"Required" to be part of vaccine registry? - Page 3

[lovingmommyhood]

The person I had to write to to opt out was listed as the:

Immunization Surveillance Coordinator

CREEPY!!

[Fyrestorm]

Originally Posted by lovingmommyhood

The person I had to write to to opt out was listed as the:

Immunization Surveillance Coordinator

CREEPY!!

Big brother is watching!

[Lizzie9984]

I live in FL, thanks for linking that. I had NO idea that even existed, OMG. Why is it any other member of society does something here without someone's knowledge & it's a crime, but the goverment can get away with it? For the greater good of mass health my fat lily white behind :

[loveskilts]

[QUOTE]
Can anyone with superior skills find out if there's an opt-out for PA? The database is PA-SIIS. This is freaky stuff.[/QUOTE]


PA-SIIS info first, other links to info on all states farther down in post


Seems like no opt out provision in PA-SIIS as of 2005
(see CDC link on all states below for details... couldn't find much of anything on PA-SIIS)

How are patient and immunization records created in the PA-SIIS?

http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/he...0in%20PA-SIIS?[/

Pennsylvania birth records are electronically imported into the PA-SIIS on a weekly basis. Patient records are currently created in the PA-SIIS for all Pennsylvania births from 1996 to date.

For patients born in Pennsylvania prior to 1996, providers create the patient record.

For all patients born outside of Pennsylvania, providers create the patient record.

this bit was particularly irksome... can they actually have an exemption provision in state law that some school official can nullify? how absurd.

http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/he...ure_manual.pdf

School Procedure Manual
Statements of religious or strong moral or ethical conviction opposing immunization must be submitted in writing and signed by the parent, guardian or emancipated child. A space on the Certificate of Immunization is provided for this purpose. This exemption does not need to be renewed yearly. School officials must use their discretion in accepting the statements of exemption. The reason(s) for exemption must be reasonable as judged by the school official. In difficult cases, State Health Department representatives are available to consult with school personnel as to the intent of the exemption regulations, but the final decision is up to the school official. School officials should consult with their own legal council prior to a final decision regarding a questionable exemption.
links to information on all states:

CDC
Survey of State Immunization Information System Legislation
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs...cy/legsurv.htm

1 - Does state have a law authorizing immunization information system (IIS)?
(YES or no)
2 - If state has law authorizing IIS, does it mandate reporting?
(YES, no, or not applicable (n/a))
3 - Does state have a law addressing sharing of immunization information?
(YES or no)
4 - Does state have a law addressing sharing of healthcare information?
(YES or no)
5 - Type of consent: required (R), implied (I), or not yet addressed (NYA)
6 - If implied consent, are there provisions to opt out or limit access?
(YES, no, NYA, or n/a)
7 - Is notice given of inclusion in the IIS?
(YES, no, or NYA)

Answers to questions 1 - 7, state by state...

Alabama YES no no no I no no
Alaska no n/a no no NYA NYA NYA
Arizona YES YES no no I YES YES
Arkansas YES YES no no I no no
California YES no no no R-verbal n/a YES
Colorado YES no no no I no no
Conn. YES YES no no I YES YES
Delaware YES-(rule) YES no no I no no
D.C. no n/a no no I no no
Florida YES no no no I YES YES
Georgia YES YES no no I YES YES
Hawaii no n/a no no NYA n/a NYA
Idaho YES no no no R-written n/a YES
Illinois no n/a no no R-written n/a YES
Indiana YES no no no I YES YES
Iowa no n/a YES no I YES YES
Kansas no n/a YES no R-written n/a YES
Kentucky no n/a no no I YES YES
Louisiana YES no no no I YES YES
Maine YES YES no no I YES YES
Maryland YES YES-public providers only no no I YES YES
Mass. no n/a no no R-written n/a YES
Michigan YES YES no no I YES YES
Minnesota no n/a YES no I YES YES
Mississippi YES YES no no I no no
Missouri no n/a YES no I no no
Montana no n/a no YES I YES YES
Nebraska no n/a YES no I YES YES
Nevada no n/a no no I YES no
N Hamp. YES no no no I YES YES
N Jersey YES no no no I YES YES
N Mexico YES no no no I YES YES
N York YES no no no R-written n/a YES
No Carolina no n/a YES no I no YES
No Dakota no n/a YES no I no YES
Ohio no n/a no no I YES YES
Oklahoma no n/a no no I YES no
Oregon YES no no no I YES YES
Penn. no n/a no no l no no
Rhode Is. YES no no no I YES YES
So Carolina no n/a no no I no no
So Dakota no n/a YES no I YES YES
Tennessee YES YES-public providers only no no I YES YES
Texas YES YES no no R-written n/a YES
Utah YES-(rule) no YES no l YES YES
Vermont YES YES-to DOH no no I no NYA
Virginia no n/a YES no R-written n/a YES
Washington no n/a no YES I YES YES
W Virginia YES-(rule) YES-(rule) no no I no no
Wisconsin no n/a YES no I YES YES
Wyoming no n/a no no NYA NYA NYA

AIRA’s Registry Profiles
http://www.immregistries.org/public....gs/regMain.php

Links to Exemption Forms and Information by State
http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

State Exemptions - Recommendations vs. Laws
http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

[fotomama]

I'm going to sound like a broken record on these boards but....


This whole "opt-out" thing sounds somewhat like the Do Not Call list that got so popular and had people calling and giving their phone numbers to one specific list in droves. (By droves, I do mean the FTC offical number - 145 million.) THe logic makes no sense to me: Please do not call me. Here is my name and telephone number. ????

