August IUIs - Page 6

[by-the-lake]

Jazcat- I will probobly be Sunday this week. I have a u/s this Friday, trigger, and IUI Sun morning. Unless I have an LH surge, which would screw up my plans, but no less, and IUI this weekend. Then we can 2WW obsess together!

[jazcat]

Cool. I have a feeling I'm going to be turbo obsessing this time...really hanging my hopes on this cycle.

To kick off the obsessing, we BD'ed -6 and -3 days before ovulation. I've been debating whether to do it tonight as well, which would add a -1 day before ovulation. But I don't want to jeopardize the sperm count/quality for tomorrow's IUI. Hmmmmmmm.....

Have you started the OPKs?

Originally Posted by natrualmom

Jazcat- I will probobly be Sunday this week. I have a u/s this Friday, trigger, and IUI Sun morning. Unless I have an LH surge, which would screw up my plans, but no less, and IUI this weekend. Then we can 2WW obsess together!

[by-the-lake]

I will start OPKs Wed, because tomorrow is my last day of Letrazole. Well, as far as BDing today, that might lower counts for tomorrows IUI. Is there MFI?
As for us, it does not matter if we BD, DH is anejaculatory, and our swimmers are in the freezer!

[jazcat]

There might be a little MFI. Sperm analysis from 4 years ago indicated not-so-great morphology. But we only had that one s/a done. I also have concerns about the super hot springs we were in for a few days last month. Guess we'll find out tomorrow how things look.

What's the Letrazole for? Forgive my ignorance.

Originally Posted by natrualmom

I will start OPKs Wed, because tomorrow is my last day of Letrazole. Well, as far as BDing today, that might lower counts for tomorrows IUI. Is there MFI?
As for us, it does not matter if we BD, DH is anejaculatory, and our swimmers are in the freezer!

[by-the-lake]

Jazcat- Letrazole is like clomid, to induce ovulation. I have a perfectly regular cycle, ovulation on day 20, af 14 days later between the hours of 0500-0600 a.m. However, since we only have a limited amount of swimmers, we are trying to refine the timing with letrazole an trigger shot. And Letrazole is not as commonly used as clomid, so lots of people have not heard of it (I hadn't either)

[jazcat]

Just back from the IUI. The IUI itself was great. Even the scapula thingy I could barely feel. No pressure at all when she put the stuff up there. Said my cervix was wide open. 10 Million and super motile. Took about 2 min, then another 15 min resting on my back and I then I was outta there.

Now the drama - the collection. I had the brilliant idea of using a male pak condom. If you haven't seen these before, they are sterile condoms that have no affect on sperm. They're made just for IUI's and such. I had read somewhere that using these condoms, as opposed to masterbation or whatever, produces a better sample.

So we used it this morning, but we got a very poor sample, or I should say small sample. And of course we lost some when transferring it to the cup. So we ended up with a small small sample, which my husband was sure was tainted with bacteria. I felt like crying. But off I went to the doctor's with the cup tucked under my pants.

Dropped off the sample and they said come back in an hour. I went to check in an hour later, at which time I thought for sure they'd tell me we'd have to cancel it. But I paid, proceeded to the exam room and mentioned my doubts to the doctor. When she told me it was PLENTY with a 10mil count and great motility, I can't tell you how I felt....joy joy joy.

Sorry for the long post. This will all seem a bit silly tomorrow, but this morning, it was a major low to a major high. And of course now I'm worrying whether my "wide open" cervix will steer the little guys off their course. One more BD when DH gets home, and then the waiting game begins!

[soc]

Originally Posted by jazcat

Just back from the IUI. The IUI itself was great. Even the scapula thingy I could barely feel. No pressure at all when she put the stuff up there. Said my cervix was wide open. 10 Million and super motile. Took about 2 min, then another 15 min resting on my back and I then I was outta there.

That is great news! That's the way it is supposed to be! Glad to hear it all went well for you (except for the minor panic attack in the morn). Your hubbie's sample had excellent numbers! I really hope you bag that BFP!

