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post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by MaterPrimaePuellae View Post
Thank you-- it's nice to know that other people are thinking about this.
Right now, it is my plan to delay the M/M/R until 4 at the youngest. *but* if I decide that giving the R portion is morally okay, should I go ahead and give a dose of it now so as not to run the risk of her infecting a pregnant woman in the next three years? This is a difficult one, because my reasons for vaxing/not vaxing are very different than for the other vaccines. (though, of course, the deleterious side effects of the vax are still at issue)

by the way-- what a cool birth story! Ina May herself!

Bethany

Edited to add: my understanding is that the only rubella vax right now is from aborted fetal tissue; they have tried to come up with others (various animal tissues), but they have 1) not worked and 2)caused severe allergic reactions.
Heh, we can all bang our heads over this issue together.

And thanks, I really like my birth story too.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by hapersmion View Post
That's what I'd prefer to do. But how do you find someone with rubella to share? I'm having enough trouble finding CP. Too bad you can't just order a vial of it to sniff or something. Even apart from the vaccine issues, it would be nice to expose myself before getting pregnant again, to make sure that my old vaccine from when I was a child hasn't worn off.
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The rubella vax must not work very well, since just about every kid I've known has had rubella.
post #23 of 28
In some cases, being vaxed doesn't stop you from being a carrier. This is true of, I believe, IPV and pertussis. (This is based on info I read here.) Even if your DD were vaxed, could she still carry it? And, even if she were vaxed, she might not "benefit" from the vax anyway, as vaxes aren't 100% effective.
post #24 of 28
The rubella vax (if it "takes") prevents transmission.

Unlike IPV and pertussis.
post #25 of 28
For me, I do feel that I need to give my kids the rubella vax ethically. But, I've had five miscarriages. None were caused by rubella since I've had rubella myself. (And it was very mild). If I hadn't experienced so many losses, I might think differently and just got DD vaxed around puberty. However, they don't get the 1/2 year dose. I wait until around 5/6 to avoid a dose.
post #26 of 28
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For me, I do feel that I need to give my kids the rubella vax ethically. But, I've had five miscarriages. None were caused by rubella since I've had rubella myself. (And it was very mild). If I hadn't experienced so many losses, I might think differently and just got DD vaxed around puberty. However, they don't get the 1/2 year dose. I wait until around 5/6 to avoid a dose.
Since your reason for doing this vax is protecting others- how long do you keep them quarantined after? How severe of a quarantine? (only away from pregnant women, away from women who may be pregnant, totally stay home, etc)

-Angela
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by kohlby View Post
For me, I do feel that I need to give my kids the rubella vax ethically. But, I've had five miscarriages. None were caused by rubella since I've had rubella myself. (And it was very mild). If I hadn't experienced so many losses, I might think differently and just got DD vaxed around puberty. However, they don't get the 1/2 year dose. I wait until around 5/6 to avoid a dose.
I don't get it. If you truly felt you were needing to protect others by vaccinating your children what about those unvaccinated 4/5 years? At any point in that time they could have Rubella and pass it on. According to the CDC up to 50% of cases in children are subclinical or asymptomatic. Also since this vax the case load has shifted dramatically towards 15-39 year olds, at around 70% of cases. The ones who need immunity the most do not have it because of the vax.
post #28 of 28
What about those unvaxed years? It's all about benifits vs risks. I feel that the risks are too great to give my kids the MMR as babies. Babies bodies don't metabolize drugs the same as adults. I approach all the vax's with risks vs benifits which is why I don't vax on schedule. Plus, by waiting, I can skip one round of MMR vax completely.

I will quarantine after the MMR. I'll do it during a time of year when we don't get out all that much, like the summer so we will stay at home. (The summer is dreadfully hot here, too hot to go to the park). It's not just pg women. My DH had cancer and he wasn't supposed to be around people who had any live vaccines when he had chemo.
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