Dealing with Myself.....

[hope4light]

OK, so I had ET on Saturday the 12th, and I have my beta on 7/25. The RE told me that if I am pg, my ovaries will continue to be sore, as the HCG from the pg will tell my ovaries to keep working. Has anyone else heard this before?

So, anyways, he told me that if I am uncomfortable Sun, Mon, Tues, Weds, Thurs, and then am not on Friday, he'll be worried.

With that being said, it is Weds, and as each day has passed I have been less and less sore and uncomfortable. Today I can still feel my ovaries, sort of, but not really. I'm driving myself crazy, thinking that means the worst.

I'm trying to be positive, trying to visualize them settling in for the long haul, but I'm freaking out about it more and more, and getting pretty agitated. Of course, then I'm taking it out on dh.... hope this isn't PMS? AGH!

Please help keep me grounded? I can't seem to do it myself right now, and I can't believe that I have over a week before my beta. I'm not a poas'er, and I talked to dh about it and he doesn't want to. I just don't know what to do, think......

[biomama]

hang in there!

I haven't heard of that before, but I'm relatively unschooled in the world of IVF... It makes some sense, I guess. The corpus luteum (CL) is where the follicle(s) used to be, and they die off if there is no hCG to keep them alive. But not everyone feels them, I'm sure, just like not everyone feels ovulation...

I've had cycles where I thought I felt the CL toward the end of my tww, but that may have been the CL dying, no? I don't know if this is helping you or making it worse...

Bottom line, I would try to avoid reading too much into these feelings and symptoms, if at all possible. I know it's hard!

Can you distract yourself with funny movies? Trashy magazines? Sudoku? Housecleaning?

We are here for you, and really pulling for you.

[kristenok18]

I don't have any personal experience with IVF, but I wanted to send you a .

[Julia'sMom]

Mo doc didn't say anything about that. Also, I know the soreness has really gone down for me each day since ER. I haven't had ET yet, but there should still be some hcg left in me from the trigger shot. Try not to freak out too much, easier said that done. I"ll be praying for you. If you do find anything that is really distracting and helpful during the tww, let me know. I already feel like I'm in it even though I'm still waiting for the ET.

[KJRSMR]

Originally Posted by hope4light

OK, so I had ET on Saturday the 12th, and I have my beta on 7/25. The RE told me that if I am pg, my ovaries will continue to be sore, as the HCG from the pg will tell my ovaries to keep working. Has anyone else heard this before?

So, anyways, he told me that if I am uncomfortable Sun, Mon, Tues, Weds, Thurs, and then am not on Friday, he'll be worried.

With that being said, it is Weds, and as each day has passed I have been less and less sore and uncomfortable. Today I can still feel my ovaries, sort of, but not really. I'm driving myself crazy, thinking that means the worst.

I'm trying to be positive, trying to visualize them settling in for the long haul, but I'm freaking out about it more and more, and getting pretty agitated. Of course, then I'm taking it out on dh.... hope this isn't PMS? AGH!

Please help keep me grounded? I can't seem to do it myself right now, and I can't believe that I have over a week before my beta. I'm not a poas'er, and I talked to dh about it and he doesn't want to. I just don't know what to do, think......

First of all hugs... What I want to know is why he would say that to you? I just had a one on one with my ivf nurse and she told me what I would (should) feel like after the ET and she never once mentioned anything about my ovaries. Breathe, relax put your feet up with a good book. Never think the worst.. Good luck

[barose]

I dont have any advice, but I'm not a POASer either - its just too painful.


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Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

[hope4light]

barose - I agree with the poas thing... dh used to want to every month when my cycle's were irregular.. and the few times I gave in and had to deal with that negative was just too much for me....

On the good side, everyone here has made me feel so much better, so much more grounded, which is what I really needed and couldn't seem to do myself. I really felt there for a day that I was spiraling out of control, and that wasn't any good for anyone.

Biomama - you are so right.... I almost never know when I ovulate by the feel... I know because I know my cycle so well, the temping, the time frame, using OPK's etc, but I really could very, very, very rarely feel myself ovulating. So, I've been able to take a step back, think that I might just not be feeling it (after all, everything else about me has been so different, why wouldn't this be?!), and remembering to take care of me and the little embies that I just *know* are thriving inside of me!!

kjrsmr - I think that the RE was so sure that it will work for me, that he wanted me to know what might happen so that I don't get freaked out about it. Deep breath in, deep breath out, who knows for sure who will do what when it comes to their body, right!?!

At least on the good news, they did have two beautiful embies make it to freeze, but hopefully I won't need them - unless we decide we want another after this one (maybe, hopefully two?!) is born

[barose]

Originally Posted by hope4light

barose - I agree with the poas thing... dh used to want to every month when my cycle's were irregular.. and the few times I gave in and had to deal with that negative was just too much for me....

Theres nothing like starting a work day or weekend after facing that nasty BFN first thing in the morning.

