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post #101 of 328
7/27/08 at 9:12pm
Part of me is really curious to know how this affects my milk during the night. I have noticed the 3 times I have done it that Gavin nurses longer, and less frequently in the night. I would like to think it is making the fat more available in the milk and he is sucking it right off me

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post #102 of 328
7/27/08 at 9:33pm
laughup

maybe I should wake up my 3 yo and see if he wants to pick back up night-nursing??
post #103 of 328
7/27/08 at 9:34pm
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post #104 of 328
7/28/08 at 2:29am
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Originally Posted by Feb2003 View Post
laughup

maybe I should wake up my 3 yo and see if he wants to pick back up night-nursing??
post #105 of 328
7/28/08 at 11:07am
I'm trying to figure out where I saw the statement from Cowan stating that fructose/glucose isn't beneficial for the liver. I thought it was his site, but I couldn't find it there. I'm also reading his book and just went through a couple wise traditions. I'll keep looking until I find the quote and then post here.

I've taken the honey for 3 nights now with no weight changes noted yet. Sleep wasn't an issue to start with.

I wonder about this diet for those with nurslings... fat soluble toxins are stored in fat. I guess it would depend on how quickly the fat is being lost and the length/duration of nursing sessions.
post #106 of 328
7/28/08 at 11:50am
Well, huh. I tried to go to sleep with the sun and I couldn't fall asleep for a little while (even with a rice sock on my eyes to block out light).

Also, I had very vivid, scary dreams about danger to my family.

I woke up at 4:30 and was upset from the dream. Then I dozed for 2 hours reliving the dream.

I'm willing to try again, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong:
- no electric lights in the late day...letting the light fade from the rooms naturally
- black out shades in my bedroom
- 2 big, heaping tsp Good Flow raw honey about 20 min before bed (it's more solid than liquid and easy for me to eat)

last night I also had a little raw cows milk a few minutes after the honey before brushing teeth...I thought the tryptophan would be good, but maybe I messed with the glucose:fructose ratio?

Thanks!
post #107 of 328
7/28/08 at 12:43pm
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The last few nights I've been trying to take the honey about 60-90 minutes before bed, I think sometimes it might be like 2 hours though. I seem to be falling asleep really easy, but then I've been waking up later and having fitful sleep most of the night. I feel like part of it is that I'm really getting used to not having electric lights/sounds at night which is making me feel way more sensitive to DH's studio. It's right by our bed room and I can her the radio/tv/computer and see the lights shining under the door. The cat keeps pushing the door open or dh forgets to shut it and all the noise and light pour into the bedroom. With the door shut the cat meows and scratches all night trying to get some snuggle time in. Dh stays up till all hours (like till it's light out sometimes). I'm going back to taking it right before falling asleep, that seemed to work great even though it provided a little less help in the falling asleep part.

Feb2003, try taking more honey, I think it should be more like a heaping tablespoon than a teaspoon. And FWIW I had scary dreams the first night I did it too, then I started having normal dreams again. Could have just been a coincidence.
post #108 of 328
7/28/08 at 12:51pm
thanks, CrunchyFarmGirl!

maybe I should be a little more honest, I mean specific, about the size of the scoops of honey...since it's a solid, I can get an awful big amount on an eating spoon...it probably was almost 2 Tbs!

I was thinking that I might be affected differently since my body is not used to any sugar. I've actually gotten more lax as a TF'r, but I was low carb for years before that...now we have occasional maple syrup in our oatmeal and occasional honey, but my body is not used to a big sugar load (I was/am? hypoglycemic)
post #109 of 328
7/28/08 at 2:10pm
I was able to get some local raw and unfiltered honey yesterday. I took 2 tbsp. right before bed. It was a little hard to swallow sooooo much! I started to have a little panic attack, while falling asleep, but was able to manage it for the first time since I started getting them. It lasted for just a minute and it was done.

Anyway, I was having weird dreams about the end of the world and stuff...kind of scary. I didn't have those kinds of dreams when I was taking the bad-for-you store brand honey. I have been eating a ton lately, but woke up almost 1 1/2 lbs less than usual, so maybe it's from the honey! I'll keep trying this and report back in a week.
post #110 of 328
7/28/08 at 2:24pm
A thought about those reporting vivid/unusual/scary dreams while using the honey....
I suspect that you/we were already having those dreams, but what the honey is doing is allowing better memory of the dreams. Mike McInnes said something about how the honey will increase memory, I think?
post #111 of 328
7/28/08 at 3:05pm
This is so interesting, I'll have to try it.

