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post #21 of 27
The idea of planning anything around TLE seems a little extreme to me. Remember y2K?

Or some other gems of past prediction:

The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. -- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)

By 1985, air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half..." Life magazine, January 1970.

Get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters--the worst may be yet to come. That's the long-long-range weather forecast being given out by "climatologists." the people who study very long-term world weather trends…. Washington Post January 11, 1970

Because of increased dust, cloud cover and water vapor "...the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born," Newsweek magazine, January 26, 1970.

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind. We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation," - Barry Commoner Washington University Earth Day 1970

"(By 1995) somewhere between 75 and 85 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct." Sen. Gaylord Nelson, quoting Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, Look magazine, April 1970.

“By the year 2000...the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America and Australia, will be in famine,” Peter Gunter, North Texas State University, The Living Wilderness, Spring 1970.

Convection in the Antarctic Ice Sheet Leading to a Surge of the Ice Sheet and Possibly to a New Ice Age. – Science 1970

“In the next 50 years fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sun's rays that the Earth's average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to 10 years, could be sufficient to trigger an ice age." – Washington Post - July 9, 1971

http://www.lowerwolfjaw.com/agw/quotes.htm
post #22 of 27
I consider myself a level-headed prepper. I have a year's supply of food, a generator, medical supplies, garden and skills out the wazoo... and I have to say that I'm truly amazed that someone would change their location based on one single person's opinions.

I'm not saying that there isn't a real threat to our standard of living in the future... but to suggest that you move based on what one guy happens to possibly, maybe, if the situation is right think might be the future based on a lot of erroneous past history?

Perspective also seems to be in short supply these days.
post #23 of 27
I'm with bczmama. I've lived long enough to have heard many of these same predictions of doom and gloom that are overblown and cause people to panic. Absolutely you should prepare for hardtimes; YOUR hardtimes. You are much more likely to suffer a job loss, disability, or God forbid, the death of the family breadwinner then for Kunstlers predictions to come true. Shore up your pantry, learn to sew and garden but keep his dire predictions in perspective.
post #24 of 27
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I consider myself a level-headed prepper. I have a year's supply of food, a generator, medical supplies, garden and skills out the wazoo... and I have to say that I'm truly amazed that someone would change their location based on one single person's opinions.

I'm not saying that there isn't a real threat to our standard of living in the future... but to suggest that you move based on what one guy happens to possibly, maybe, if the situation is right think might be the future based on a lot of erroneous past history?

Perspective also seems to be in short supply these days.
I think my perspective is just fine, thank you very much. There probably was a nicer way to phrase your post.

I guess, I hadn't really known about peak oil, about some of the situations that could arise. Reading this book and reading things on this forum really opened my eyes. I can see the truth in what is being said. It has given me pause to think about where we are located and what that might mean if things do go the way described in TLE. I think it's smart to consider all one's options and to make sure that one's family is in the best position possible.

That is why I started this thread, to get more input on this. And so far, I've gotten some great information. So thanks everyone!

Zamber, I especially like your post. This is such a beautiful and unique area, I am going to learn more about what can be done here to be more self-sufficient. I had just been saying to DH this weekend when we had a big storm - there has to be a way to do something with ALL that rain water! I'll be checking out some books at the library on that subject soon!! And welcome to AZ - we are about to enter my favorite time of year here.
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by shakashoe View Post
I'm with bczmama. I've lived long enough to have heard many of these same predictions of doom and gloom that are overblown and cause people to panic. Absolutely you should prepare for hardtimes; YOUR hardtimes. You are much more likely to suffer a job loss, disability, or God forbid, the death of the family breadwinner then for Kunstlers predictions to come true. Shore up your pantry, learn to sew and garden but keep his dire predictions in perspective.
Shakashoe and bczmama -- thanks for your posts. You are right.. it's so easy to get caught up in all this when it seems to make so much sense as I'm reading the book and the other TLE thread in this forum.

I am working on the sewing and I'm planning on building a garden (can't just put it in the earth here in the desert - you have to build it ) when it cools off outside, and putting in seasonal things for each part of the year.

I'm learning a lot from everyone in this forum - keep the advice coming!
post #26 of 27
WeasleyMum, do you ever worry about water here, though? We're out in North Garden and I get concerned sometimes about that, if there ever was a problem.

I've been thinking about you, btw! Hope you're doing well.
post #27 of 27
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Zamber, I especially like your post. This is such a beautiful and unique area, I am going to learn more about what can be done here to be more self-sufficient. I had just been saying to DH this weekend when we had a big storm - there has to be a way to do something with ALL that rain water! I'll be checking out some books at the library on that subject soon!! And welcome to AZ - we are about to enter my favorite time of year here.


I am really super excited about going to live there. I can't wait!!!!! : :
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