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post #201 of 217
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Originally Posted by smartycat View Post
This all makes me very sad.

I never want anyone to pick a dog over a person but it really just goes to show how disposable pets are. When I got my Pomeranian puppy recently I did so knowing that it would be here until I was in my 50's and my hopefully future child to be would be in their teens. It isn't just a commitment I was making in my late 30s.

If this is the feeling on this board, then I may have to step back. I have devoted my life to the well being of animals and this view of them breaks my heart a million times over
I agree with you somewhat on your opinion about animals for me personally; however, I can not judge another persons situation and the decision they make. People make the best decisions they can with what they know at the time for their circumstances. Everyone is trying to do what they think it is best, and everyone's circumstances are different. I think the pps have legitimate concerns that anyone would have a hard time making a decision about.

Warning: description of dog fight

Personally, we had to find a new home for my first dog, M, who I still love dearly and think about everyday. Never in a million years did I think I would give a pet away, but at the time we felt we had to.We had to find a new home for her because she started exhibiting aggression and then had two major fights with our other older dog, B (who was an abandoned rescue). The second fight almost killed B - she probably would have only gotten a little bit more than a nick, but she was old so her skin tore easily. We had gotten M as a puppy who was also abandoned, and we had no idea what breed she was or what her temperment would be - she was a very laid back puppy at first. Looking back, I think it was partially my fault that the fights happened. The younger dog is a very energetic dog that needed a lot of exercise. From since she was a puppy I would take her out on hour and two hour walks, runs, and swimming in ponds. When we rescued B we continued to have at least hour walks, runs, and swims, and shorter walks throughout the day. When my daughter was born, I had an episiotemy : that was extremely painful for two years after, and it made it extremely painful to walk long distances. I still tried to walk them for 20 minutes to a half hour, but it was extremely painful. My husband couldn't walk them much either since he worked 13 hrs a day. Looking back, if I had known what I know now - that M needed that hour walk to get her energy out and not take it out on B - then I would have found a neighbor or someone to take her for a longer walk. But I didn't know that, and I was in the throws of having a new baby and I kept thinking that my scar area would start to feel better (it didn't) and I could take them out on longer walks. Well, fast forward to when dd was 9 months old. We took the dogs to a pet care place where they could run around and play and be lovingly watched and not in a cage when we went on a two week long trip. While we were gone, the caretaker threw a ball for the dogs to run after and they both went after it and got in a fight when B got there first. M was definately the aggressor. Now, I constantly think of the what ifs and miss M everyday, but we couldn't risk her getting in a third fight (the first one was very minor in comparison - but should have set my warning bells off more than it did) and killing B. We found a great home for her on a farm (really! ) were she loves it running around and swimming in the creek. She is their only dog (which is what she needed we realized after) and they love her very much. We visit her everytime we are up that way, and she is very happy. She has never been aggressive towards people only other dogs - and only other alpha dogs and B (who she was jealous of I'm surmising). If I had to make the decision today, maybe I could have worked it out so that they two dogs were never in the same room together, but we couldn't do that at the time.

Anyway, what I'm saying is we each make different decisions for our children, animals, and lives, and I try not to get upset at someone for those decisions because I am not in their shoes. I hope you continue in our forum, smartycat, because we all benefit when we have different perspectives and opinions to listen to.
post #202 of 217
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Originally Posted by momofive2b View Post
Okay, this is getting way out of hand and needs to stop...please. It is setting a bad tone for the rest of us and this is not what posting is all about. We all have opinions of what we do, which are different, but that doesn't make them right or wrong either. It isn't fair to judge from what someone else reads and there is always more to the story than initially presented. It's just like emailing...we can't know the true emotion given within the context originally sent. No one should have to explain or justify their reasons, as this is a place to come and be accepted with support...no matter what. Choosing to have or not have animals is a personal choice and shouldn't be passed judgment for their decision to keep or get rid of a pet. I would hope that others would be accepting of those who talk about nursing or not, home birth vs. hospital, or even going pain-free vs. epidural. Nothing makes us stronger or better than the other because we have opposite opinions, and no one is less of a person for doing so.
Yes to all of this!
post #203 of 217
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Originally Posted by momofive2b View Post
Okay, this is getting way out of hand and needs to stop...please. It is setting a bad tone for the rest of us and this is not what posting is all about. We all have opinions of what we do, which are different, but that doesn't make them right or wrong either. It isn't fair to judge from what someone else reads and there is always more to the story than initially presented. It's just like emailing...we can't know the true emotion given within the context originally sent. No one should have to explain or justify their reasons, as this is a place to come and be accepted with support...no matter what. Choosing to have or not have animals is a personal choice and shouldn't be passed judgment for their decision to keep or get rid of a pet. I would hope that others would be accepting of those who talk about nursing or not, home birth vs. hospital, or even going pain-free vs. epidural. Nothing makes us stronger or better than the other because we have opposite opinions, and no one is less of a person for doing so.
Thanks for posting this mama. I think sometimes thing get soooo heated on MDC it really takes away from the community atmosphere. Yes, it's okay to disagree, but this is not a forum for debate, it's a forum for community. According to the MDC user agreement:

