cycle canceled as ovulation started due to high e2 levels. Round 3 ER 7/9 and ET 7/12, beta 7/25.

[blueRhino]

Originally Posted by biomama

blue, that's great that your DH's swimmers are normal! Did they tell you about the counts (million/ml) or the morphology?

GL getting all the diagnostic tests. I just went through a lot of them this cycle, including the HSG last week. I'm happy to answer (or try to) questions you have about the process!

I didn't go to the appointment but dh says everything is normal. I am assuming they looked at all the counts that matter (although I know others have had issues with this...) because they seemed to have done quite a lot of tests including blood, urine, seman, prostate exam and ultrasound. It doesn't seem likely they would do all that and forget to check morphology!

However we are going to send all that info to the RE next month. I made the appointment today, finally. I feel anxious about it already. The place, as far as I can tell from their website, basically invented IVF. I am afraid they will be too aggressive for me and I will have trouble asserting myself, as I often do with doctors. IVF isn't even on the table though, ever, as it isn't covered (most everything else is) and we don't have 15,000. I really want to focus on diagnostic before we go any
further but am afraid they are going to want to jump straight ahead. It would be really really great to conceive this cycle so I don't even have to go to this appointment....

How's everyone else doing?

Yeah, how is everyone?

Hope, I hope this is your cycle!

Tandy I sympathize with your hesitation.

Everyone else?

[crystal-mommy]

Mini meltdown for me again today... yay!! Dr gave me samples of proxeed for hubby to drink. even tho his sa was normal, he said it would help "boost" fertility. Well, Dh is refusing to drink it... he says it smells like "jiz" and there is no way he is going to drink it!!! I even bought OJ and mixed it hoping it would cover some of the smell and taste. I tasted it, it really isn't the best, but anyone should be able to chug 4 oz of it!! I was so pissed... I can go thru all these procedures and take meds and get upset every month.. and he can't even drink the freakin juice??? WTF!!! Not really sure what he thinks Clomid is like... but it sucked!! The Proxeed will not have any side effects, will actually help his overall health too. He said "if its going to happen... it will happen on its own!" Well, I did things his way for 3 yrs... no fertility meds or medical intervention. That got me diddly squat.. except 3 yrs older!! This is so frustrating!! :


Also, I just found out my friend that draws my blood @ work isn't working on thurs when I need my progesterone drawn... so one of the other girls is going to have to draw it... I am such a hard stick (and a big baby about it!! )

[Tandy]

Originally Posted by crystal-mommy

Well, Dh is refusing to drink it... he says it smells like "jiz" and there is no way he is going to drink it!!!

omg!! i am amazed at men sometimes...

i keep asking my husband if he really wants a child he talks so little about this elephant in the room!!!

he kinda rolls his eyes and says "yes"...

i am going through all this shit and he seems to just sit back and wait...

maybe i am a little jealous...

[poetgirl]

Originally Posted by Tandy

i feel like time is just slipping through my fingers..

Tandy. Me too. A LOT, lately. I turn 35 in Oct. and as I wanted to have two or three kids, well, it's just slipping away.

I haven't updated here in a while because I'm been really down. At our IUI this month, my DH's super-excellent sample was wiped out due to a common infection or the antibiotics he had to take, neither of which was supposed to effect fert. So now it appears we are also dealing with m/f for some months to come at least. The utterly crappy thing is that we are in the process of relocating from CA to MI for DH to do a PhD fellowship, but our house hasn't sold, so he leaves Aug. 10 and I stay. I was going to bank swimmers and keep going but now I can't. It's been a really hard week and evidence yet again that I just can't control this.

Crys-mom, Forgive if this is off the wall, but perhaps buy your dh his fave spirit and pour a shot and tell him to throw back the proxeed and then chase it with the shot? (maybe that's not the healthiest idea) Could bring him back to his teen days and get what you want. Sorry, I know that's frustrating. p.s What's proxeed?

Blue, It's great you ruled out m/f and that you are very in touch with your reservations about the RE. I hope you don't have to go either, but knowing where you stand will help you cope when you're there. For the record, I wasn't looking forward either to that step, but I actually found it sort of clarifying.

Hope4Light, I'm praying for you sister! :::
You've been through a lot.

Weasley mum, Again, I'm so sorry. Thinking of you and sending you lots of .

***My acup. raised a new idea with me yesterday. She says my heart energy is often low and what can happen when you are so fixated on fert. and preg. (understandably at this stage) it can "burn up" that core heart energy and leave little left for actually getting preg. In TCM the heart governs the uterus. Hmmm, I've always despised the don't think about it/give up/relax thing, which she said she was not trying to dish out, but somehow this explanation has shifted something slightly in me. WDYT?

