I kicked a dog yesterday :( - Page 4

[SevenVeils]

Originally Posted by bigeyes

Maybe it's more appropriate for her to just know Mom will protect her now. In that case, I would totally be totin' the super soaker and big stick.

This is how I feel about it.

[North_Of_60]

Originally Posted by SevenVeils

This is how I feel about it.

Yes. I didn't mean to say you should arm a six year old.

[veronicalynne]

Originally Posted by LeahBoo

Okay, I recently bought something called a dog dazer. They cost around $30, and are easy to take with you. Basically, you push a button, it makes a loud ultrasonic noise that we can't hear, but dogs can and they hate it. I got it for my mom's dogs. They bark like mad at everything, and when my dogs are there, they can't behave (they're great at my house). So 6 dogs all going off at once everytime mailman comes or there's a cat in the yard. After I got it, I waited for the chaos that would certainly ensue. When it did, I pushed the button for a fraction of a second. Every dog in the room immediately stopped. Only needed it for a few days.

People use them when biking or walking, to stop dogs from attacking. Seeing what it does with my dogs, I have no doubt it would stop advancing dogs.

Your dog won't it like it much, but it doesn't hurt them, just annoys the crap out of them.

Dawn

Where would you buy a dog dazer?

[bigeyes]

Originally Posted by veronicalynne

Where would you buy a dog dazer?

I read the reviews on amazon and I'm not so sure it works.

[veronicalynne]

Originally Posted by bigeyes

I read the reviews on amazon and I'm not so sure it works.

Ok, if it doesn't work then what would be best if you think you might be in a situation like that? I am not arguing here at all.....I was walking with my dd1, toddler in stroller, and me with a huge stomach (pregnant), and a german sheppard ran up to us and was growling and acting aggressively but thankfully the owner ran out and controlled the dog before anything could happen. I dont feel comfortable with the idea of mace.....would the ammonia in a squirt gun as a pp mentioned be effective? I do understand from another pp that making physical contact with an aggessive dog is not the best option. And I doubt I would be that effective with a big stick.......

[bigeyes]

Ammonia around the nose and eyes of an animal that operates on smell? Would it work?

Yeah, it'll work.


I'd trust stinky ammonia in a super soaker a lot more than an electronic gizmo with a bunch of bad ratings.

Go take a tiny whiff out of a bottle if you don't believe me. It's awful to have to think of these things, but seriously, if you bicycle or walk in a neighborhood where someone doesn't control their dogs, it's them or you.

[lilyka]

You have no reason to feel bad. those dogs are lucky that all they got was a little kick. they were attacking your baby.

I have a small puppy (30 pounds) and if she had done that to you i would not have been suprised if you kicked her of. nor would I have been offended (she is a radom bolter and it is entirely excited spazzy puppy love energy but i know it can be really scary still. you don't know other people dogs.) It is my responsibility to kep my dog away from you and what every ou have to do to keep her off you is ok. If people don't want their dogs kicked they need to keep them under control at all times.

[SevenVeils]

Originally Posted by North_Of_60

Yes. I didn't mean to say you should arm a six year old.

Oh, okay. That was what I was responding to the whole time. Of course the adults should be armed, with whatever it takes.

[graceomalley]

Originally Posted by jlutgendorf

Seriously. A dog attacked your daughter. Why in the world would you feel bad about kicking it?

You need to report this incident to animal control and the police. Have your husband inform your neighbors that you've reported the ATTACK. On future walks I would carry pepper spray and/or a sturdy pipe (something that won't break if you have to haul off and beat a dog with it).

This isn't going to get better. The dogs see your daughter and probably your little dog as prey. What happens if your daughter is outside playing in your yard and these dogs come onto your property? They will go after her again.

If this had happened to us, at the very least Lady dog would be dead and Dog would be seriously injured. My partner has no tolerance for things that threaten his family.

You are clearly a strong woman. You fought off two dogs that were ATTACKING your family and you did it with one good kick and whole lot of being BAD-ASS. Do not let some hick neighbors intimidate you into dropping this incident. This was serious. It was life threatening to your family.



~Julia

Ditto to this.

Please report the attack to animal control AND the police. Document it in your diary. Take a video camera with you next time you go for a walk, so that you have proof if it happens again. And mace. Spray the dog if it comes near you.

[LeahBoo]

Originally Posted by veronicalynne

Where would you buy a dog dazer?

Anywhere, I got mine on amazon. Yeah, not all of the reviews are favorable, but think about it this way. If you find a product you love, you tell some people and get on with your life, if you find a product you don't like, you tell EVERYONE. You're more likely to get all of the negative reviews than the possitive.

I have found mine to work with every dog I have used it on. Haven't had the misfortune to run into a loose/potentially agressive dog while I have had it with me though.

[bigeyes]

Originally Posted by LeahBoo

Anywhere, I got mine on amazon. Yeah, not all of the reviews are favorable, but think about it this way. If you find a product you love, you tell some people and get on with your life, if you find a product you don't like, you tell EVERYONE. You're more likely to get all of the negative reviews than the possitive.

