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post #21 of 305
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I think you need to re-challenge the ped on that and talk to the supervisor again. I would assume you have all rights, unless your baby is in immediate life threatening danger.

I'd suggest you stay calm, but be firm about the fact you want your daughter discharged that day. I would call the procurator in advance and tell him/her that you want him/her to assist with the discharge of your daughter at he time of your meeting, and to get the ball rolling now. If you get any pushback then yes, get that lawyer right away, maybe make a preliminary phone call to that lawyer to he/she is familiar with your situation and can give the procurator pressure if they are not cooperative.

Good luck!
I plan to be at her door when they open. If they can't/won't help me, I plan on retaining the lawyer that my chiro recommended.

You know, everyone that I have told this odyssey to have all told me the same thing "but people back in the day (gma, ggma, etc) gave birth at home and nobody died. What's the big deal? They just wanted to take your money".
post #22 of 305
I am so sorry. I would be calling a lawyer now! In the middle of the night. I would skip over the entire hopital.

Best wishes to you and I hope this nightmare ends soon. I wont say any more as it makes me angry beyond anything i can describe right now.
keep us posted

(((hugs)))
post #23 of 305
I have never heard of any more insane interference than that. I hope you get your sweet little baby back soon.
post #24 of 305
They "cleaned" her stomach? Oh God, that makes me want to vomit. I don't understand how all this happened. It is absolutely terrifying. I could not imagine having my baby taken away, poked and prodded, forced "medicine" that was not needed, stomach cleaning?!?!

Oh Mama, why did you get in the ambulance? Ya know...I ask that question and realize that it doesn't matter why...getting in the ambulance does not automatically give the hospital the right to do this stuff to your baby.

I hope you get a good lawyer and get this awful situation taken care of. Your baby needs you, and the two of you need to be home.

Unsterile environment my ass. WTF. I just canNOT understand some people.

I'm so sorry, Mama.
post #25 of 305
as a PSA, it is important to remember that there is no requirement (legal) to allow the police or paramedics into your home.

in such a situation, you simply tell them that everything is fine, and that you do not need their help. do not let them in.

and if you do let them in, you are not required to go to the hospital or anywhere with them.
post #26 of 305
OMG. I cannot believe this happened to you. You and that precious baby are in my heart and my thought.

And they are going to charge you for a forced admission and stay? I would say that you find out who called and send them the bill. I can understand their hearts were in the right place in their concern for your welfare. But maybe they should be the one that foots the bill for all this.
post #27 of 305
zoebird, what's a PSA?
post #28 of 305
Congratulations on your beautiful birth but sorry for all the trauma to you and your family. Wishing you a speedy resolution to all of this!
post #29 of 305
as far as I know in the usa you can take your baby AMA. i dont know about puerto rico though it is a usa territory right? I am so so sorry you are experiencing this awful set of events. my son was also in the nicu for 5 days unneccesarily and it was just wrenching. but he's fine now at almost 7 years old, he breastfed until age 5 and has always been ehalthy ever since the stupid hospital decided he needed antibiotics.
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post #31 of 305
PSA= public service announcement.

i'm so appaulled by what happened to this poor woman and her child, that the only thing that i could think to say is to remind anyone reading who is considering a UC to remember that they don't have to let police/ambulance into their homes, and even if they do, they do not have to go anywhere with them.

i'm too emotional to comment on anything but that practicality.
post #32 of 305
Holy shit! You need lots of outside help, mama. Go get your baby, with lawyers, church friends, business colleagues, paper carriers, pizza delivery folks, lots of big angry family members, local AP families!

GO!
post #33 of 305
Wow, I can't beleive that the Ped would say that. I would contact a lawyer. Have you signed consents for all the treatment they are giving her. If not, get a lawyer, and start threating to sue.
post #34 of 305
A non-sterile birth?? WHAT??

This is beyond words.

After this is all resolved, please make sure your nosy neighbours get told off properly. Then file complaints, lawsuits, whatever against the paramedics, doctors, hospital, etc.

Right now, I would go to the hospital, demand an explanation as to why your baby is there and take her home. I mean, take out the IV, pick her up and walk out. Bringing a lawyer might help.
post #35 of 305
So sorry this happened to you and your baby! Please keep us posted.
post #36 of 305
OH mama.

Stay strong and take care of yourself.
post #37 of 305
I don't think I would have gone with them. Did they threaten you or something?
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post #39 of 305
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If you plan on leaving AMA with the baby, I would have a retained lawyer with you when you do it. You know and I know and all the other mamas here know that your baby is fine and UC does not mean septic or unsterile; however, mainstream societies don't know that and they don't care and this absolutely smacks of unwarranted CPS involvement. And as we all know CPS is not the most rational of agencies to deal with. Please do not just walk out of that hospital with your baby, not without getting a lawyer in there with you. I have no doubt that hospital will call social services on you and you'll have a CPS agent baning down your door within the hour. Good luck mama.

oh and BTW, congratulations.:
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I agree with the pp about having a lawyer with you to get your baby. It seems there is such a stigma to birthing at home. I admire you alot mama and am soo sorry you are going through this at this time.
post #40 of 305
thats awfull. are they gonna keep all teh babies born in the back of a car, or a realy too fast to get to hospital deliver in for 5 days. think not.

i hope you get your baby back soon.

Kiz
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