[Aly22681]

I just wanted to let you know, when I got my BFP from IVF, I felt NOTHING!!! I was tired and bbs were a TINY bit tender but all of that was attributed to the progesterone, since I started feeling that way even BEFORE my ET. My ovaries felt better EVERYDAY after my ER, and by the time I got my BFP, I wasn't sore AT ALL!! Do you have any signs of OHSS? That is the ONLY reason I can imagine the Dr saying that to you. OHSS gets WORSE if you do become pregnant. Don't worry about symptoms, Like I said I had ZERO symptoms I was CONVINCED at 6dp3dt that it didnt work, I even thought about having a glass of wine, and then BAM, the next day, BFP!!!!! GOOD LUCK and

[hope4light]

Originally Posted by Aly22681

I just wanted to let you know, when I got my BFP from IVF, I felt NOTHING!!! I was tired and bbs were a TINY bit tender but all of that was attributed to the progesterone, since I started feeling that way even BEFORE my ET. My ovaries felt better EVERYDAY after my ER, and by the time I got my BFP, I wasn't sore AT ALL!! Do you have any signs of OHSS? That is the ONLY reason I can imagine the Dr saying that to you. OHSS gets WORSE if you do become pregnant. Don't worry about symptoms, Like I said I had ZERO symptoms I was CONVINCED at 6dp3dt that it didnt work, I even thought about having a glass of wine, and then BAM, the next day, BFP!!!!! GOOD LUCK and

Aly, I could kiss you right now!! Oh wait, here you go ~~~ : ~~~

You know, I hope it was as good for you as it was for me

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the info.... See, this is why I posted... because I KNEW that between all of you wonderful, giving, loving women that I would find my ground again.

Thank you again, to EVERYONE!!

[hope4light]

Oh yeah, see, I was so excited to answer you I forgot the OHSS part!! I don't, I haven't gained any weight, no probs going, or anything, although I do feel this crazy weight in my chest when I lie down... I've just been attributing it to stress, and I think it wasn't as bad last night as the day prior....

[soulshine]

each woman is going to have a different reaction to all of the processes in a.r.t. in every different cycle, too. i felt sore in that general area during stims and then the retrieval brought on a whole new level of sensitivity, and then the transfer, i continued to feel sore and weird of then had started progesterone and estrogen, a whole new mix of hormones...
i can't imagine that so many women would have the same or similair experiences that they would be so intune or sensitive that they could feel their ovaries get more or less sensitive on any particular day or days. you know?

fwiw, i looked and looked for symptoms that i was reading that other women were having or had on a successful cycle... it really was a waste of my time, although i can't say i could have stopped doing it because that was the mindset i was in then!... because if my boobs didn't feel sore, i was thinking the cycle was a failure, if i didn't feel nauseas at 'x' number of days dpo, failure... and on and on. all i felt was residual pharm-ey, if that makes sense?! the only thing that is going to tell you if the cycle is a 'success' is first, a positive beta, and then, staying pregnant!

you had all good things going for you in this cycle (yes i've been lurking!) and that's all you can do! i really really hope it happens this time, hope.

[LisaG]

hope4light - I have to say, over on IVF Connections, somebody asked about pregnancy symptoms from women who had had a successful IVF and NOBODY said ANYTHING about their ovaries continuing to feel sore post ER. And can I just say, I think that was really unkind of your RE to set that mind game in motion :

So, I now bid you to go forth, breathe deeply and gestate in peace :

[ChelseaW]

I had mild OHSS (didn't have to be hospitalized or anything) - it was really bad following retrieval, better but still sore at transfer, and much less sore when I got my BFP. So your doctor is definitely off on this one! Why do they tell us things that make us go crazy?! :

[Seedlings]

: I also have not heard about ovaries being sore = a bfp. The 2ww is tough. Have you tried distracting youself? Maybe a book. I just finished Water for Elephants and it was an good summer read. What about crafts or gardening as a distraction?

I have been a poas aholic, but my last ivf cycle I had no desire. I could not bring myself to do it. The pain and stress of it was too much.

Keep seeing those embies growing, dividing and thriving. Be good to yourself.

[Aly22681]

Awww, I'm glad my experience helped, and yes, I did quite enjoy the kiss, shhh don't tell my dh though HAHA!

So have you decided if your going to POAS early or are you just going to wait for your beta?? You should do whatever keeps you sane!

[hope4light]

TWW He**

That's what this time should be called. Because it is. I'm almost 1/2 way through, and I'm going crazy. Actually, after I posted this and got some great support, I was feeling SO good about everything, somehow I was almost content (if that's possible...).... Until about 10 mins ago.

So, on Wednesday I had called to see about my two embies making it to freeze, and my embryologist hadn't been in, so I talked to the other one, who had said that they made it to freeze, and looked really well, and had smilie faces and everything. Fast forward to about 10 mins ago....

My embryologist called me. She said that she had let the embies go one more day, because they had 'shrunk down' and she wanted to make sure they would open back up to blastocyst before she froze them, because if they didn't they wouldn't make it through the freeze thaw cycle. So, they apparently didn't open back up into blastocysts, they essentially died. She said they would refund the portion that we paid for freezing... woo hoo... small comfort for something not making it... I'm glad they didn't freeze them if they weren't going to make it, but what does that mean about the two they put back? :

I know, the best place for them to grow and prosper is where they belong... but still.... ugh.... please let this work out for me... I don't know if I can handle it if it doesn't....

positive thinking... I'm picturing them attached.. dividing and growing as they should be...

[Sri Radha]

This is from my IVF booklet from my clinic. It is about OHSS.

How long will my symptoms last?

1. If you are not pregnant symptoms generally resolve in about 7 days.
2. The pregnant patient may experience symptoms as long as 10-20 days.

They key words here are "generally" and "may." It's NOT 100% accurate. Don't let it get you down. Many IVF patients don't have any symptoms.

Edit: I am so sorry your embies didn't make it to freeze I am praying for your BFP!

[Julia'sMom]

hope4light - I'm so sorry this is so difficult for you and I'm sorry you didn't have any to freeze. I do believe they are much stronger and healthier in you, so the non-freezing should not matter to those implanted. Besides, don't they always put back the best two and the remainder (less than best) are the ones they consider freezing? Just remember how many things have worked out this cycle, from not over-stimming to having a fresh transfer. You've done all you could to give those embies the best possible chance. Stay strong.

[Aly22681]

None of my extra embies made it to freeze, but apparently at least one of mine attached itself and is growing!! Good Luck!!