"...we ask that you agree to respect and uphold the integrity of this community. Through your direct or indirect participation here you agree to make a personal effort to maintain a comfortable and respectful atmosphere for our guests and members. "
post #204 of 217
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Originally Posted by momofive2b View Post
Okay, this is getting way out of hand and needs to stop...please. It is setting a bad tone for the rest of us and this is not what posting is all about. We all have opinions of what we do, which are different, but that doesn't make them right or wrong either. It isn't fair to judge from what someone else reads and there is always more to the story than initially presented. It's just like emailing...we can't know the true emotion given within the context originally sent. No one should have to explain or justify their reasons, as this is a place to come and be accepted with support...no matter what. Choosing to have or not have animals is a personal choice and shouldn't be passed judgment for their decision to keep or get rid of a pet. I would hope that others would be accepting of those who talk about nursing or not, home birth vs. hospital, or even going pain-free vs. epidural. Nothing makes us stronger or better than the other because we have opposite opinions, and no one is less of a person for doing so.
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You just said exactly what I wanted to say much more succintly and clear. Thank you.
post #205 of 217
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Originally Posted by quasar View Post
I hear ya smartycat. It just saddens me because there is so much that could be worked through and prepared for. I mean, the average preganancy is 40 weeks. There is all that time to work towards getting the dogs used to baby noises and smells. Working with them on basic obedience, and new routines or contacting a behaviorist if problems arise instead of just looking for someone else to deal with it. I know dynamics change once a baby is born. And maybe I can't realize how much they will change right now, but I know I am already going to try to prepare my excitable 113# German Shepherd for a baby coming to the house.

And I still fail to see how it's funny... lol?
Yes, I think it's great to use the 40 weeks to prepare your animals for baby's arrival. That's what I did; however, I was unable to foresee that my dog was going to bite people, esp my baby DS!! Hello?? I'd be crazy to want to keep my dog! And the pp who spoke about getting rid of her dogs because of her son's allergies and high needs? Again...perfectly legit. Her son is allergic to dogs!! I'm always going to choose people's needs over an animal's. Always.

Anyway, I agree with momof5tobe that we need to drop it. Our DDC is open, we should be talking about our babies and supporting each other in all of our decisions as women and as mothers. If you like animals more than me, a-ok, but please don't judge me when I make a sensible, well-thought out decision for my family.
post #206 of 217
My husband and I are due with baby #2 around April 11th :-) :
post #207 of 217
You're welcome...I just want to make sure that no one is afraid to write something in fear of being judged or thought of differently. Enough said...

Okay, so how ya'll feeling lately? I didn't know if anyone has begun the dreaded m/s this early on yet or not. I pray that it stays at bay for all of us, and if it does come I hope that it is short-lived and/or minor!

