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post #1 of 40
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I am trying to heal this awful cyst on my ovary thrigh various natural ways I have learned.
I have had the cyst for 4 months. I have not been really diligent about cutting out the mucusy foods and other things and doing enough castor oil packs, clay packs, epson salt baths.
I want to heal it so much though!
How long did it take anyone who healed naturally to get rid of it?
Also- any suggestions for good visiualizations on making it go away?
Help me heal this please with your experiences!!!1
post #2 of 40
Thread Starter 
BTW- just so you know my general intention, I have learned that a cyst is an accumulation of mucus. OS I am trying to take in less mucus producing foods, and to also aid my elimination of toxins and mucus through a cleanse.
It is challenging for my self discipline though because it involves cutting out some of my addictions and sensual pleasures- coffee, any dabbeling on smoking, cheese, dairy, etc
post #3 of 40
So you went ahead with the ultrasound? Was it bad? I was very scared before my first, but totally relieved at how not-scary it was in reality.

What sort of cyst is it? Since you're saying it's mucous, does that mean it's a corpus luteum cyst? They do spontaneously go away a lot of the time, unlike dermoids or endometriomas.
post #4 of 40
Is your cyst causing you pain? I had a cyst on my left ovary that was causing me almost constant pain. My family practice doc wasn't much help (other than ordering an ultrasound) so I went to an alternative doc (osteopath) and she suggested trying an anti-inflammatory supplement called MSM, Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane, also known as organic sulfur. I started taking this and the pain went away the very first day, and the cyst dissolved and has not caused me any problems since. This was a year ago. I use a brand of MSM called Rich's. Start slow and low on the dosage at first, and it's good to take it with Vit C.
post #5 of 40
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I opted out of the u/s. It does hurt still(the cyst). I am trying to heal it through food and really wanting to fast- but haven't made it yet. I stopped coffee and another bad habit finally- and it hurts less- and I am basically simplifying my foods as much as I can- no sugar, refined carbs or caffeine or dairy.
So I hope this will eork. the practicioners I have seen all suck, I must say!
The gynos only want to do an ultrasound- which I do not want to do!
The natropath I saw was a dunce ( sorry but true!)
So I am trying to heal myself.
I would like to look into that MSM supplement-
I have just heard from books and such that a cyst is generally an accumulation of mucus.
I honestly don't know what I have- I just know it hurts worse when I eat sugar and dairy and coffee, and the days I did a raw food diet it hurt less.

I am also trying to get pregnant for almost a year now with no luck.
I have bad feelings about docs- I do not have a good one I trust and they usually don't tell me anything I don't already know.
Sad but true.

So I am essentially trying to cleanse my system overall to hope to clear out the cyst and to become fertile

I get more help from mdc than from doctors so far!

I will look into the Methyl Sulfonyl Methane- Wildiris what does it actualy do to the body?

I do have a good chinese med doc I see sometimes and he dud say it was a small watery cyst and recommended cleaning out the digestive system and liver and kidneys- I am going to try to see him again.

It is so HARSH cause we are trying to get a baby and all I got was an ovarian cyst! Wahh
I am determined to heal and conceive though, and as naturally as possible. Personally, I am scared of all hightech machines in my body. If I can live a long healthy life without ever having an ultrasound the better!
post #6 of 40
But Katie, how do you know it's a cyst without an ultrasound? And assuming it's a cyst, how do you know it's benign, and how do you know it's a functional cyst, not an endometrioma?
post #7 of 40
Well I had a big dermoid cyst a couple years ago. It was certainly not an accumulation of mucous - it had hair and teeth!

Anyways I suggest making sure you know what kind of cyst you're dealing with before opting out of medical treatment. Unchecked, a dermoid can consume your entire ovary (I know, I lost mine).
post #8 of 40
I agree with the last two posters.

I am coming from the point of view I know two woman that had cysts. The one womans was the size of a softball. She was in alot of pain. She had surgery to remove the cyst and the ovary. I don't remember if it was cancerous. I don't believe so. Because I don't recall any additional treatment after the surgery. But you know what? She was pregnant 6 months after surgery. : She went on to have three children on one ovary! I remember her husband had told the doctor to take it all out. But the Doctor (OB/GYN) was very optomistic that she could get pregnant. Which is awesome because she had just remarried. She had a child from her first marriage and her new husband didn't have any. They wanted children very badly. So please, if this is your fear of losing an ovary, there is still possibility of getting pregnant.