I have found mine to work with every dog I have used it on. Haven't had the misfortune to run into a loose/potentially agressive dog while I have had it with me though.

Maybe. I haven't seen that to be the case with Amazon, but who knows?

[LeahBoo]

It has 4 out of 5 stars on amazon. I don't consider that to be "bad reviews"

[bigeyes]

Ok. I just saw the first few that were bad I guess. It does seem to me that the people who are raving about it were using it on their own dogs for barking, and the people who were unhappy were using it on strange dogs for attacks, which might be important.

The actual words are more important than the stars, imo.

[LaLaLaLa]

When I was in high school, I ran cross-country, so I was out on strange roads a great deal. My dad often lent me his dog dazer (he was also a runner). He and I both found that it worked in keeping approaching dogs away--a short burst coupled with a loud "NO!" generally did the trick. Like anything, though, I'm sure there are some exceptions and maybe some dogs for whom aggression trumps discomfort. It's a good first line of defense, but it's probably also wise to have a back-up plan.

[bigeyes]

Originally Posted by LaLaLaLa

When I was in high school, I ran cross-country, so I was out on strange roads a great deal. My dad often lent me his dog dazer (he was also a runner). He and I both found that it worked in keeping approaching dogs away--a short burst coupled with a loud "NO!" generally did the trick. Like anything, though, I'm sure there are some exceptions and maybe some dogs for whom aggression trumps discomfort. It's a good first line of defense, but it's probably also wise to have a back-up plan.

Seriously. I'd probably be armed up like Rambo with the Dazer in one hand and the super soaker full of ammonia on my back.

Bring it, Bowser!

[mistify]

The dog is lucky to still be alive, if it where me I would have shot it (I have a carry permit). I have lived in VERY remote parts of the country(my nearest neighbors were 10 miles a way) and have learned not to be prey to an animal, whether it be wild, feral or just a plain mean pet. I have worked in veterinary medicine and love dogs but aggressive pets have no place in this world. I have always felt that way after having to put sweet dogs and cats to sleep after being attached by aggressive animals that live to continue killing other animals, and feel even more strongly since I had children. Report the dogs, don't let anyone belittle you for your concern for your children's safety, you did something very brave and now you have to foster your daughters courage and help her deal with her fear. My children are my world, I waited 40 years to have them and love them more than I can begin to say, so I will thank you for being a strong mother and standing up for your children.

[thekimballs]

I don't want to derail the thread, but it's good to remember that dog-to-dog or dog-to-cat aggression has NOTHING to do with dog-to-human aggression. Dog aggression is entirely appropriate and even encouraged in many breeds; dog-to-cat aggression is usually a function of prey drive and is very common and normal.

It's your job as an owner to make sure that your dog-aggressive or prey-driven dog doesn't kill other animals, but those dogs shouldn't be put down or even discriminated against.

[North_Of_60]

Originally Posted by bigeyes

Seriously. I'd probably be armed up like Rambo with the Dazer in one hand and the super soaker full of ammonia on my back.

Bring it, Bowser!

Ah, coffee up the nose.

[wombatclay]

Heyla all! Just an update...

Animal Control has a file on the two dogs now. The neighbors have been informed of this by both DH and myself. We learned that Dog and Lady Dog are a breeding pair, and that our neighbors make extra money selling the puppies (and Lady Dog is usually caged with puppies so doesn't have the "in home" socialization Dog gets). Both dogs are registered/have papers but here's a great example of wanting to meet the parents because these two do NOT fit my mental image of the "standard" boxer attitude.

Would vinegar or another really smelly liquid work as well as ammonia? Well, maybe not as well, but my concern is that I generally have the baby in the front pack and a toddler at my side and I wouldn't want them getting splashed with ammonia a mile or two from home/sink. It's very ironic that I always had a heavy walking stick with me in case of wild animals (I grew up rurally too) but that day I didn't because I couldn't figure out how to hold baby, toddler, dog, and stick and we'd never had a problem in the past. Sigh... spilt milk.

My current concern is still dd1's emotional recovery. We may not be able to keep Paco (who is the world's sweetest dog) since she has transfered a lot of her anxiety to him as well. She hides when she hears the neighbors dogs barking, she screams when Paco barks, it's been a week and I can't get her more than a few feet from the door, and things seem to be getting worse instead of better. I don't know... I think I'll start a new thread in Childhood since I really don't want to give her the idea that you can just "get rid of" a pet, but I also want her to feel safe/secure in her own home and right now having Paco in the living room isn't helping with that. What a mess.

But I wanted to thank everyone for the ideas and support again! I probably wouldn't have had the guts to file a report/make a stink about this without your help! So much thanks from me, dd1/dd2, and whichever hikers and campers will NOT have to deal with these dogs in the future.

[bigeyes]

I don't know if vinegar would have the same effect or not. I don't think it's got quite the same burning effect on the mucous membranes.

Any chance of enlisting an extra walking buddy?