Mothering › Forums › Health › Health and Healing › Allergies › Our update, for what it is worth!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Our update, for what it is worth!  

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I haven't posted on the forum for awhile. It is so emotional every time I come here. Plus my dd's eczema and allergies have just totally consumed my life and I'm trying not to let it. The good news is she is so much better right now and is happier, that it is getting easier and easier to just live our life instead of focusing on it. She has worn short sleeves and pants for 6 days in a row now, her first time! :

I've posted when we've had improvements, but we've also had backslides. I've felt angry at times feeling like our practitioner misled me. In reality it is just a tricky thing and she isn't God and is doing her best as well. I've gone back to avoiding foods and am sort of embarrassed by that after what I've posted about not doing elimination diets and about food allergies, so haven't wanted to share. I'll give it to you straight now - in case it can help anyone in any small way.

Some of you are a bit familiar with all we've tried and been through, so I won't go over it here. I'll just say that at her worst, I've been on the phone to a hospital to talk about admitting her due to extensive eczema, but we never did.

Four weeks ago during a visit to our chiro/chinese/accu doc she suggested I go off of dairy and wheat. I was kind of irritated, but did it. Within days of going off of wheat and dairy dd improved dramatically. Keep in mind she still has plenty of spots, but they were intact, not weepy, less red, and much fewer of them. Once she looked that "good" she was like a new palette. All of a sudden, when I ate something, I was able to see a corresponding change. Because new spots would form, usually on the back of her legs. She's always been so riddled before I could never notice anything like that. Well, I threw 2 eggs in the blender for a smoothie and 24 hours later she had new spots, so I took eggs out of my diet. I noticed a correlations with corn so removed that too. In general we avoid soy. But we were at a children's museum that had Odwalla bars. There were free from dairy and wheat so I bought a bunch and ate 4 while we were there. They had soy. 24 hours later, new spots behind her legs. So it was pretty easy to see it was the soy. Right from the beginning, the only thing the doc had told me to avoid was nightshade family (tomatoes, peppers, white potato and eggplant). When when she was at her very worst I had eaten A LOT of salsa and so she figured it was the tomato and peppers.

So now, I'm avoiding the following foods:
Tomato
white potato
peppers (bell, chili)
egg plant
dairy
wheat
corn
soy
eggs

And this morning for instance, she looks the best she's looked since the eczema came back after the NAET. When I was on the total elimination diet of 5 ingredients, I was avoiding ALL of the above, and MORE for 17 days. There was NO improvement for her AT THAT TIME. So I really do believe that she and I have healed some and that things that used to bother her before do not now. I think she may have some slight intolerances to foods that are not on the above list, but as the other major items get out of her system her eczema will continue to heal. And as her gut heals she will continue to be less bothered by the minors and eventually heal to the majors as well.

Since I've cut out the above, the eczema on my hands has finally fully healed as well.

Also, I work 3 days per week and pump, but instead of dd getting my milk, she gets neocate during that time, which she will take. The doc recommended I switch fully to the neocate so she could really heal but I couldn't do it. I took the doc seriously too because she nursed her dds for 4 years - she knew how hard it would be for us but thought it worth it to heal the baby. But I couldn't do it. Now I'm glad I didn't anyways -she is healing. But I fully support any mama who does make the switch for her baby's sake.

Also, we use this clay we got from the doc. She claims it isn't a cure, but my dh believes it is, and it really does seem to soothe, though I'm surprised. It has lanolin, petrolatum, bentonite clay, zinc, camphor, and eucalyptus. We have put in on open sores that look infected. It smells strong and you'd think it would sting, but she gets calm immediately. i think the camphor and eucalyptus fight infection, and I think the zinc promotes healing. I think the lanolin and petrolatum soothe.

We used hydrocotizone ointment as needed for about 2-3 months. It doesn't help long term but short term a bit. She hasn't had any for 3 months.

BTW, I am still on an aspirin a day, so that isn't what was hurting her. I obviously don't avoid foods high in salicylics because the aspirin would be more than the food anyways.

