More vaccines at one time=less assault on immune system?

[tab5]

We have a 6 month old who just received her first vaccination today-we are on a selective/delayed schedule. What we didn't expect was our doctor's response that it is harder on the immune system to give 1 or 2 vaccines at a time, wait a month and give 1 or 2 more. She said the body doesn't have time to recover from the last vaccine before giving another. She felt that many vaccines at once is less of an assault on the immune system if they are given 2 months apart(5 vaccines then wait 2 months and give 5 more etc). Any thoughts on this? We did not do this and went ahead with just giving 1 as planned. We will go back in 6 weeks.
Also, she said that we should treat our daughter as a newborn as far as not taking her out in public etc bc she is so far behind on the vaccinations. Do any of you delayed/selective/non vaxers take any special precautions? If we don't take her out she'll be a hermit until she's 5 which is obviously not an option. Please help! Thanks.

[spero]

Sounds like a load of scaremongering BS to me.

Non-vaxers certainly don't keep their kids in a bubble forever.

[MommytoHHH]

I don't think there is any scientific evidence to support her claim. If there is, I'd sure love to see it.

My DD is unvaccinated and we go all over the place - to LLL, playgroups, kindermusik, etc. She's actually only been sick once, knock on wood, with a virus that we both got in December. I don't see why you'd need to treat your DD as a newborn... what is she afraid of your DD catching? Are you afraid of that disease?

[JBaxter]

We will be very delaying this baby. He will recieve NONE till he is 2yrs old then the ones we do choose will be well spaced minimum 3 months apart He will not be kept in a bubble he will attend all his brothers sporting events go to play groups etc. IMO 6weeks is to close together for my child

[philia]

What a bunch of you know what

I would ask where there is written info on what she said about the vaccine safety. I think I would just say you like reading all the info you can on the subject or something. The Dr. did admit that the vaccines are an assault on the child's immune system. They are tring to scare you. I would look for a new Dr.
Philia

[JamesMama]

We don't vax at all and my dr has said NOTHING about keeping my kids shielded from the outside world...how silly...

As for the 'less assult' that doesn't sound right at all...

[alegna]

Total bs.

And by that thinking, wouldn't it be even BETTER to give them one at a time and wait 6 months or a year in between?

Neither of my kids are vaxed at all. We go in public and around other kids all the time. Not a single worry.

-Angela

[philia]

One more thing

I am not a vaxer and I do take some precautions but it would apply to anyone not wanting their kid to get sick. I don't like being around any child or adult with a congested type cough. I am always disgusted with hacking kids. I stay clear of indoor play gym type places because I don't think they ever get cleaned . I don't put my kids in shopping carts. I bring the stroller and pull a cart behind us. I don't do to the Dr. unless it is for a very good reason. I use a lot of hand sanitiser. I don't leave my kids in a church nursery.
I try to feed my kids healthy food to boost their immune system. I just hate taking care of sick kids. I do go everywhere but I use the precautions I listed.
Philia

[ripcurlgirl26]

That's BS. I'd ask for a source and maybe even "agree" with her, saying that they should be spaced out much longer than 6 weeks apart.

My boys are both unvaccinated and I've never thought twice about taking them anywhere. My dear, you've been scare-mongered.

[alegna]

Originally Posted by philia

I am not a vaxer and I do take some precautions but it would apply to anyone not wanting their kid to get sick. I don't like being around any child or adult with a congested type cough. I am always disgusted with hacking kids. I stay clear of indoor play gym type places because I don't think they ever get cleaned . I don't put my kids in shopping carts. I bring the stroller and pull a cart behind us. I don't do to the Dr. unless it is for a very good reason. I use a lot of hand sanitiser. I don't leave my kids in a church nursery.
I try to feed my kids healthy food to boost their immune system. I just hate taking care of sick kids. I do go everywhere but I use the precautions I listed.
Philia

Eh, getting sick builds immune systems. We go to all sorts of kids places, including indoor gyms. I put them in shopping carts when they can sit up (I do use a cover for the month or so that they lean forward and eat the handle... ) I NEVER use hand sanitizer on me or my kids. Ick. Nasty stuff.

-Angela

[ema-adama]

I would definitely ask her for her source on that, in a nice way without p*ssing her off... (I have heard this before from friends who are vaxing and I am sure it's wonky logic and has never actually been researched)
about baby being in public - WC can be nasty for a child under 6 months, but by 6 months LO has only had 2 of the shots, so isn't fully immunized anyway... at least that is my reasoning. But, if your child is being BF and you are maintaining good hygiene practices I would not be worrying about a child being in public - I don't (most of the time )
anyway, just me :

[VijayOwens]

What is your gut telling you? Other than extended breastfeeding, we don't take any special precautions for our unvaxed child. She's 3 now and has never even had an ear infection. I think she's had two colds and one tummy bug in her entire life.