Originally Posted by blueyezz4

So do you think you will test early or do you have some mad will power????!!!! I wish I did, but I don't. I think I may start towards the end of next week, but I'll not get hopes up until it is officially the 2nd. We will see

I dunno about testing early... TBH I'm too scared to see a BFN. The way I see it, if AF shows, you have to deal with it there and then... while a BFN could hang around for days before AF comes - adding to the horribleness of pre-AF blues, IYKWIM. But, I'm gonna think positive thoughts - and that a little spermie bagged themselves a nice egg, and that the two of them have done there thing, and are getting nice and comfy and settling in for a nice 9-month journey :

Originally Posted by blueyezz4

So since we did our IUI last week I've been kinda afraid to dtd (just for fun that is) b/c for some reason i'm afraid that if I do have a sticky one in there by dtd it might cause like contractions of my uterus and dislodge the little egg or something. I know that sounds funny, but does anyone else feel weird about dtd after a procedure like this???

Personally it doesn't bother me. In fact the RE told me to have lots of 'sexual intercourse' . I know that was to give us an extra chance of catching the egg... but if it was bad to do, at a certain point in my cycle, I'm sure they would have mentioned it!

As for symptoms:
* for the last day or two, I felt a bit crampy on and off throughout the day. It is a sort of stitch-like pain.
* earlier today I had a slight backache on my lower right-hand side
* I've been peeing more frequently - but I'm just putting that down to the amount of water I'm drinking

I'm trying my best not to get my hopes up too high, but at the same time trying to think positively.

How's about everyone else? Any symptoms to report?

[by-the-lake]

Jazcat- Wide open cervix? Woohoo!!! That means your body is taking applicants for the baby making project! Really, though, I think thats a great sign your timing is right on.

[jazcat]

Thanks Yeah, I do feel our timing was right on. If we don't get a BFP this cycle, I think we're on to IVF. I don't have any reason to believe that another IUI would work if this one doesn't. Might be implantation issues, which IVF might be able to conquer. Speaking of implantation issues....

Do you think supplementing with progesterone cream would do any good? I'm already on 50mg of Clomid - it's my understanding Clomid raises your progesterone level. What do you think? My last progesterone test was 11.4, which is pretty borderline IMO, but the doctor wasn't the slightest concerned.

Originally Posted by natrualmom

Jazcat- Wide open cervix? Woohoo!!! That means your body is taking applicants for the baby making project! Really, though, I think thats a great sign your timing is right on.

[jazcat]

I hope we both do! I think you're about a week ahead of me, which means less than a week left for you....yay!

I don't know if this helps, but there was a large study done showing that 84% of women implant between 8 and 10 days past ovulation. Of course we've all read stories about 6DPO BFPs, as well as 23DPO BFPs.

Originally Posted by soc

That is great news! That's the way it is supposed to be! Glad to hear it all went well for you (except for the minor panic attack in the morn). Your hubbie's sample had excellent numbers! I really hope you bag that BFP!


As for symptoms:
* for the last day or two, I felt a bit crampy on and off throughout the day. It is a sort of stitch-like pain.
* earlier today I had a slight backache on my lower right-hand side
* I've been peeing more frequently - but I'm just putting that down to the amount of water I'm drinking

I'm trying my best not to get my hopes up too high, but at the same time trying to think positively.

[by-the-lake]

Jazcat- I am not sure about the progesterone cream. Google it in this Mothering website; there is some useful info here. I have been taking Prometruim orally the last 2 IUI's, day after IUI. Prometrium is a natural progesterone, suppose to be superior to the creams. However, it makes me rather crazy, and I am going to ask for something else this cycle!

[blueyezz4]

Jazcat - Sounds like your IUI was a piece of cake and my : for you!! Sorry to hear about your "drama" in the morning. Glad to hear you didn't need 3 people to finally get it in and it wasn't ice cold like Soc's experienced. About your progesterone question... What was your lining at when you had your CD 12 U/S do you know?? Mine was 7.4 and I asked if i should use progesterone after our IUI and they didn't think I needed to use it. They said they usually only have women use it if you have a history of m/c or losses. Good luck. I'll be watching your chart if you have one (i forgot to look).

Soc - I totally hear you when you say..."I'm trying my best not to get my hopes up too high, but at the same time trying to think positively". That is totally me too!! I get nervous even taking my temp in the morning b/c I don't want to see it drop. What i really should do is not temp at all, but I've done it so long it is hard to stop.

natrualmom - Good luck this weekend with your IUI. Hope it all goes well. Be sure to keep us updated.