The other friend had a large cyst as well. Hers turned out to be cancerous. She did have a hysterectomy. But they didn't want any children anyway. So it wasn't a big concern for her. Her Mother had survived Ovarian Cancer. Oh and my friend has been cancer free for over 7 years now! :

Just another perspective on this.

post #9 of 40
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Originally Posted by wannabe View Post
But Katie, how do you know it's a cyst without an ultrasound? And assuming it's a cyst, how do you know it's benign, and how do you know it's a functional cyst, not an endometrioma?
I don't know, actually! But I do not want an ultrasound. It seems like someone ought to be able to diagnose me without the ultrasound?
post #10 of 40
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IS there another way to diagnose without an ultrasound?
post #11 of 40
I've had cysts before. Usually they were small and burst by themselves during the beginning of my menstrual cycle, which hurts like h*ll. But I think those are normal menstrual cycle overproduction.

The other cyst I had never caused me pain, but it was softball size. They found it during my son's c/s. It was the size of a softball, full of liquid, and had begun twisting around the ovary. The docs were able to get it out while saving the ovary. They said had I not had the c/s, I would have been back in the hospital in a few days hemorrhaging, I would have lost the ovary and possibly my life. Also, I had numerous ultrasounds during that pregnancy (they thought I might have incompetent cervix due to my history), and the skilled technician NEVER saw it.

Please just get an ultrasound. If it turns out to be the liquid variety, then go with what you are doing now. If it isn't, it's better to find out sooner rather than later.

Ami
post #12 of 40
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IS there another way to diagnose without an ultrasound?
Nope. Unless you want to do explorative surgery. They need to be able to see if it is liquid filled or solid. The cyst will feel hard no matter what it is made of during a physical examination. Hth

Ami
post #13 of 40
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IS there another way to diagnose without an ultrasound?
Surgery is the only other option I can think of. I don't think there are any blood tests that can used. But you might ask that question.

Hmm what about a CT scan?
post #14 of 40
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But I thouhgt ovarian cysts were really common! I felt it start- at ovulation 4 months ago- felt the o pain and then cramps. And then it has hurt for 4 months off and on. Sems to hurt more when I drink coffee or eat sugar and less when I don't.
so I just made an appointment with a natropathic doctor to see what she has to say.
If a cyst gets so big like a softball, can't you feel it pushing on your abdomen?

How do I know if this is a cyst actually?
I just really hate electronic invasive procedures. I read that an u/s heats up the tissue and that scares me.
UGH.
And I am ttc and I want to keep my yoni pure if I can.

Anyone think its ok to not have the u/s?
what did women do to dignose a cyst before u/s's were so common?
post #15 of 40
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post #16 of 40
Thread Starter 
Well somehow my body is scared of the ultrasound- but reading this thread did make me want to get more HELP. So I made 2 appointments- one w- a chinese doc and one with a natropath.
so atleast I can see what they say.
post #17 of 40
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Originally Posted by Katie34 View Post
But I thouhgt ovarian cysts were really common! I felt it start- at ovulation 4 months ago- felt the o pain and then cramps. And then it has hurt for 4 months off and on. Sems to hurt more when I drink coffee or eat sugar and less when I don't.
so I just made an appointment with a natropathic doctor to see what she has to say.
If a cyst gets so big like a softball, can't you feel it pushing on your abdomen?

How do I know if this is a cyst actually?
I just really hate electronic invasive procedures. I read that an u/s heats up the tissue and that scares me.
UGH.
And I am ttc and I want to keep my yoni pure if I can.

Anyone think its ok to not have the u/s?
what did women do to dignose a cyst before u/s's were so common?
Yes, ovarian cysts can be aggravated with bad diet. And they are very common. In fact, the egg that is released during ovulation was in a cyst. You make multiple cysts (though very tiny ones) during each cycle, only one of which will break and release a fertile egg. It's the ones that choose to hang around that are some cause for concern.
That being said, an u/s will just check to make sure if it's a common one that shouldn't cause any concern or whether its one that needs more treatment. In general small cysts can cause pain, but because they're small most gynos won't do anything about them unless they get really big. In which case, surgery is safer than doing nothing, since, if it were to burst, hemorrhaging would occur.

