If there was a vaccine for AIDS...

[california_mom]

I'm trying to make a simple argument for not vaxing for Hep B. Could I compare the disease to AIDS, in the sense that it's a sexually transmitted disease?

For example, assume I'm talking to someone thinking of the Hep B vaccine for their baby: "If there was an AIDS vaccine available right now, would you inject your baby with it, like we do with Hep B?"

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Is there something I'm missing? Can Hep B be transmitted more easily than AIDS? Is there any reason on this green earth of ours why a baby needs to be vaccinated for Hep B?

[Ruthla]

I suspect that a lot of people would JUMP at the chance to use an HIV vaccine, and would get it for themselves and their newborns if they thought it would protect them from AIDS.

No, there's no reason why babies need to be vaccinated against Hep B, but I think you're going about this the wrong way. Somebody who hasn't yet challenged the "vaccines are wonderful" paradigm isn't going to be convinced because of another fictional vaccine. The people who would say "um, maybe vaxing for AIDS is a bad idea" are the ones who are already questioning Hep B.

[Fyrestorm]

Originally Posted by california_mom

I'm trying to make a simple argument for not vaxing for Hep B. Could I compare the disease to AIDS, in the sense that it's a sexually transmitted disease?

There is a pretty big difference as far as transmission goes...Hep B can live outside the human body for quite a while...therefore people can use the casual contact argument. The HIV virus has a very short lifespan outside of the body.

[california_mom]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm

There is a pretty big difference as far as transmission goes...Hep B can live outside the human body for quite a while...therefore people can use the casual contact argument. The HIV virus has a very short lifespan outside of the body.

Oh. Ok. Thanks.

Crap. Guess I better keep thinking...

[mamakay]

I'm trying to make a simple argument for not vaxing for Hep B.

I'd go with "The chances that my baby will catch Hep B before reaching adolescence is close to zero."

Nuff said.

[PassionateWriter]

yeh, i think alot of ppl would LOVE to get a vax against AIDS. omg i cant even imagine the adverse reactions to that one.

[mama1803]

Oh, the reactions have been pretty devastating

Originally Posted by PassionateWriter

yeh, i think alot of ppl would LOVE to get a vax against AIDS. omg i cant even imagine the adverse reactions to that one.

The Washington Post ran an article about 4 months ago on the latest AIDS vaccine. It was the third such vaccine to go to trials. The lead researcher/developer of the vaccine requested that the trial be stopped immediately when it was discovered that the vaccine actually caused HIV. The AIDS vaccine has been in the works for 25 years and billions of $$ have been spent and the lead researcher actually admitted that they needed to go back to square one.

If the Post has archived articles, I'll try to find it and post.---Just checked, the Post doesn't have the full articles but I did find the dates and the writer. Two stories written by David Brown that ran on March 21 and March 26, 2008 if anyone can figure out how to get the full articles.

[kiwiva]

Originally Posted by mamakay

I'd go with "The chances that my baby will catch Hep B before reaching adolescence is close to zero."

Nuff said.

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The fact that this vax was created for iv drug users and prostitutes and the reason (admitted) that they give it to babies is that they are a captive audience is more than enough of an argument for me. I believe there is also a question as to how long immunity will last and that it may be waning by the time sexual activity is likely to start too.

[california_mom]

Thank you for all the replies! : I wish I posted before my bff let her baby get the hep b vax

[CanidFL]

Originally Posted by PassionateWriter

yeh, i think alot of ppl would LOVE to get a vax against AIDS. omg i cant even imagine the adverse reactions to that one.

Last I heard, it was a live virus vaccine. Soooo you can imagine the repercussions of using this vaccine world wide.

[Yulia_R]

Originally Posted by CanidFL

Last I heard, it was a live virus vaccine. Soooo you can imagine the repercussions of using this vaccine world wide.

oh my...this is just scary . what a crazy world we live in ...