[Angi]

Here is a newbie question: I know that progesterone can help with the lining. What does it do for lengthening to LP? At the last IUI, my lining was "excellent" according to the tech. I would have to look back, but it was around 10 or so. I think I'm having LP length issue. This cycle it was only 6 days. The last couple of months it's been averaging 11. A few days after the IUI, they ran some blood tests and put me on a progesterone supplement (and not the easy way) so I guess my levels dropped.

I'm doing another IUI next month, and was wondering about asking to go on it right away. I have my u/s on the 7th to check follicles, so was going to bring it up at that time. And I remember from the last IUI that I started feeling crampy on the Progesterone, like my period was just waiting to happen, and it did within 36 hours of the last suppository. Would starting progesterone right away help, do you think? I need advice from the wise.

[jazcat]

I didn't get my lining checked this time, but the first time I was on clomid I did and it was fine. I've never had a miscarriage, or chemical pregnancy that was detected. But I wonder if every cycle I've got a fertilized egg that just won't implant at all.

Does anyone think it could hurt in any way if I take a little progesterone cream? I'm thinking not a full dose, but maybe half. I've got the kind with a measured pump.

Originally Posted by blueyezz4

Jazcat -About your progesterone question... What was your lining at when you had your CD 12 U/S do you know?? Mine was 7.4 and I asked if i should use progesterone after our IUI and they didn't think I needed to use it. They said they usually only have women use it if you have a history of m/c or losses. Good luck. I'll be watching your chart if you have one (i forgot to look).

[jazcat]

I don't remember reading that progesterone helps to lengthen the LP. But I don't really know. You might want to check out Maca. There's other things, but I'm not remembering right now. Sorry I can't be more help.

Originally Posted by Angi

Here is a newbie question: I know that progesterone can help with the lining. What does it do for lengthening to LP? At the last IUI, my lining was "excellent" according to the tech. I would have to look back, but it was around 10 or so. I think I'm having LP length issue. This cycle it was only 6 days. The last couple of months it's been averaging 11. A few days after the IUI, they ran some blood tests and put me on a progesterone supplement (and not the easy way) so I guess my levels dropped.

I'm doing another IUI next month, and was wondering about asking to go on it right away. I have my u/s on the 7th to check follicles, so was going to bring it up at that time. And I remember from the last IUI that I started feeling crampy on the Progesterone, like my period was just waiting to happen, and it did within 36 hours of the last suppository. Would starting progesterone right away help, do you think? I need advice from the wise.

[jazcat]

Ok, Fertility Friend is seriously flawed. No matter what I do, I can't get it to say I ovulated yesterday. It wants to make it two days ago. I even checked that box that says Ovulation under Custom. Anyone know how I can trick it?

[songbird45]

I'm not sure I'd use progesterone cream without knowing what my post-O progerone levels were... I think you have to keep using it through the first trimester if you start (because dropping progesterone levels can trigger a m/c), and it might delay your period if you're not pg. Progesterone is what keeps your temps high so you will probably see higher temps than usual.

jazcat, put in tomorrow's temp and it will say you ovulated yesterday. It never gives an O date more recent than two days ago.

[jazcat]

That's what I've been trying. When I plug in higher temps for the next two days, it gives me the crosshairs for two days ago...I'll put them back in case anyone can help with this.

The one time I had my progesterone checked it was 11.4. But as I understand it, Clomid will make it higher. I just want to create a happy place so the little guy feels like sticking around for awhile. Not sure what to do

Originally Posted by songbird45

I'm not sure I'd use progesterone cream without knowing what my post-O progerone levels were... I think you have to keep using it through the first trimester if you start (because dropping progesterone levels can trigger a m/c), and it might delay your period if you're not pg. Progesterone is what keeps your temps high so you will probably see higher temps than usual.

jazcat, put in tomorrow's temp and it will say you ovulated yesterday. It never gives an O date more recent than two days ago.

[songbird45]

Try putting higher pre-O temps in. Maybe fill in 97.6 on CD10?

[jazcat]

Nope

Originally Posted by songbird45

Try putting higher pre-O temps in. Maybe fill in 97.6 on CD10?