I just don't think even the most well-behaved government employees are actually getting calls/even "official forms" from people who want to opt-out of the registry, taking the unvaccinated child's name and birthday, and simply removing them from the state or federal government master lists. Sorry, but nfw, it's not happening.

I'm sure what's really happening is that the child has already been added (after parents get it an ssn (live birth registry is a little different, but necessary evil for getting an ssn in the 1st place). All hospital births will automatically ensure that your child gets onto this list by registering the birthand applying for an SSN for you.

Then, for now I'm sure, it's simply a matter of documenting "who has what?" (Whatever genetic information they find during heel prick goes there. Information about your health is surely linked to your child's information.) They are most assuredly adding your child's name, keeping your child's name and number on the list, and making a note - perhaps not to call and bother you with "registering" - but also to keep an eye on you. The poster who mentioned concentration camps probably isn't far off. I ask how an SSN is different from tattooing a number on a persecuted Jews arm? Oh, right. We voluntarily sign up for our numbers. Forgot.

All of it is coming to a head. I think we're all aware of that. Protect yourself, your children and your future children, by researching how to get out of the system or not get into it in the first place. UCC-1 Redemption Process is a good place to start. For those of you thinking about moving or not moving here b/c of Big Brother:

Where are you thinking about going?

[DesireeH]

I have a similiar situation to Tina. My oldest has been to a ped when he was little. I didnt sign anything but I got notices (he went twice in his life to Dr and once to ER) saying he needed shots in the mail so I am betting he's on the list. He's was also born in a hospital.

My daughter was born at home and is over 2.5 years old and has never been to a doctor and I get nothing. So I'm thinking she's not on it.

[Fyrestorm]

Fortnately, when DD was born after a horrible transfer to the hospital, I refused to sign everything except the opt out for the vaccine registry. I wouldn't even allow them to do her birth certificate or SS number.

CT seems to be pretty good about the opt out. DD has only been to a allopathic DR. once and I have NEVER gotten anything from anyone about vaccinations.

[aeneva]

PA registry

I talked with our doc and he said that the PA one is voluntary for the docs to enter information and that you aren't entered until your doc gives your child that first vax. Since my first was going to a doc who did participate and he got some vaxes before I got smart about it then he is on the list and my current doc is checking to see if I can get him off. My second was not vaxed, but ddid see the same doc at first so I am not sure if she is on there or not.

[peainthepod]

I know this thread is old but how's this for creepy? After our homebirth, we had the midwife put on Felix's birth certificate that we would not be registering him for a SSN. We wanted to keep him out of the system and let him choose to enter it by himself if he so chose.

Guess what came in the mail two weeks ago? His brand new shiny SSN card! The midwife swears she didn't incorrectly submit the information. We opted out and they gave him one anyway.

Bad news all around.

[spero]

FTR, in NYS you go in the registry whether you are vaxing or not. And it's no longer optional.

I hate my home state more and more every day.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by spero

FTR, in NYS you go in the registry whether you are vaxing or not. And it's no longer optional.

I hate my home state more and more every day.

I live in Southern CT...about 10 miles from the NY border...No way im ever moving to NY!!!!

[annjo]

Pennsylvania currently has a registry. There was no "check box". I think you are automatically enrolled. However, because our doctor does not disclose this information (the registry is currently voluntary), we were contacted personally. I opted to not disclose as well. Not sure if there is any plan to make the reporting mandatory but I wouldn't be surprised.

[loveyourohana]

Thought this Mothering post would be useful

Its opt out info. for every state.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=953402

[spero]

Originally Posted by loveyourohana

Thought this Mothering post would be useful

Its opt out info. for every state.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=953402

That's exemption information for each state in the US, not vaccine registry.

[Haydee]

Originally Posted by loveyourohana

Thought this Mothering post would be useful

Its opt out info. for every state.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=953402

That's info on exemptions which can be used for school/daycare, not opt-out info for these registries. I can only speak for NYS because I live here, there is no way to opt out of the registry. :

[Full Heart]

Anyone have any info on how to opt out for AZ? They apparently have a opt out here but I have yet to find it.

[loveyourohana]

Opt out info was on there for my state along with exemption stuff... I will pull the page up again when I get on the comp. Maybe I gav e the wrong link. Ok... sorry they had the opt out info. for UT and Wyoming, and possibly a couple of other states... I just wrote the lady in charge of ours...

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by Haydee

That's info on exemptions which can be used for school/daycare, not opt-out info for these registries. I can only speak for NYS because I live here, there is no way to opt out of the registry. :

:
That's why you and Pete need to move to Oregon.

ETA: Bring Alle and Andy too.

[MG01]

Many states seem to make it very difficult- the info on the registry for my state does not mention opting out directly nor provide a form- in many cases, it seems you have to 1) know the registry exists, 2) know you can opt out, and 3) contact someone to inquire about it and receive instructions and forms personally. That said, I found a lot of really good info on this site- it shows each state, and you can click your state and it has a big list of forms and information regarding opting out of the registries, as well as other forms and options for hospital births, enrolling in school, etc. It is www.vaccinetruth.net

[luv-my-boys]

Originally Posted by CanidFL

When you get your childs ssn. That's how DS got on the registry.

Um, I think it varies by state. I've lived in a few states and Im also a nurse and it depends on the state's health dept. Some children are entered into the system when they first get a vacc (that is sometimes as a newborn in hosp) and then each time the serial # of the vacc. is sent to state via that child's info. (in case there is a bad batch in some states the parent must consent each and every time when protected health information (HIPPA) is sent to a third party otherwise they dr cant send the info to the big brother registries its usually a line next to the side effects disclosure. Personally I opt out but thats because they will always show delayed or behind (we are military and move a lot) and they are never able to transfer the few previous vacs we have anyways. I just keep the records myself.