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post #1 of 15
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i took my just turned two year old to the pool today. as soon as she started walking in the water, which is zero depth entry and quickly she was up to between her waist and her chest, a three+ year old spotted her and started making his way over toward her. the other mom saw this and started telling him to be careful, but he proceded to grab my DD by the leg and pull her leg out from under her.

i always stay within arms reach at the pool and i take it pretty seriously that she doesn't go under and inhale a bunch of water. so the other mom is all calmly explaining to her son that my daughter "doesn't want to play yet because she just got here." and i'm thinking this gives the impression that she will want to play this way later, which she obviously cannot, she cannot hold her own in the water at all. meanwhile i am now holding her up to keep her from going under while this boy still has her by the leg.

so i look right at him and say "don't pull her by the leg." i did not yell, i did not touch him. he let go.

he went on his way and the mom comes back to tell me, "i was handling that, you didn't need to discipline my son, i was there to intervene." i pointed out that i did not discipline her son, i would never touch him, and when someone has my daughter by the leg in the water, i *have* to say something.

eventually, i think she understood where i was coming from but the interaction with the other mom was uncomfortable. i would not have been as quick to speak to her son at all if it had happened on dry land, but we all know how dangerous pools can be, and i don't think i was out of line at all to request her son take his hands off her leg.

i teach my daughter not to touch other kids. for example, she's very interested in babies, and i tell her she can look but not to touch. i'm all for gentle discipline, but i think the parent should also be teaching the child to respect other people's bodies and safety (as well as their possessions).

what do you all think?
post #2 of 15
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
i would not have been as quick to speak to her son at all if it had happened on dry land, but we all know how dangerous pools can be, and i don't think i was out of line at all to request her son take his hands off her leg.
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what do you all think?
You are never out of line by asserting your own personal boundaries (or in this case your young daughter's.) That's not disciplining the boy, that's insisting he not pull on her. You didn't say "you shouldn't ever blah, blah" you said "don't touch her" which is always appropriate.

I think you set a very good example for your daughter, and I'm impressed that you successfully articulated your perspective to the confrontational other mom.
post #3 of 15
I'd have gone and puller HER leg!

I think you handled it great and it sounds like she has some boundary issues of her own to work on.
post #4 of 15
I think what you said was very appropriate and I would have handled the situation exactly as you did.
post #5 of 15
I think you handled it just fine.
post #6 of 15
I often speak to other children , in calm , clear, non-judgemental tones when they are harming my child, or causing general distress on the playground. I often do this when the other kids parent appears to be too distracted or apathetic or as in your case is undrereacting.

You did nothing wrong, and I think it is great you kindly set the other mother straight.

All children can stand to learn that they are interacting with the world around them in it's entirety, not just based on their parents rules but on rules that govern a society...

I mean I know I sound dramatic but really... haven't you ever had to ask another child to wait their turn... someone else, your child, is on the slide. It is in that catagory.

The only way I would have issue with someone speaking to my child would be if they were loud, harmful, physical or cruel. You were not according to your story.
post #7 of 15
I would have done the same thing as you. When my child is being affected, it is my business, especially if the other parent is not handeling it.
post #8 of 15
Gradysmom makes great points, and I agree.
Also, it's your job to protect your own child, no matter what- it sounds like the other mom was just not thinking it through. Surely she would step in to protect her own child if the situation were in reverse.
post #9 of 15
I would have done the same thing

I hope your dd wasn't scared by the interaction.

-Angela
post #10 of 15
You didn't do anything wrong. I'd have done the same as you. And if I'd been the other kid's mom, I'd have first made sure he let go of her leg, and then explained that you shouldn't grab other people in the pool, especially if they are littler than you, because it's not safe.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
meanwhile i am now holding her up to keep her from going under while this boy still has her by the leg.

so i look right at him and say "don't pull her by the leg." i did not yell, i did not touch him. he let go.
So, he was still holding her leg, and you told him, politely, to let go? How in the world would that not be ok?

She said she was handling it, but her ds was still holding on to your dd's leg. I think you were totally ok here. It's nice that she came to talk to you about it though. Maybe instead of fuming about it all day, she understood your point and was ok with it, yk?

I would definitely make sure my ds let go before I did any explaining to him.
post #12 of 15
The first thing she should have done was take her son's hands off your dd Then, she can handle it in whatever way she wants. You did the right thing.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
he went on his way and the mom comes back to tell me, "i was handling that, you didn't need to discipline my son, i was there to intervene." i pointed out that i did not discipline her son, i would never touch him, and when someone has my daughter by the leg in the water, i *have* to say something.
I agree that you did the right thing. But I am curious/troubled by your statement that you "didn't discipline her son, I would never touch him..." You don't mean to imply the discipline per se has to involve touching a child, do you? I discipline my children all the time -- and I rarely touch them when I do so (and if I do touch, that's exactly what I mean -- touching a shoulder to get attention, for example). Actually, you did discipline her child -- you explained/stated a boundary. I think I would have said, "I'm sorry, but I needed him to let go before you spoke to him." Maybe she didn't realize that your child was still off balance because you were holding her up.
post #14 of 15
Well, I'll be the naysayer here I guess. I think what you did was okay, but if it had been me, and the mom was obviously intervening (however ineffectively) I would have directed my comment to her and probably a little more aggressively than you spoke to the boy: "He needs to let go of her leg NOW please."

If the mom had moved away and was no longer intervening then I would probably speak to the child, as you did.

I'm so paranoid about water and kids that no child would get close enough to my child (who is 3) or vice versa (her getting close to another child) without me being right there. She should have been right next to him with other children in the pool if he is likely to approach the other children. That's how bad things happen - toddlers are way too young to possibly know what is safe in the water, and its fun to push and splash.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by Evan&Anna's_Mom View Post
I agree that you did the right thing. But I am curious/troubled by your statement that you "didn't discipline her son, I would never touch him..." You don't mean to imply the discipline per se has to involve touching a child, do you? I discipline my children all the time -- and I rarely touch them when I do so (and if I do touch, that's exactly what I mean -- touching a shoulder to get attention, for example). Actually, you did discipline her child -- you explained/stated a boundary. I think I would have said, "I'm sorry, but I needed him to let go before you spoke to him." Maybe she didn't realize that your child was still off balance because you were holding her up.
i sensed that the mom had some sensitivity about other people discipling her child (maybe this kind of scenario happens a lot with them)? and i wanted to reassure her that i wasn't involving myself in her situation with him, and i wanted to point out very blatently and for the record to her that i would never touch another person's child, in case she somehow thought that's where i was going with it.

the truth is, i was only involved in the situation to the point that i wanted to extracate (sp?) my daughter from his grasp in the water. which i think is pretty reasonable. i don't know these people, and out of nowhere, the son came up to my daughter and grabbed her leg in the water. to me, that's not so reasonable.

if telling him to let go is discipling (sp?) her child, then ok, i guess i used the wrong word and i did discipline him. whatever, which word is really splitting hairs. but the point is, why did i have to be the one to tell him to let go, while his mom is all pussyfooting around with completely made up reasoning for him that my daughter "isn't ready to play yet because she just got here at the pool."

i think it's fine and admirable to be gentle with your own child, but certainly not at the expense of other innocent people, right?
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