It seems a little in line with the Potatoes Not Prozac theory--anyone read that?
post #112 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:49am
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Originally Posted by PeggyinNC View Post
A thought about those reporting vivid/unusual/scary dreams while using the honey....
I suspect that you/we were already having those dreams, but what the honey is doing is allowing better memory of the dreams. Mike McInnes said something about how the honey will increase memory, I think?
Good point.
post #113 of 328
7/29/08 at 1:00am
I took a little honey (less than a teaspoon) last night, and totally had insomnia and a weird/vivid/scary dream. The insomnia was weird too though, because even though I felt like I wasn't sleeping, I was having crazy dreams so I must have been> I also did not wake up feeling more refreshed (something I'm really hoping for, since I am a grog monster in the a.m!)
Right now, I'm eating two eggo waffles totally drenched with honey, so we'll see how I do with the larger dose.
post #114 of 328
7/29/08 at 11:04am
I am such a rebel... I tried to stop taking the honey. I decided I didn't need it. I decided it was too much sugar.

I'm a believer in the honey now!

I think it's good to start slow with it- just a teaspoon or two- but then I think it's important to work up to the recommended dose. The effects seemed to wear off, which is one reason why I decided to stop taking it. For a couple of nights, a teaspoon didn't work. Well harrumph, I thought, why bother if it doesn't work?

Then I started sleeping less and less... partly because our whole family is getting weird rhythms right now, as my husband is home recuperating from a surgery (and ends up napping a lot, then staying up late, then sleeping in late, etc) But last night I just could NOT get to sleep. Someone was playing music loudly in the neighborhood... and the constant base thump was enough to prevent me from sleeping. Then dh would toss and turn in his sleep, or a cat would make some noise or... yeah. So, I dragged myself out of bed after two frustrating hours, scooped out a tablespoon of honey, and went back to bed. Where I slept like a rock for 7 hours. Nice.

I'm a believer! I tried to stray from the path, like I always do, but I'm back in the fold now.
post #115 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Junegoddess View Post
I am such a rebel... I tried to stop taking the honey. I decided I didn't need it. I decided it was too much sugar.

I'm a believer in the honey now!

I think it's good to start slow with it- just a teaspoon or two- but then I think it's important to work up to the recommended dose. The effects seemed to wear off, which is one reason why I decided to stop taking it. For a couple of nights, a teaspoon didn't work. Well harrumph, I thought, why bother if it doesn't work?

Then I started sleeping less and less... partly because our whole family is getting weird rhythms right now, as my husband is home recuperating from a surgery (and ends up napping a lot, then staying up late, then sleeping in late, etc) But last night I just could NOT get to sleep. Someone was playing music loudly in the neighborhood... and the constant base thump was enough to prevent me from sleeping. Then dh would toss and turn in his sleep, or a cat would make some noise or... yeah. So, I dragged myself out of bed after two frustrating hours, scooped out a tablespoon of honey, and went back to bed. Where I slept like a rock for 7 hours. Nice.

I'm a believer! I tried to stray from the path, like I always do, but I'm back in the fold now.
Yeah, I tried 2 night to NOT take it. Bad mistake!!!!

I felt like *crap* when I woke up the next day, muscles hurt, felt exhausted, etc. And the more I think about it- going to sleep all night, and nursing like 5-6 or 7 times before I eat again in the morning does not agree with me! Honey seems to make it better though.
post #116 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:28pm
wow, that's such a great story! I have taken the honey for (I think) 9 consecutive nights now--I take about 2 oz.--and am very happy with the results. I sleep so much better, and I am healing far better than I was. I have also lost about 3.5 lbs. so far, without changing anything else. I just feel a lot better with the honey. It serves as a kind of dessert for me at the end of the day (I sip it like a cordial out of a shot glass), and so I don't really need any other sweet treat, which is a bonus for me!
post #117 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:53pm
o.k, folks, what am I doing wrong? Last night I completely smothered two eggo's with honey right before bed (taking it straight doesn't appeal to me) and I didn't sleep any better at all. Totally was awake from 3-4:30 while my family slept blissfully, only to be awakened by my daughter at 5:30 as usual.....
I'm also pregnant. Does it work when you're pregnant???
post #118 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:56pm
I would check the ingredients in the eggos? I know I am very sensitive to additives while pregnant! I wish I had known about this while pregnant!
post #119 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by Enudely View Post
o.k, folks, what am I doing wrong? Last night I completely smothered two eggo's with honey right before bed (taking it straight doesn't appeal to me) and I didn't sleep any better at all.
Eggos are mostly carbs/starch, so it's bound to mess up the glucose/fructose balance we're striving for. I would suggest maybe putting some in herbal tea or even just warm water?
post #120 of 328
7/29/08 at 12:57pm
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I would check the ingredients in the eggos? I know I am very sensitive to additives while pregnant! I wish I had known about this while pregnant!
they are whole grain ones, not eggo brand, but I will check the ingredients.
Do you think that could keep me up?? I slept the same way I do every night, and I usually don't eat packaged food type things....

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