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post #21 of 40
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Originally Posted by Mavournin View Post
If your cyst is large enough, it can be felt by a competant physician during a vaginal exam. They may have to do a rectal exam too because the ovaries are better felt through the rectum. But that is only if the cyst is large enough. And it will in no way tell them what kind of cyst you have.

Functional cysts are extremely common, but if you are having constant pain and it has been going on for months then you really need to get an ultrasound and see what is going on inside.

Not all cysts are mucous. I also had a dermoid removed a few years ago and it was full of all sorts of nasty things. I had mine removed six weeks after the initial u/s that found it and I still lost 90% of my ovary.

Currently I have two masses in my right ovary. They are causing such debilitating pain that I cannot get up off of my bed or couch most days - let alone enjoy my life or my kids or anything. They are solid and my gynecologist and I won't know for sure what they are until they are removed in another week or so. They are sizable enough that we are very concerned about a torsion. Because they are big and solid and have grown very very quickly, the word "cancer" has come up in many conversations with my physician. The chance is small, but without knowing some of the information we do from u/s, he might not be as aggressive with these masses as he is.

If you are TTC, you owe it to yourself to get an ultrasound and see if what you have is something that could hinder the process. The last thing you want is to ignore it further and risk a torsion or ruprture or other complication that could impair your fertility forever.
I will be thinking of you.
post #22 of 40
Katie, what scares you about the ultrasound? Is there anything we can reassure you about with regard to it?

They can see a bit with a transabdominal, definitely enough to see if it's fluid filled or solid. It's not a great image, but if you can't bear transvaginal then it would be better than nothing.
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Surgery is the only other option I can think of. I don't think there are any blood tests that can used. But you might ask that question.

Hmm what about a CT scan?
They do use CT scans for complex cysts, but I understand the contrast dye hurts (it's an IV), and it's multiple x-rays, which is far more dangerous and invasive than ultrasound.
post #23 of 40
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If a cyst gets so big like a softball, can't you feel it pushing on your abdomen?
Nope, my endometrioma was that big and I was none the wiser. Not even any pain from that one. The one that burst, though. yikes!
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How do I know if this is a cyst actually?
I just really hate electronic invasive procedures. I read that an u/s heats up the tissue and that scares me.
UGH.
And I am ttc and I want to keep my yoni pure if I can.

Anyone think its ok to not have the u/s?
what did women do to dignose a cyst before u/s's were so common?
You don't know if it's a cyst or something else, that's why they like to look before they do surgery. What if you get pregnant and it turns out to be something you need surgery on whilst pregnant?

It's absolutely up to you to decide what you want to do, so of course it's OK to not have the U/S.

Personally I would want to maximise my odds ttc ASAP and rule out ovarian cancer.
post #24 of 40
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I am pretty sure it is a functional ovarian cyst. I actually felt it start, the day I ovulated about 4 cycles back. ( I was charting since we are ttc so I knew the exact day of O).
I had cramps on the right side a week later- and then the pain kindof just stayed there.
It is not excruciating debillitating pain, unless I drink a lot of coffee and eat a lot of sugar- but even then it just hurts but not excruciating.
Mostly it is annoying- sort of painful.
I have had bad experiences with what I call "western medicine" and vowed to try the gentlest methods possible to heal myself from now on.

The u/s just seems scary to me- like I would go through it and they would say, yup its a functional cyst.
I went to a chinese doc who is very reputable when it started and he said it is a newly formed, small watery cyst. So that felt pretty clear.
I was then trying to heal on my own with raw food or fasting but it all felt too confusing and scary!
So finally- I have a number of different appointments this week:
One with the same chinese doc, one with a natropath, one with a friend who does craniosacral work and knows a lot about the body.
And one I just made which seems the most hopefully helpful- with a great body-worker, acupuncturist, healer guy.

I am doing the path of least harm that I can to take care of myself. I do not think it is anything other than what they call a functional cyst and I just have this instinctive fear of the u/s.
So I am trying to listen to that!

Thanks so much for all the advice everyone.
My hope at the moment is that I can see this healer guy ( and I will see the other people too to get their opinions) and come up with a cleansing healing plan for my whole system that will help me to heal the cyst and then CONCEIVE a lovely baby.
I will let you guys know what happens.
post #25 of 40
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Originally Posted by wannabe View Post
They do use CT scans for complex cysts, but I understand the contrast dye hurts (it's an IV), and it's multiple x-rays, which is far more dangerous and invasive than ultrasound.
Sometimes they use MRIs too. I actually feel asleep during mine it was so easy. But I get the feeling that if the OP is refusing ultrasound that she'll probably not consider putting herself in a magnetic field.

