The Hibernation Diet - Page 3

[mbravebird]

Originally Posted by Metasequoia

On the label it says, "TOTALLY RAW - Unheated, unstrained honey containing bee pollen, propolis, beeswax, and possibly unavoidable bee parts." It's $11.99 for 3 lbs. I use it in my tea, probably defeats the purpose, huh? Maybe I'll just buy cheaper honey for my tea & save the Walt's for before bedtime....

$11.99 for three pounds??? My gosh, that's a good price.

[mbravebird]

Originally Posted by CrunchyFarmGirl

I read more about the lights while sleeping, because I thought it odd that moon light could be bad for us.... I read into the studies that had been done and they used bright strong lights, sometimes for as much as 90 minutes in the middle of the night. They stated that the highest amount of light that didn't cause melatonin to lower was 5 lux and was from a blue or green light source. Higher lux could be used from say, a red light. They said that 5 lux was just slightly more that the light of the full moon on a clear night. To me that all adds up to perfectly to meaning that we were meant to let the moonlight shine in (and help regulate our moon cycles )

Thanks for doing this research -- I was wondering the same thing about the moonlight. It does seem so bright to me on full nights, but I, too, am of the camp that we must need it for regulation. Although I understand that caves and such are probably darker and let in less moonlight than our modern windowed houses. But are we biologically adapted to caves across the board? Surely huts, and teepees, and sod houses and such, let in significant moonlight?

Originally Posted by GouGou

I told DH about it and he made a cynical face and said, "Why not just skip the whole glucose-fructose thing and take straight melatonin instead?"

I think the answer to this is that it will eventually reduce the size of the pineal gland and make it difficult for your body to make its own melatonin. I can't remember where I read that, though -- anybody else know?

[GouGou]

Ah!!! The shrinking pineal gland!!! Yes! That makes excellent sense! I will forward this info to DH.

BTW, melatonin is considered a controlled substance in France and perhaps other parts of Europe. We tried to buy some once at a vitamin shop and they looked at us funny. DH swears by it, but I've always been a little wary.

I took another teaspoonful last night. Slept like a log, had vivid dreams, woke up refreshed, less congested, and definitely less puffy around the midsection. I also don't seem to be waking up famished like I usually do, and in a much brighter mood.

I'm really lovin' this!! :

[PeggyinNC]

Yeah, I woke up in a better mood, too. We've just moved into a new home, and I have been having some serious back and neck pain, but this morning I really felt like I had been healing overnight...it was amazing. I took a shot glass full of honey before bed, and had also taken a half shot of coconut oil about an hour earlier, thinking maybe those enzymes might also aid my digestion (the honey's enzymes are really helping with that!). Just ordered the book from amazon today!

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by GouGou

So, I did a teaspoon of honey last night (I just couldn't handle any more straight up). I did wake twice to pee, but I've also got AF going on right now, so that may be connected? I did wake up feeling better than I have in a really really long time. As for the weight loss aspect, all of this is really counterintuitive given all the reading I've done in the past year (Gary Taubes, et al.), but hey, I'll give it a shot and see what happens. Just the better sleep is worth it for me provided I don't put on a ton of weight in the process.

I did 2 teaspoons last night - it was sort of hard to eat it all - kinda burned my throat.
I slept like a log though - except for the time I got up to get a blanket (since I stripped the bed after Ds stood there & peed on it. )
AF is here too, she came on Saturday, just in time for the wedding I went to in the boonies.
On th eopposite end of the spectrum, I really *don't* want to lose any weight.

Originally Posted by GouGou

Metasequoia, where in our area are you getting Walt's honey?

I buy it at Kimberton Whole Foods - awesome store, you'll love it. They carry all organic, local when possible produce, local pastured meats & eggs, raw cow's milk & raw goat's milk - lots of good stuff.

I was thinking of visiting Walt's - I'd like to see the apiary.

[CrunchyFarmGirl]

Originally Posted by mbravebird

I think the answer to this is that it will eventually reduce the size of the pineal gland and make it difficult for your body to make its own melatonin. I can't remember where I read that, though -- anybody else know?

In the end of "Light Out: Sleep, Sugar, and Survival" Whiley says that taking Melatonin supplements will weaken the bodies ability to take it and strongly warns against doing so.

I took a much heavier dose last, night closer to an ounce (which is 2 tablespoons according to my shot glass measuring cup) compared to the couple of teaspoon of the last few nights. I slept way better again, like I did the first few nights, so I think there is a definite connection to the quantity and the benefit. I might try getting to 2 oz. tonight, although I almost don't want that to be better because it would be so expensive to buy that much honey! Especially if DH gets into it too.

[GoddessKristie]

I gave this a try the past two nights and I found that it took a while for it to kick in (maybe 30 min?) but I had no problems after that. I also had really vivid, emotional dreams. I haven't had dreams like that since I was a teenager! Thanks for suggesting this!

[AJP]

FYI, I just checked and 2 tablespoons of honey weighs 1.5 oz., which makes it 50% heavier than the same volume of water. 2 Tbsp. of water weighs one ounce. I used a 1/8 cup measure, because one cup equals 8 fluid oz., which is 8 oz. by weight of water, and I checked it first with water to make sure it's a true 1/8 cup. It holds one oz. of water, but 1.5 oz. of honey. I don't know if this honey-before-bed thing is supposed to be 1-2 oz. of honey by volume or by weight, or how much difference the exact amount of honey makes, but the two measurements are not interchangeable.