Here are the things our doc has recommended. She has told us SO much over the last 4 months and sometimes changes gears when things aren't working. I've put stuff in the order that I think is the most important. Here is some of what she's said:

*************************
*Chew your food to consistency of baby food.
*Digestive enzymes with every meal, even in between, I use NESS brand, by enyzmes inc, I get from her.
*Cod Liver oil LIQUID (was on capsule, didn't help).
baby gets it too (when I remember)
*Flax oil daily
*kombucha tea. Spendy. I usually make one bottle last over 2-3 days (probiotics through food).
*Power Kraut or Bubbies "real" saur kraut. Drink a tablespoon of the liquid out of the jar every day - one jar will last a while. I also ate a forkful of the kraut every day - it was good! (probiotics through food)
*Three servings COOKED green leafy veggies daily (don't start with three if you don't already eat this way, start with one a day and work up - I never did get to three a day)
*kefir (probiotics through food) although now I'd recommend skipping this and trying to be off of dairy. Or make this your only dairy.
*calcium lactate
*Get sleep (I never could/can but she claimed it vital)
*no cold things in the stomach - I keep my water out of the fridge now.
*Super food (comes in a jar, powdered veggies) I'm not that good about this.
*catalyn

~Tracy
post #2 of 21
What a great update!

I'm wondering something about the salsa you were eating- were you eating it with corn chips? It might have been the corn all along rather than any of the tomatoes or peppers in the salsa. It might be worth slowly and carefully testing those foods individually to see if they really are problematic for her.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi Ruthla!!!

Yes, I think I was eating it with corn chips, now that you mention it! Also, I was having chix fajita salad with a lot of salsa too. Man, it is really hard being without tomato, so I hope you are right. I should see what the pendulum says about it.

How are you and yours?

~Tracy
post #4 of 21
Tracy,

That's fantastic news. I'm so glada you are finally seeing results. Don't feel bad about what you said before. It's true that TED's are hard & not good for you. And where you were it didn't help. I wish my DS's reactions were that obvious. I'm sure I'd be having a much easier time of it if they were.

Anyhow, I hope the healing continues and thanks for sharing your tips.
post #5 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wugmama View Post
I was avoiding ALL of the above, and MORE for 17 days. There was NO improvement for her AT THAT TIME.
If you're dealing with environmental allergies on top of food allergies, it can take longer than that... with my kids, the environmental allergies are just as much a problem with their eczema as the food allergies are.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi Carren!!!

You and your little one are in my thoughts so much. How are you both?

~Tracy
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi Cheryl! I don't know if she has environmental allergies or not. We haven't affected any changes in our environment and she is getting better so I sort of doubt it.

She did have three days a week or two ago where she broke out in hives on her body. We had our carpet cleaned and thought it could be their soap, but aren't sure. The first day we gave her benedryl as they were all over her trunk. The next two days there were only 3 or 4 hives and unbelievably enough the clay took them down, no benedryl! And they haven't returned. So I don't know.

I think it is just food for her, but do know environment can play a role for many.

~Tracy
post #8 of 21
Well his skin looks great but his poops still aren't where they should be and his sleep is awful. I know something is still bugging him but I don't know what. The Ped. did a rast test but everything came up negative. Not surprising. I think these are non-IgE things. I just ordered the ALCAT test kits & both he and I will be tested and see what that reveals.

I think what I need to do is go back on all the gut healing supplements for me and him and just push through the beginning when he seems to get more uncomfortable. I just started him back on bone broth. I'm also starting up CLO. I'm waiting for another probiotic in the mail (by Klaire labs). We'll see what that gets us. And we may start him on an elemental formula to try and get his weight up. He was 17lbs at 11.5 mo. & the ped was not overly ecstatic about that (and neither am I) although developmentally he seems right now. He walks unassisted now and says "mama" and climbs like a bandit.
post #9 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wugmama View Post

I think it is just food for her, but do know environment can play a role for many.
Be mindful of the environmental allergy thing... both of my allergic kids started out with just food allergies, and things have kind of escalated from there. Someone I talked to called it "the allergic march".
post #10 of 21
That is so wonderful!! Can I ask, do you think the CLO capsules didn't work because they weren't being digested properly (like, the capsules weren't breaking down)? What brand do you use, btw?

I'm so happy you're seeing healing! You've had such a rough road. I'm glad your hard work is finally paying off.:
post #11 of 21
my heart aches to read your post. i feel like we have all been through this unreal, bizarre, i-dont-even-have-the-words-to-describe situation. i feel...aged from this. hugs to you and i am so glad that things are improved for your lo. the ted is a rough time and for us, rice and turkey were allergens for lo too!
i dont want to rock your boat at all - i understand the feeling like things are finally going well and then someone tells you to change your plan. but.... is it possible that the neocate could be the source of your remaining eczema patches? the corn syrup solids ( or some other ingredient, poss the small amount of soy?) were a huge problem for us. to the point that I couldnt even drink the stuff without lo reacting badly. just a thought. again, i dont wanna make you feel like running away from this thread and never looking back because it is difficult to have something that works and have someone question it. I am so blessed that my dd has never had weight concerns ( and i do not forget how lucky i am for one instant). so i can only imagine why you want to continue the formula . i am also glad for you that you have a hcp that you trust - i have never even come close to that!
good luck to you and best wishes!!
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi Chinese Pistache!