[biomama]

poetgirl, that situation is so frustrating. It sucks that so much is out of your control. I hope things start getting easier soon. We are here for you! I don't know anything about TCM, but I do see the value in "letting go" a little bit. I'm not always sure how to do that, but I think obsessing and trying to plan/control everything is counterproductive. I am as guilty of trying to do that as anyone though.

crystal-mommy, did you see my rant earlier about DH's stupid underwear? I was almost happy to see your post because your feelings were so similar to mine! I know it's hard, and DHs can be so stubborn and seem like they don't understand what we are going through... And here comes the whole giving up control thing again. We can't control what our DHs do, or what our bodies are doing. And you can drive yourself crazy trying, right?

Tandy, ditto! Seems this is a common theme lately.

blueRhino, I agree with poetgirl. Seeing the RE can be calming, reassuring, and in a way it takes the control away from you even more. But into the hands of a professional who is hopefully a caring and understanding person. I've been to 2 REs and one is the best and one is just kind of a factory and very blunt. His nurse told me to call when I get my period to come in for more testing, and I think you should never say when to an IF patient, always if you get your period. So I hope you have a good RE and s/he makes you feel at ease.

hope4light, GL! I am so nervous and excited for all of you on the IVF threads, I read them daily and sometimes wish I could post there .

As for me, I ended up not going to the RESOLVE meeting last night. A few things came up, including finding out my newly pg friend's fetus died. She is waiting for the m/c. It's pretty upsetting, and she is already baseline a bit depressed. She's the one I was about to tell about our IF struggles, but she told me that she was pg so I couldn't really say it after that. Now I don't know if the timing to tell her is worse or better. Obviously I'd wait a while anyway... she has to heal.

[barose]

biomama - for your friend

poetgirl - I'm not into the "just relax" thing either, especially when its coming from friends who know nothing about infertility, but for me, I think some of it holds water. Stress causes me to gain weight, lose sleep, or sleep too much, eat too much or too little so it would be crazy to think that it doesn’t affect fertility in some way.

crystal-mommy - No matter how many times I've been stuck, I still sweat in my chair when having my blood drawn.

I would kindly remind your DH about all of the crap we have to go though: needles (in the office and with injectables), vaginal ultrasounds, pelvic exams, taking drugs that turns us into monsters, and so on. I think he can survive one nasty drink. :

jjawm - I hope that was really a BFP.

Everyone else - I haven’t forgotten about you!

Me - I called my ND yesterday (instead of my OB) to see what she recommends to start my period because that horrible Provera my OB gave me. ND called in an Rx for Prometreium which is much gentler for the mind and body. I've taken it years ago and totally forgot all about it! Of course the $50 co-payment because it doesn’t come in generic form pissed me off. Why is everything that is more natural and/or better for you always cost so much more.

I started taking it last night and between that and the 5-HTP that I'm taking, I'm a walking zombie!

[biomama]

Originally Posted by barose

Me - I called my ND yesterday (instead of my OB) to see what she recommends to start my period because that horrible Provera my OB gave me. ND called in an Rx for Prometreium which is much gentler for the mind and body. I've taken it years ago and totally forgot all about it! Of course the $50 co-payment because it doesn’t come in generic form pissed me off. Why is everything that is more natural and/or better for you always cost so much more.

I started taking it last night and between that and the 5-HTP that I'm taking, I'm a walking zombie!

Barose, All these meds take such a toll on us, don't they? I'm glad you got the better option, though I'm sorry it's more expensive. We've been keeping track of health related costs (almost all IF related) since we may reach the 7.5% mark and be able to deduct some of it from our taxes. It's amazing how much money we spend on this stuff, isn't it?

I hope you feel better soon.

[hope4light]

biomama - that really sucks, I hope she hangs in there....

barose - hang in there, only, what, 10 days of the prometrium? It'll be over before you know it!! (gosh, if we all had a nickle for each time we said that in these threads, we'd all be rich!)

poetgirl - and of course in the midst of all this happening, you'll end up having to find that new RE. May the one you find be better, wiser, and smarter than the last. May he/she quickly make you that one thing that will make your life whole!

Tandy - I agree about the jealous part... I've thought that to myself, just recently. On the other hand, I know how much dh blames himself for putting us in this situation, and then I remind myself that we are just dealing with the same issue, but different aspects of it, and probably in completely different ways. But you're right, it is the elephant in the room that you can't stop staring at, but you sometimes pretend isn't there... and would just LOVE to move it out the front door, if only the DA** THING FIT!

crystal mommy - I agree, maybe try to get him to hit it up with a chaser of some type... I can't believe that he can't do that one little thing for you, I mean, come on, he's a guy, they all eat or drink something absurdly disgusting when they're kids, why not now?!
bluerhino I'm hoping that you won't need that appt, but at least it might help you to figure out what and why... hang in there.

Big to everyone!!

