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What religions don't believe in vaxing?

post #1 of 41
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I'm wonding what religion it is that I'm going to need to "convert" to so that I can get my partially vaxed child into school.
post #2 of 41
You don't need to say you are a specific religion. You just need to sign the waiver saying it is against your religious beliefs.
post #3 of 41
Yep, waivers are based on PERSONAL religious beliefs. That means that if you aren't part of a religion or the religion you belong has no stand on vaxes, you can still get the religious exemption.
post #4 of 41
ditto above, plus, any religion which confesses the "right to life" stance would qualify as vaccines are made w/aborted fetal tissue.
post #5 of 41
What religions don't believe in vaccines?

Mine.

I religiously believe that injecting my children or myself with carcinogens or neurotoxins is wrong.

We have a religious exemption and have never been asked about our religion.
post #6 of 41
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ditto above, plus, any religion which confesses the "right to life" stance would qualify as vaccines are made w/aborted fetal tissue.
I don't think so. That is true only for vaccinations that are cultured in aborted fetal tissue-not *all* vaxes. IMHO, it *should* be true,as there is so much death in any single shot.


Scientology and Amish? I dunno.
post #7 of 41
I believe that mentioning the aborted fetal tissue is a philosophical reason. If you want to mention a religion, you can join Christian Science. But it's not ok for them to ask which religion so the less said, the better.
post #8 of 41
It is NOT against the Amish religion and some Amish do vaccinate their kids. They leave it up to each individual family.
post #9 of 41
Claiming to be something you're not can backfire- for example, the Christian Scientists may not vax but they also don't use conventional medicine at all- which could put your waiver in jeapordy if the school nurse finds out that your child was ever medicated for an illness.

Your best bet is to be short and to the point "vaccines are against my personal religious beliefs" and if asked to clarify (and ONLY if asked) say something vague like "G-d made our bodies perfectly and it's a sin to tamper with that."
post #10 of 41
Yep, I'm sticking with "The Religion of Nobody's Business."
post #11 of 41
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I don't think so. That is true only for vaccinations that are cultured in aborted fetal tissue-not *all* vaxes. IMHO, it *should* be true,as there is so much death in any single shot.


Scientology and Amish? I dunno.
i didn't say "all", but i believe that dr. sears in his vax book cites this. along w/monkey liver, cow blood, etc. i'm not sure of the technicalities between philosophical and religious exempts. but if a person believes "god says abortion is murder", then this would be a religious viewpoint. (not wanting to open up the abortion debate here, just the "religious" aspect of vaxes)
post #12 of 41
My friends IRL,who choose to not vax,and file a religious waiver,*never* reveal what religion they are. The public schools-here- don't ask either.
post #13 of 41
good to know that you don't have to say what religon. Somebody told me you'd have to. And i was in the same boat as the OP. Thanks everyone!
post #14 of 41
FLying Spaghetti Monster? Most religions that I know of allow choice of whether to or not but to directly state "no vaxes" I know of few....FLDS (well, Jeff's former group, not all branches maybe), some Amish, Christian Science maybe, not sure about Mennonites or Quakers. But still, even an athiest or agnostic has personal beliefs that can be construed as religious.....even if it's just the Spaghetti Monster.
post #15 of 41
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FLying Spaghetti Monster?
My personal favourite!
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.even if it's just the Spaghetti Monster.
You will not speak of our noodily lord suchly!



I agree with PPs they can't make you prove your devotion to a religion. If they ask say "None-ya"
post #16 of 41
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FLying Spaghetti Monster? Most religions that I know of allow choice of whether to or not but to directly state "no vaxes" I know of few....FLDS (well, Jeff's former group, not all branches maybe), some Amish, Christian Science maybe, not sure about Mennonites or Quakers. But still, even an athiest or agnostic has personal beliefs that can be construed as religious.....even if it's just the Spaghetti Monster.
i can confidently say mennonites and quakers, unfortunately, have no such restrictions. spaghetti monster, hmmm, i'll have to google that one!
post #17 of 41
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Originally Posted by thefragile7393 View Post
FLying Spaghetti Monster? Most religions that I know of allow choice of whether to or not but to directly state "no vaxes" I know of few....FLDS (well, Jeff's former group, not all branches maybe), some Amish, Christian Science maybe, not sure about Mennonites or Quakers. But still, even an athiest or agnostic has personal beliefs that can be construed as religious.....even if it's just the Spaghetti Monster.
FLDS is not against vaccination. They leave it up to the individual families as well.

I know this because my best friend is FLDS and used to live on the same ranch as Warren Jeffs.
post #18 of 41
I *had* to state a religion or they wouldn't let us in to daycare. I said Lutheran b/c I panicked & that is what DH is. The daycare statute in IL is very vague and they wouldn't take us without it & we were in a desperate childcare situation. I made sure to amend their medical release form to include that we don't give permission for vaxes. I hope it doesn't come up again. If it does, I will just ask how they are certified as religious experts to determine what is "right" for a religion to believe.
post #19 of 41
Hmm... I've been wondering this as well lately. I'm Southern Baptist, but it truly is against my personal religious beliefs to inject posion into my children, so I don't feel as if I'm lying when I say it's against my religious beliefs. But, I think I've figured it out.

How about non-denomenational? It's nothing specific, yet it is generally accepted. I think if for any reason I would ever need a specific one I'd go with non-denominational. That way there wouldn't be specific other rules you'd need to be appearing to adhere to.
post #20 of 41
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i didn't say "all", but i believe that dr. sears in his vax book cites this. along w/monkey liver, cow blood, etc. i'm not sure of the technicalities between philosophical and religious exempts. but if a person believes "god says abortion is murder", then this would be a religious viewpoint. (not wanting to open up the abortion debate here, just the "religious" aspect of vaxes)
But it has to be ALL.

-For a religious exemption you need to be "against the practice of vaccination". If you give your reasons to be against vaccinations as:

"I'm against vaccination because they use aborted fetal cells" - This is a philosophical reason.

"I'm against pre-marital sex and some vaxes are for sexually transmitted diseases." This is a philosophical reason.

Again, you have to be against the the practice of vaccination. For a more through explanation of why this is read the Wexler decision below.



The Wexler Decision
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