One annoying thing going on with my body is loose stools (sorry-tmi), and didn't know if anyone else was going through this same experience right now...
post #208 of 217
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Originally Posted by momofive2b View Post
Okay, so how ya'll feeling lately? I didn't know if anyone has begun the dreaded m/s this early on yet or not. I pray that it stays at bay for all of us, and if it does come I hope that it is short-lived and/or minor!
I am estimating that I'm 4 1/2 weeks pregnant. Right now the only symptoms I'm experiencing are REALLY sore breasts, fatigue, and a seriously heightened sense of smell (which makes changing my son's diapers oh so fun!!!!) LOL I had really bad morning sickness with my first son, but I don't think it started until around 6 or 7 weeks. So if this pregnancy is like my last one (which wasn't too long ago, my son's only 11 months old), I think I have about a week and a half to go before it really sets in.
post #209 of 217
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Originally Posted by momofive2b View Post
One annoying thing going on with my body is loose stools (sorry-tmi), and didn't know if anyone else was going through this same experience right now...
Yeah, I'm having this also. It's odd, too, because isn't pregnancy supposed to make you constipated? However, I'm not complaining, because I'll take loose stools over constipation any day!
post #210 of 217
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Originally Posted by CatholicBFMama View Post
Yeah, I'm having this also. It's odd, too, because isn't pregnancy supposed to make you constipated? However, I'm not complaining, because I'll take loose stools over constipation any day!
One of the symptoms of early pregnancy is diarrhea. It's totally normal, momma!
post #211 of 217
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Originally Posted by Bexo View Post
I am estimating that I'm 4 1/2 weeks pregnant. Right now the only symptoms I'm experiencing are REALLY sore breasts, fatigue, and a seriously heightened sense of smell (which makes changing my son's diapers oh so fun!!!!) LOL I had really bad morning sickness with my first son, but I don't think it started until around 6 or 7 weeks. So if this pregnancy is like my last one (which wasn't too long ago, my son's only 11 months old), I think I have about a week and a half to go before it really sets in.
OMG, I dry heaved while changing one of DS's poopy dipes today.
post #212 of 217
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Originally Posted by katiedidbug View Post
OMG, I dry heaved while changing one of DS's poopy dipes today.
Before I realized I was pregnant, I was telling my husband that I thought our son wasn't digesting some of his food properly because his diapers *all of a sudden* smelled so bad!!!! Next time I won't even waste money on a pregnancy test! My nose will do the trick!
post #213 of 217
No m/s yet, knock on some really hard wood, but I am dreading when it does kick in, if it does. I am 6 weeks now and feel okay. I had bad m/s with my DD around 8 weeks and with my 3 DS I had migraine h/a around 5 weeks. So, who knows how this time will go but hope that if it comes...it is minor and/or short-lived. How are the rest of you doing and feeling?
post #214 of 217
Can I join? I just got my BFP! I can't believe it. My EDD is 4/29. Wow this is exciting!
post #215 of 217
Welcome to the April board of 2009! It's neat to be able to share the BFP early on, since it's too exciting to keep it all in, and we don't plan on spreading the baby news like fire until I am 12 weeks. Only 6 more weeks to go...I pray you are all feeling well.

The nausea is slowly creeping in now, as I had my very first day over the weekend. I wake up "green to the gills" first thing in the morning, and any time I need to get up in the night to pee or help a little one. I have heard that ginger and peppermint are supposed to take the edge off a bit.

Another S&S I am noticing this time around, that I haven't had since my DD, is bad acne. I don't recall this with my 3 DS, but do with this one. My face is a mess and so is my chest area If this one is a girl...then she is already stealing her mama's looks! My hair is thin and stringy as well, but with my boys it grew faster and was shinier/fuller.

How are the rest of you doing? I hope nothing bad to report...
post #216 of 217
Welcome to the April board of 2009! It's neat to be able to share the BFP early on, since it's too exciting to keep it all in, and we don't plan on spreading the baby news like fire until I am 12 weeks. Only 6 more weeks to go...I pray you are all feeling well.

The nausea is slowly creeping in now, as I had my very first day over the weekend. I wake up "green to the gills" first thing in the morning, and any time I need to get up in the night to pee or help a little one. I have heard that ginger and peppermint are supposed to take the edge off a bit.

Another S&S I am noticing this time around, that I haven't had since my DD, is bad acne. I don't recall this with my 3 DS, but do with this one. My face is a mess and so is my chest area. If this one is a girl...then she is already stealing her mama's looks! My hair is thin and stringy as well, but with my boys it grew faster and was shinier/fuller.

How are the rest of you doing? I hope nothing bad to report...
post #217 of 217
Hello! Just joining in! I think our edd is 4//26

Yay!
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