[barose]

Originally Posted by biomama

Barose, All these meds take such a toll on us, don't they? I'm glad you got the better option, though I'm sorry it's more expensive. We've been keeping track of health related costs (almost all IF related) since we may reach the 7.5% mark and be able to deduct some of it from our taxes. It's amazing how much money we spend on this stuff, isn't it?

I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks mama! I know part of it is my insurance itself. I work for a smaller firm now vs. the larger F500 companies I worked for in the past where the benefits were soooo much better. Before, it covered all of my meds and all I needed was the standard small co-payment. At least my insurance covers my ND, so I'm very thankful about that!

Originally Posted by hope4light

barose - hang in there, only, what, 10 days of the prometrium? It'll be over before you know it!! (gosh, if we all had a nickle for each time we said that in these threads, we'd all be rich!)

Its seven days in my case this time: 2 taken and night and 1 taken in the morning.

[crystal-mommy]

LMAO!! I actually told my DH i was going to buy his favorite beer and he could drink it after the proxeed!!

PoetgirlProxeed is just a bunch of vitamins and minerals that are supposed to help men w/ fertility issues. The dr gave me a bunch of free samples, this stuff is extremely expensive!! But no... DH can't do it, he is worse than a child sometimes!!

He has never been real excited about having another child... but once the baby gets here I know he will do fine w/ it. He is a wonderful dad to DD, and he wasn't real excited @ the beginning of my preg. My philosophy of why he is like this is that his brother became a dad @ a really young age and has always felt 'trapped' by fatherhood-his 2nd child was a "save the marriage" child, which of course never works really well! So, having a baby has never really been a good thing in his family.


Anyway, getting my progesterone done tomorrow. I can't believe I am 7dpo already... and haven't POAS!!! I am so proud of myself for that! it helps tht I had DH hide my tests last month... so i have no idea where they are!

[EastbayK]

Updated to here!

Sorry I've been a slacker this week. We've had bad news on several fronts to deal with and Kidzilla came home after 5 weeks away.

Saw my RE today and talked laprascopy vs straight to IVF. I'm going with the laprascopy b/c I still feel like it's a structural issue with us and not just a random sperm can't meet egg thing. We concieved twice before with no problems, why would it suddenly not work? So I'm on hold for 19 days until surgery on Aug 5. I've got a script for BCP's, but DH is egging me too just avoid sex this month and take a break from the hormones for a bit. I'll decide today...

Mara I'm so sad to have to welcome you back to the group. We love having you here, but not under the circumstances of you not being able to stay PG. Any new ideas on why from the DR?

Stay strong everyone- somehow we'll all get through this!

kim

[biomama]

how is everyone doing?

kim, you are a wonder woman for doing what you do! You're not a slacker What did you decide to do re BCP? GL in the lap. Keep us posted.

crystal-mommy, was your prog okay? that's a really interesting perspective on your dh. I wonder if mine had similar reactions - his dad became a father very very young, before he was ready. I think it may be why he wanted to wait to have kids, while I was ready years ago.

I got my prog on 6dpo and it was high enough (34) yay! so now I just have to keep waiting.

have a good weekend everyone!

[crystal-mommy]

Originally Posted by biomama

how is everyone doing?

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crystal-mommy, was your prog okay? that's a really interesting perspective on your dh. I wonder if mine had similar reactions - his dad became a father very very young, before he was ready. I think it may be why he wanted to wait to have kids, while I was ready years ago.

I got my prog on 6dpo and it was high enough (34) yay! so now I just have to keep waiting.

have a good weekend everyone!

My progesterone was 19... Dr says anything over 15 is good. Now, i just have to wait it out. (easier said than done!!) Dr. said that actually the lower number is better than last months 115... that is very abnormal. (can't really afford to be preg w/ quads or quints!!).

If I am not preg this month, going to have exp lap @ the end of the month. uck! really don't want to have ot do that. Anesthesia makes me puke for hours!!

No preg or pre-af symptoms so far... really surprised cause my BB's aren't sore this month, usually by now they are. Had some really bad cramping earlier today, hoping it was "something" burrowing in for 9 months!! Oh well, 3 more days... then I am getting a beta!

[biomama]

yay crystal mommy! Glad your prog was good. My RE told me for a non-med cycle, above 10 is good, and for clomid, above 15. They also said not to read too much into the numbers since it can fluctuate during the day quite a bit, and they are just getting a snapshot.

my temp went down today, so now I'm worried I'm having the shortest LP ever. I'm only 9dpo! and it's down at the coverline :

[crystal-mommy]

biomama maybe that is an implantation dip

AAM I want to poas really really bad!! trying to hold off till @ least tomorrow!!

[barose]

biomama - I hope thats an implantation dip!

crystal-mommy - Keeping my fingers crossed!

EastbayK -

After 65 days, I'm on CD 2 and off the Prometrium! Now I can start my next steps.