Thanks, you've been such a support for me! That is a good point about the digestibility of the capsules. Funny thing was that when I was taking too much of the capsules I got bruises all over my body, so felt like I was "getting" the right stuff. That is why I resisted switching to the liquid for so long. I think the brand was ortho-omega, and the chiro we were seeing that sold us to them claimed they were the very best.

The liquid I take is the Norwegian brand, Carlson's I think? The rda is 1 tsp per day. I was taking 2 TBLS, then down to one TBLS. Now I have bruises all over again (like 14 bruises) so am going to go down to 1 tsp. I take an asa per day so between the two, I'm a bleeder!

I really did notice a difference with the baby when I switched to the liquid though, but then again I took flax at the same time, where as before that the flax was intermittent. So it could've been the flax that led to the big improvement.
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi Ellasmama2007,

Thanks for your heartfelt response. I feel really in a good place now though, thankfully! And I didn't even mention that we can actually see a little pudge on the baby now, so that is reassuring!

It actually did cross my mind about the corn in the neocate. But you know the regular formula, with corn, caused her to immediately break out in welts on her head. The neocate doesn't. And I haven't noticed a corresponding worsening after the babysitter had been there and she had the neocate.

I go back and forth between thinking there is something I'm still eating that is bothering her, and thinking that her body is still detoxing from the biggies that really affect her. Right now she has her same spots, the ones that really hang in there, but no new ones for days. Sometimes her spots will look a little brighter red or even seem to expand. But for the most part, she is the same or a little better every day. Her face was the first place to ever get eczema, so I'm thinking that will be the last place to fully heal.

I have a doctor's order for blood testing and could take her in for that, but right after I got that from an allergist (who was very kind to us and gave me a prescription for epi vial for my two little ones, with NO testing, just to allow me to feel "safe") is when we started seeing such improvements, so I'm holding off. I wish I understood more about the test out there, feel I need something to test for intolerances (of which this allergist understood - he gave me a handout about intolerances and how people just need to learn their own comfort level about how much of those foods they can tolerate).

I'll have to spend some more time on the crystal/pendulum testing - I never have the time though, and the little ones want to grab the pendulum!




One of these day's I'm going to post some pics of her.

~Tracy
post #14 of 21
I'm so glad you've had improvement. No matter how you get there. It's a rocky road and learning experience as we go for most of it. And through it all, we all question ourselves and find people who understand and those who don't. It's such a great place here where there's information, support, and other mothers who just say, we've been there too.
post #15 of 21
Hi Tracy, thank you for updating us! I wonder how you are from time to time. I'm so glad things are improving for you and your DD. You perseverance has always been inspiring.
post #16 of 21
Just a thought on her face spots. . . is she crawling and scooting around? It could be irritation from the carpet, especially if her skin is just plain sensitive. Maybe when she's pulling herself up more and keeping her face off the ground, you'll see that lessening.
post #17 of 21
I'm so excited that you guys are doing so good.

Sounds like we're traveling similar paths... I'm finally at the point where I've gotten enough bad foods out of my diet that I can actually tell when DD reacts to a certain food. But in the beginning, she was reacting to so many things at once that it was almost impossible to tell which foods were bad! It's been a long road, but it does feel good to be where we are right now.

post #18 of 21
"I'll have to spend some more time on the crystal/pendulum testing - I never have the time though, and the little ones want to grab the pendulum!"

i have the same prob . i can only do it when she is sleeping, but she is such a light sleeper, i always wake her!
post #19 of 21
I am so happy to hear that you are seeing improvement!
post #20 of 21
wow - we've had a really similar journey, though perhaps not as drastic. I hung out a lot in the healing the gut tribe early on, but it does just consume you, and I needed to get a break from it. And we did the tandem ED route (including SCD, Failsafe and others) for 2 years. We're currently low oxalate, egg, dairy, soy and gluten free and doing pretty well with that. I have similar theories about our breastfeeding journey - I also theorize that my Dd reacted to the histamines my body produced to different foods. Since she's stopped breastfeeding (she's 26 months now) it's eaiser to pinpoint trigger foods, but she's still pretty restricted and things aren't perfect. so, I know we have more to do (especially more gut healing)

I'm interested in the clay you use - can you give me more specifics?

My Dd has awful keratosis pilaris (along with eczema food reactions), and I think it flares related to the toxins her body is trying to flush.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Allergies
This thread is locked  
Mothering › Forums › Health › Health and Healing › Allergies › Our update, for what it is worth!