Of course now that she's been diagnosed with autism, the pediatrician wants to vaccinate her (see? vaccines don't cause autism, they're perfectly safe!) but we're not changing our stance because that wasn't our reason for skipping the vaccines in the first place.

And our pediatrician before this one told us that she was autistic because we hadn't vaxed her. So trust me that doctors will tell you all kinds of weird stuff in addition to the truth, or they'll take the truth and just bend it slightly to suit their agenda. Sad but true.

Read as much as you can from both sides and then do what your heart tells you.

-Vijay

[nwmamas]

We're non-vaxers and have never worried about catching a VPD in public. And we haven't. It's the general kiddie crud that'll get you, not diptheria.

Besides, "treating your child like a newborn" doesn't mean she'll actually be as vulnerable to complications from VPDs as a newborn, so I'm not getting the logic. She won't be a 6 pound 5-year-old.

[Gitti]

I would call her up and ask her for any study or anything that supports the information she gave you. Because I believe she made it up. Totally. Nonsense imo. She is just trying to sell you all the vaccines before you get informed and refuse them all. The old sales trick!


And as for keeping the child isolated because she is not vaccinated, more nonsense. I have had two vaccines in my entire life at age 6 and 14. Neither of them are given now. Where would I be?

My grandparents/parents never got vaccinated.

My grandchildren are vaccine-free and I might add, they also don't need a doctor because they are so healthy. No abx ever. They are 2 and 4. Their mom took them EVERYWHERE from about the first 3 weeks on. Those kids have been to Europe several times. She never worries about them.

This doctor sure knows how to sell drugs for big pharma (her mentor and educator)!!! That is where he loyalty lies, not with healthy kids. They don't provide any bread and butter.

[CanidFL]

I was under the impression that giving 1 vax every month was too much. I read to space out 6 months between vaxes but that was so long ago when I was going to do a selective/delayed schedule.

I would not live in fear of your vax status. DS is 10 months and has been all over. He goes where I go including Disney, conferences, ER rooms, etc.

[Fyrestorm]

I call BS on the Ped!

I would definitely ask to see those studies!

DD has been everywhere without a single vaccine including Egypt as an infant...I was way more worried about water born stuff that there is no vaccine for than anything that there is one for...that and getting a resp. infection from the long flight trapped in a tin can with sniffeling coughing people!

[Turquesa]

: I'm with PPs on this one. Where docs are concerned, I learned long ago never to let a questionable claim go unsubstantiated. I would sweetly reply,"Wow! That's the first time I've heard that. Could you direct me to any studies on the matter?"

[spero]

Originally Posted by philia

I stay clear of indoor play gym type places because I don't think they ever get cleaned . I don't put my kids in shopping carts.

I use a lot of hand sanitiser. I don't leave my kids in a church nursery.

FWIW, some studies have shown that overuse of hand sanitizer actually makes you MORE susceptible to illness. HS is good to have in a pinch, but good old soap and water is still best for general cleansing.

And I completely agree with Angela on the germs. Kids need a certain amount of exposure to germs, in order to develop a healthy immune system - if they're never exposed to stuff then their bodies won't know how to react properly.

[GutInstinct]

Are you sure you want to entrust your son to such an ignorant doctor? He is human, after all, and clearly sounds like an idiot!

Trust your son's immune system. Keep it strong, and enjoy life!

[Just1More]

More vaccines at once never make sense. What would happen if your ds actually GOT diptheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, hep B, etc, etc. at once? I would submit that he would not fair well. That's far too much to deal with at once. Sooo...why would i inject all that AND more all at once to make it easier on the immune system. Especially if I was trying to induce the same immune response as if he had the actual disease. Not me. IF I were going to vax...and I'm not...I would give 1, and only 1 toxin, not even vax, mind you, and then support the immune system as if my child actually had the disease. THAT would be easier on the immune system, I'd guess. But that's just me. (understand I think the whole thing is silly...I was just trying to make a point.)

As far as staying in like a newborn...nope. We hardly even keep our newborns in. I do a few things to keep us a bit healthier...like we only eat good real food that remembers what it is. And I have to agree on the play gyms...not because I'm worried about any real disease...but I've been around when kids have peed in there...and NO ONE cleaned it up. That's just yucky to me. And we have a "don't touch anything" rule in public bathrooms. Other than that (and it's obvious I just think pee is gross), my kids do whatever. Even chew on the shopping cart... (yeah, yeah...I know the person before me probably went potty and didn't wash their hands...but at least I cant SEE it. How's that for inconsistency?) Point is, I'm not worried about it, and so far, so good.

I also NEVER use hand sanitizer. And we're not the best at washing our hands. My kids are still so little that I figure if their hand has already been in their mouth, what's the point of washing it? We'll get it in the bath sometime in the next few days. Really, dirts dirt. And my kiddos are ridiculously healthy as well. I think we NEED germs.