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Originally Posted by Katie34 View Post
I am pretty sure it is a functional ovarian cyst. I actually felt it start, the day I ovulated about 4 cycles back. ( I was charting since we are ttc so I knew the exact day of O).
I had cramps on the right side a week later- and then the pain kindof just stayed there.
It is not excruciating debillitating pain, unless I drink a lot of coffee and eat a lot of sugar- but even then it just hurts but not excruciating.
Mostly it is annoying- sort of painful.
I have had bad experiences with what I call "western medicine" and vowed to try the gentlest methods possible to heal myself from now on.
The u/s just seems scary to me- like I would go through it and they would say, yup its a functional cyst.

I went to a chinese doc who is very reputable when it started and he said it is a newly formed, small watery cyst. So that felt pretty clear.
How did he diagnose this cyst?

Frankly, a functional cyst should not be taking over four months to go away. Even if it is only midly annoying, it has still been a long time and considering that most people rarely feel small functional cysts I think you should reconsider your plans.

That said though, as I stated in my previous post, I have a lot of history with ovarian cysts. Besides my surgery and the current problems, I've had several ruptures and countless cysts of almost every variety. I found that helped the most, especially when I wanted to heal so I could have a baby, was acupuncture. My practicioner was amazing and had healed herself from ovarian cysts with Chinese medicine so she really knew what she was talking about. I went religiously for a few months and the amazing product of my diligence is driving his Thomas trains all over my laptop as I write this. It can be done, but I still strongly advocate for having as much information as possible. An ultrasound might be a small price to pay for that, especially if this continues for much longer.
post #26 of 40
Thread Starter 
Mavournin what you say makes a lot of sense- it is strange that it has hurt for four straight months now.
And at the first month I had a gyno exam and she put her hand up and said if it were big enough to hurt it would be big enough to feel and she didn't feel it.
UGH.
I met w- a natropath today and she couldn't diagnose it.
I see a cranio-sacral worker tomorrow, and an acupuncturist the next day and my chinese med doc on Monday!
If by the end of all that I still don't know what it is I will get the u/s
I was just trying to be careful.

Also- I AM REALLY SCARE TO POSSIBLY FIND OUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING HORRIBLE!!!!

Someone help me with this, please. I think this is atleast 50% of the reason I have not gotten the u/s.
If it is something horriblr I almost would rather not know.

SIGH.
Four months of this weird'o pain.

The other confusing thing is that sometimes it feel lower than the ovary- in the pubic region.
sigh.

Are u/s's really not that bad?!!!
post #27 of 40
Thread Starter 
UPDATE
Okay- so I am starting to think this may not be a cyst after all! So finally- I made an appointment with a New gynocologist for Tuesday. ( my old one was just not at all helpful really, which is why I had been trying to figure this out on my own)
they talked to me on the phone and I am going to get a thorough exam and then they will determine if I need an u/s or not and will FINALLY help me solve this yuck mystery!
I am psyched cause it has been really annoying and hurtful plus we are ttc so I want to get this cleared up first- plus they are getting me in at a good time of my cycle that won't disrupt ttc.
though of course I want to clear this before becomming with babe.

But they and the natropath suggested it could possibly be an infection off sorts. ( risidual from an std though I never knew of any stds so far- but I imagine they will test)

Oh I hope it is diagnosed and something minor and easily fixable!
Because I have been trying to do this diet to support cleansing an ovarian cyst- but it is takng away lots of yummy foods ( bread and cheese which I love)
anyway- I pray it is something minor and fixable.
I will post here after my appointment.
Thanks for all the help everyone.
This board is great!
Really full of women helping women.
Love,
Katie
post #28 of 40
Thread Starter 
I am going to FOUR different health practicioners in the next week.
I am starting to thinkI hvae some kind of parasite or infection.
I am also having massive digestion issues and feel sick and weird. UGH!
I am so glad to finally be on the way to figuring this out ( andbefore I conceive too)
post #29 of 40
Well I am in the "US are not bad" camp. I have no problems with having ultrasounds. I have even allowed them on my 2 year old. Which were absolutely necessary.

I hope you get your answer soon.
post #30 of 40
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And at the first month I had a gyno exam and she put her hand up and said if it were big enough to hurt it would be big enough to feel and she didn't feel it.
That's BS. I grow huge freaking cysts and no one can ever feel them during an exam. Granted I'm sorta fluffy, but still... And I certainly feel the small ones just as much as I feel my big ones. You, like myself, are probably just very in tune with your body.

