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post #1 of 12
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I edited the Wiki entry on Michelangelo's David to refer to him as "intact" (which takes you to a page on Genital Integrity) rather than "uncircumcised" (which took you to the page on circumcision). Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_%...yle_and_detail Let's see how long it stays there.
post #2 of 12
Cool. I didn't know that about David.
post #3 of 12
Interesting paragraph from the wiki
"There was controversy over the statue's supposed Biblical reference, since the statue seemed to portray an intact male, whereas the historical King David was undoubtedly circumcised. It was also suggested that this was a conscious decision in Michelangelo's endeavor to emulate the ancient Greek aesthetic ideal, which regarded the circumcised penis as mutilated."
post #4 of 12
Nice edit
post #5 of 12
Corbis, the stock footage provider, has a nice closeup of David's intact penis on their website.

edit: Just search the word penis on www.Corbis.com.

I once saw a picture of a mutilated newborn and the caption was: "...is literally 10 seconds old here!"

Yeah, right! So he was born (pulled from the mother's body) and circ'd all in the first 10 seconds to be held up to have his first picture taken? His glans were bloody red!
post #6 of 12
Awesome!
post #7 of 12
Unless I'm missing it, it's gone now.
post #8 of 12
Interesting. I don't see it now but I did yesterday. I believe it was in the "style & detail" paragraph.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by Night_Nurse View Post
Interesting. I don't see it now but I did yesterday. I believe it was in the "style & detail" paragraph.
I saw it there yesterday too. I wonder who removed it.

I like what you wrote. You did a great job with it. Any chance you copied it and pasted it in your pc open office? If you did, you should enter it in again.
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by fruitful womb View Post
I saw it there yesterday too. I wonder who removed it.

I like what you wrote. You did a great job with it. Any chance you copied it and pasted it in your pc open office? If you did, you should enter it in again.
Here is the section that was removed that the OP modified slightly.

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There was controversy over the statue's supposed [[Bible|Biblical]] reference, since the statue seemed to portray an [[Genital_Integrity|intact]] male, whereas the historical King David was undoubtedly [[circumcision|circumcised]]. <!--the "art historian" needs to be identified:Because of this, some [[art history|art historians]] believed that "David" was actually the name of the 'model' who posed for the statue, rather than King David himself, and that Michelangelo claimed the Biblical reference to make it acceptable to the [[Christendom|Christian world]].--> It was also suggested that this was a conscious decision in Michelangelo's endeavor to emulate the [[Ancient Greece|ancient Greek]] aesthetic ideal, which regarded the circumcised [[penis]] as [[Mutilation|mutilated]].
It was modified by a new editor on the page, Nonaho, who came in, it appears, expressly for the purpose of changing that part. It was a new account that night and the only change made at 22:28, 26 July 2008. What I find interesting is that they didn't simply revert the word but excised the whole paragraph. The wording above was reinstated by yet a different contributor 6 hours later and now there seems to be a back and forth going on between them.

ETA: A whole three minutes after Nonaho's change was reverted, Nonaho again removed it with this comment:
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This is unfounded and complete speculation by one poster who is trying to further an anti-circumcision agendra rather than fact.
ETAA: Here is the latest version, it has been changed at least 6 times since last night.

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The apparently uncircumcised form would be at odds with Judaic practice, but would be consistent with the conventions of Renaissance art.<ref>"Michelangelo and Medicine" [http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...artid=1279184] Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine</ref> It has also been noted that circumcision in the Biblical era was a minor medical procedure which left most of the foreskin intact, and that Michelangelo's depiction was consistent with such a practice.<ref>Circumcision: Then and Now [http://www.cirp.org/library/history/peron2/]</ref>
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Originally Posted by jwhispers View Post
Here is the section that was removed that the OP modified slightly.



It was modified by a new editor on the page, Nonaho, who came in, it appears, expressly for the purpose of changing that part. It was a new account that night and the only change made at 22:28, 26 July 2008. What I find interesting is that they didn't simply revert the word but excised the whole paragraph. The wording above was reinstated by yet a different contributor 6 hours later and now there seems to be a back and forth going on between them.

ETA: A whole three minutes after Nonaho's change was reverted, Nonaho again removed it with this comment:

ETAA: Here is the latest version, it has been changed at least 6 times since last night.
Wow, thats loaded info! Thanks for sharing it. I'm more familiar with the way wiki works now, thanks.

btw, whats there now - good yet I liked the original leila1213 input. It was hardly an agenda. It was good info that needs to be known and apparently ruffled the feathers of this pro-circ Nonaho dude.
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by fruitful womb View Post
I saw it there yesterday too. I wonder who removed it.

I like what you wrote. You did a great job with it. Any chance you copied it and pasted it in your pc open office? If you did, you should enter it in again.
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Originally Posted by fruitful womb View Post
Wow, thats loaded info! Thanks for sharing it. I'm more familiar with the way wiki works now, thanks.

btw, whats there now - good yet I liked the original leila1213 input. It was hardly an agenda. It was good info that needs to be known and apparently ruffled the feathers of this pro-circ Nonaho dude.
Interestingly enough, I think it was a she. During the same time frame she also deleted material from the 'infant formula' page on the wiki which discusses formula feeding in a slightly pejorative tone. As well as a large section from another article.
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