Most women probably did nothing unless the cyst became huge. Even then, there are stories of women living with huge fibroids too, so I don't think that would help much. If it's a watery cyst, most of the time, it will go away on its own. If it is solid, it won't and you (figurative you, not you, lol) would be stuck with the pain for life unless you went in for surgery.

The cyst won't interfer with your ttc, at least, it doesn't with me. As for the u/s causing your yoni to be impure--the u/s technician will only be looking at your ovary, not your uterus. Since they know where the cyst is, they will focus their attention there. You can also ask them to only look there. Also, if it's causing you pain, your body is telling you to get it checked out. For the record, I am terrified of surgery. I was forced into the c/s because I had been in labor for 22 hours and they wouldn't let me go longer. It was only when the c/s was over that they found it.

As for feeling it, I was pregnant the whole time, so all the pulling achiness I attributed to ds. And my dad had appendicitis without knowing he did (funny story: he was serving his mandatory term in the greek military & pretended to have stomach pains. Doc said he had to have surgery. Dad couldn't argue without risking imprisonment, so went through with it. That's where they found the almost rupturing appendix).

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Did you find any remedies that worked for these? Maybe they would work for the cyst's that linger?

I figured it was a cyst just from the location and type of pain, but the u/s confirmed it. I wouldn't want to do remedies for a cyst and then find out that a cyst was not causing the pain.
Other than eating well, not really. I also read somewhere that cysts are common when one's creative juices are held back. In my case I can see that as a pattern. During the whole pregnancy, due to my first late miscarriage, I wasn't allowed to do a lot of things. Things like starting my own business, walking, etc. I was also scared because I didn't know the cause for my first loss, so I didn't allow myself to even feel excited & happy about my baby until I was about 34 weeks along. So I think that had a large part to play in my giant cyst.

Ami
post #18 of 40
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II will look into the Methyl Sulfonyl Methane- Wildiris what does it actualy do to the body?
Do a google search on MSM or organic sulfur and you will come up with tons of interesting information. I researched it before I started using it but that was over a year ago and I haven't saved the links. MSM has been credited with helping many different painful and debilitating conditions. It's an excellent anti-inflammatory, for one thing. When I reported back to my Osteopath that the pain from my ovarian cyst had stopped literally the very first day I took the MSM, she said it had something to do with affecting my prostaglandins...but it was too long ago and I can't recall exactly how she explained it, sorry. But you will find tons of info if you google it.

My two cents on the ultrasound is I don't know why you would hesitate to get a u/s... it would be good for you to know exactly what you're dealing with.

I wish you all the best.

Iris
post #19 of 40
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Well I had a big dermoid cyst a couple years ago. It was certainly not an accumulation of mucous - it had hair and teeth!
Mine too, and a 1 inch bone! I had it removed in May (I lost the ovary and tube with it because I waited so long to get it checked).
post #20 of 40
If your cyst is large enough, it can be felt by a competant physician during a vaginal exam. They may have to do a rectal exam too because the ovaries are better felt through the rectum. But that is only if the cyst is large enough. And it will in no way tell them what kind of cyst you have.

Functional cysts are extremely common, but if you are having constant pain and it has been going on for months then you really need to get an ultrasound and see what is going on inside.

Not all cysts are mucous. I also had a dermoid removed a few years ago and it was full of all sorts of nasty things. I had mine removed six weeks after the initial u/s that found it and I still lost 90% of my ovary.

Currently I have two masses in my right ovary. They are causing such debilitating pain that I cannot get up off of my bed or couch most days - let alone enjoy my life or my kids or anything. They are solid and my gynecologist and I won't know for sure what they are until they are removed in another week or so. They are sizable enough that we are very concerned about a torsion. Because they are big and solid and have grown very very quickly, the word "cancer" has come up in many conversations with my physician. The chance is small, but without knowing some of the information we do from u/s, he might not be as aggressive with these masses as he is.

If you are TTC, you owe it to yourself to get an ultrasound and see if what you have is something that could hinder the process. The last thing you want is to ignore it further and risk a torsion or ruprture or other complication that could impair your fertility forever.
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