I can understand how you feel like it's becoming something much larger and scary. Back away from Dr. Google and relax. ((hugs))
post #31 of 40
Thread Starter 
I had an appontment today with a body worker- healer and she also recommended the ultrasound. I have an appointment with the new gynocologist on Tuesday and thewy have u/s facilities there so I will finally get one.
So I will know.
The woman I saw today said she thinks I have a hernia! SHEESH> AN INGUINAL HERNIA!
this is a bit maddening.
It seems like surgery is a common treatment- which I do not want.

strange.
But I don't know until I get the u/s so I really will get it this time cause I really need to know.
I am 90% sure this is not a cyst after all.
Don't know if it is a hernia.

All I wanted was to get pregnant ( pity party) and instead I got this- boo hoo-
okay- whining out of the way- I hope I find a peaceful healing solution.
post #32 of 40
How did it go today?
post #33 of 40
Thinking of you.
post #34 of 40
Couldn't read and not post.
post #35 of 40
Thread Starter 
I feel like I am such a spazz on this thread- a hernia! A cyst ! Argh!

Here is my Update-

I had been SCARED to get the u/s but all you nice people plus many in person people I talked to assured me that it was fine. So I am now eager to get one- ony thing is now I simply have to wait for a schedule opening- which is about 10 more days away.

I was given a chance to get one at the hospital yesterday as opposed to the gyno office- and I went in the door of the hospital and my skin started to crawl and I booked out the door. I am not a fan of hospitals.
So I figured I have waited this long I can wait another week to get it in the calm gynocologist office.

However- I went back to my chinese doctor and he said it is definately an ovarian cyst. He even said if we cant get rid of it w- his herbs and stuff then I wil need to have surgery. scary. I am not going there now.
We are trying 2-3 months of herb treatment.

Furthermore, my basic health problem is that I have way way too many dental surgeries in a 2 year period- and my body got over toxified with novocaine and other things dental surgery related.
My doctor ( chinese doc) said that this is why my uterus and ovaries are VERY weak and I am unable to conceive. He said I need to stop ttc for now and focus on cleaning out the cyst and strengthen my organs.
I said- will I ever be able to conceive, and will I ever be in full health again?

He said- I don't know.
That freaked me out! But I am of course feeling hopeful again.

So now- I decided to do more to detox this old dental surgery stuff from my body. Also, once I have the u/s I can know the specifics of my condition and know how to treat it.
It hurts and then I forget about it, but somehtig is definately wacky. He said because we were trying to make a baby I was drawing a lot of attention and energy there. He said I need to try to be happy and think less about my body now.

So the new thing I am adding is regular saunas. I did my first one yesterday and I am gong again today. this holistic clinic around here has a infared sauana.
I did 1/2 hour in there yesterday and it was amazing. I am hoping this will help me to detox these old toxins. My doctor said I do not really need to change my diet as my problems are more from the risidual dental surgery toxins residing in my organs, and my diet is good.


So this is where I am at. I am glad I did not do the u/s yesterday cause it was so scary to be in the hospital. But I am looking forward to doing it soon. And I am doing chinese herbs with a VERY reputable doctor for now, plus compresses. I am stopping ttc for a few months and trying to be happy.

I pray to heal and I pray that if it is in fact a cyst tjat it is the least dangerous and least troublesome kind, filled with water.

Thanks
post #36 of 40
Thread Starter 
Also, after I do this stuff for a while I may look into accupuncture. the hardest thing about that seems to be finding a reputable accupuncturist.
post #37 of 40
Katie,

Hope you are doing alright.
post #38 of 40
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Originally Posted by imagine21 View Post
Katie,

Hope you are doing alright.
Ditto. Did you ever get the u/s?
post #39 of 40
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Ditto. Did you ever get the u/s?
She did, and there was no cyst. She updated on another thread

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=957584
post #40 of 40
Hello, I have pain from a cyst in my right ovary.the ultra sound said I have 2 small functional cysts and a uterine fibroid.I am nervous cause I have had pain for 4 months now. I'm trying to take all kinds of natural suplements and eat organic and not drink from plastics. I have been on this healthy diet for a few weeks now. How long do I wait before going back to my health care provider if I still have pain? Any sugestions ? I would really like to try to concieve soon but I want to take care of this pain first. Im really scare about surgery so I'm trying to do everything i can not to get to that point. Thanks,Sarah
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