[mamaMAMAma]

I'm curious if I'm the only one who has tried this and not sleeping better. I took about 1T last night. I still woke up quite a few times, no notable dreams, but I felt more refreshed in the morning.
I turned down the brightness on my bedside clock. Anything else?

[GouGou]

I actually think it made me hyper last night. But we did also have T-storms all night long... I got very little sleep, all told...

[Leilalu]

Originally Posted by Pinky Tuscadero

So, I told my mom to try taking the honey at bedtime because she has a terrible time sleping. She has been sleeping great and has also lost 3 lbs. I didn't even tell her about the weight loss because I didn't want her to be looking for it. It was a total bonus for her!
I'm starting this tonigh, too!

Are you co-sleeping? I am a bit nervous to try this as I co-sleep and don't want to sleep too hard

[ananas]

Subbing to read later.

[CrunchyFarmGirl]

Originally Posted by mamaMAMAma

I'm curious if I'm the only one who has tried this and not sleeping better. I took about 1T last night. I still woke up quite a few times, no notable dreams, but I felt more refreshed in the morning.
I turned down the brightness on my bedside clock. Anything else?

I still have several wakings some nights, and I seem to have dreams only half the nights so far. I do however, always feel better in the morning. I did feel less well in the morning though when I tried getting away with less honey.

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by mamaMAMAma

I'm curious if I'm the only one who has tried this and not sleeping better. I took about 1T last night. I still woke up quite a few times, no notable dreams, but I felt more refreshed in the morning.
I turned down the brightness on my bedside clock. Anything else?

I took a couple of teaspoons again last night & slept terribly. The thunder woke me too & I had an awful time falling back to sleep.

Originally Posted by GouGou

I actually think it made me hyper last night. But we did also have T-storms all night long... I got very little sleep, all told...

Yep, me too.

Originally Posted by Leilalu

Are you co-sleeping? I am a bit nervous to try this as I co-sleep and don't want to sleep too hard

I'm cosleeping & all seems fine.


I took my honey about 20 minutes ago & am feeling *really* drowsy, but I also drank 3 glasses of merlot & took a Benadryl. : (I'm not a Benadryl junkie, I swear, it's for the mysterious upper arm itching that is slowly but surely driving me to the brink of insanity.)

[yitlan]

Originally Posted by Leilalu

Are you co-sleeping? I am a bit nervous to try this as I co-sleep and don't want to sleep too hard

The first night I did this I slept really well. I've found that if dd wakes up and I wake up, I fall back asleep quickly and hard. I'm drowsy, as opposed to laying there for a bit waiting to get back to sleep. But I definitely still wake up.

[Pinky Tuscadero]

Originally Posted by Leilalu

Are you co-sleeping? I am a bit nervous to try this as I co-sleep and don't want to sleep too hard

Yes, we cosleep. ds4 is almost 4 months old and about 20 lbs. I have no fears that I will roll over on him. It would be like sleeping on a sack of potatoes. Plus, he won't be happy if I roll on top of him. I'm pretty sure any healthy baby is going to kick and fuss if you actually lay on top of him.
I don't think the honey will make you sleep like you are drugged. I believe it will "enhance" your sleep, not knock you out like a narcotic! It's only honey!

[dogmom327]

I tried it last night. I woke up when DS woke up to nurse but I don't think I woke up besides that. I wish I could sleep through him waking up...just kidding.

I'm a bit nervous about this though because I'm sensitive to sugar and very prone to yeast infections but I'm going to try this and see if my symptoms act up. I hope not!

[Leilalu]

Originally Posted by Pinky Tuscadero

Yes, we cosleep. ds4 is almost 4 months old and about 20 lbs. I have no fears that I will roll over on him. It would be like sleeping on a sack of potatoes. Plus, he won't be happy if I roll on top of him. I'm pretty sure any healthy baby is going to kick and fuss if you actually lay on top of him.
I don't think the honey will make you sleep like you are drugged. I believe it will "enhance" your sleep, not knock you out like a narcotic! It's only honey!

ok, thanks guys

And what you say makes sense Pinky. And I know our babies are about the same age-which is why I asked.

I just usually sleep pretty heavy anyway. I actually had a problem with this after he was born. My body really took it hard, having a third c-section.It's actually kind of scary. Some nights I was soooooo tired that dh would have to wake me up and be like"wake up-he's been crying for 5 minutes!" But it's all fine now and I always wake up before he does. I just don't want any repeats of the above!

[GoddessKristie]

I checked with my DH when he got home and he also had a wierd night too. He said he slept really well and woke up an hour early feeling really awake and refreshed. He said I was sleeping really crazy, sprawled all over with covers going everywhere. Must have been those wild dreams!
Can't wait to see what tonight brings!

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by dogmom327

I'm a bit nervous about this though because I'm sensitive to sugar and very prone to yeast infections but I'm going to try this and see if my symptoms act up. I hope not!

This is my very concern. I am very prone to yeast infections, and I really want to try this honey thing, but am afraid of the outcome. I think I would rather sleep terribly, than have that awful burn/itch.