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My 12 year old DD for the most part is a great kid. I think she is a pretty typical 12 year old who give me attitude/back talk/eye rolls sometimes, but about what you would expect for a kid her age. Most of the time she is really nice be be around.

What I am struggling with with her lately is her attitudes about her friends. She is SOOOO easily offended and is deeply wounded by words that most people would probably let roll off of their backs. I try to be empathic and listen whe she is upset about something one of her friends did or said, but I often find it very hard to understand the depth of the annoyance/insult/hurt/etc. that she is feeling.

There are several friends that she finds so annoying that she will no longer spend time with them. Some of these kids are the children of my friends and that is very awkward. She has mostly talked about it with me and has not said to the friends that she doesn't want to be around them. She just tries to avoid situations where they will be.

I don't want to push her into relationships that she doesn't want to be in, but she is so quick to write someone off because they say or do something that she doesn't like. She will also be so deeply wounded if someone says or does something that hurts her feelings that she is in a funk for days over it.

She is very perfectionistic about her school work and anything she attempts to do. If she can't do it on the first try she is very upset with herself. I think her perfectionism is affecting her relationships and her expectations of her friends are at such a high standard that no one will be able to meet them. DH and I try very hard to let her know that we don't expect perfection, but it is such a deeply rooted trait with her.

How can I help her to be more tolerant and embrace personality quirks and differences in others without invalidating her feelings? I want her to understand that people will never be able to be perfect in relationships, but that we can work through conflicts, embrace different attitudes and opinions, and have rich relationships even when we don't agree with everything someone says or does.
post #2 of 8
I don't have teens, but i WAS an ultra-conservative teen, exactly the way you describe your DD, at 12. Does she have AF yet? I know that seems random, but i got AF a week before my 13th birthday and was regular by about 14 and it made SUCH a difference to my mood. It was like constant PMT the year before AF arrived! Everything hurt me, everyone had weird double standards. The world was populated by hypocrits. But eventually i began to accept that everyone, including me, was human, not perfect.

My folks just pointed out the other side of the coin when i was being critical, and eventually i began to see both sides again (i was an empathic child, so i do think my sudden conservative switch was a shock to them). By the time i was 16 i was a hippy
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Originally Posted by pink gal View Post
My 12 year old DD for the most part is a great kid. I think she is a pretty typical 12 year old who give me attitude/back talk/eye rolls sometimes, but about what you would expect for a kid her age. Most of the time she is really nice be be around.

What I am struggling with with her lately is her attitudes about her friends. She is SOOOO easily offended and is deeply wounded by words that most people would probably let roll off of their backs. I try to be empathic and listen whe she is upset about something one of her friends did or said, but I often find it very hard to understand the depth of the annoyance/insult/hurt/etc. that she is feeling.

There are several friends that she finds so annoying that she will no longer spend time with them. Some of these kids are the children of my friends and that is very awkward. She has mostly talked about it with me and has not said to the friends that she doesn't want to be around them. She just tries to avoid situations where they will be.

I don't want to push her into relationships that she doesn't want to be in, but she is so quick to write someone off because they say or do something that she doesn't like. She will also be so deeply wounded if someone says or does something that hurts her feelings that she is in a funk for days over it.

She is very perfectionistic about her school work and anything she attempts to do. If she can't do it on the first try she is very upset with herself. I think her perfectionism is affecting her relationships and her expectations of her friends are at such a high standard that no one will be able to meet them. DH and I try very hard to let her know that we don't expect perfection, but it is such a deeply rooted trait with her.

How can I help her to be more tolerant and embrace personality quirks and differences in others without invalidating her feelings? I want her to understand that people will never be able to be perfect in relationships, but that we can work through conflicts, embrace different attitudes and opinions, and have rich relationships even when we don't agree with everything someone says or does.
I could have written your post!! I have been trying to read up on this age of development,and I think this behavior and attitude are normal for this age. Very frustrating. Very hard.I have no advice,as I'm right there with ya!
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I say good for her that she the ability to set personal boundries, so many people don't. It will serve her well in life.
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I say good for her that she the ability to set personal boundries, so many people don't. It will serve her well in life.
Arduinna, I so hope you're right!

Unfortunately, I saw these same traits in my younger sister, beginning at this age. She is 31 now, and hasn't been able to keep friends, jobs, or BFs. It has been both sad and scary to see how her life has played out. She has dxed GAD,Panic Disorder and OCD, but refuses to get help for herself.

Having said that, I don't really see this as a good or bad-just hard for us in the moment. And I pray that this stage is just that-a stage, and it will end. I just think our DDs are at that age,where they are really trying to figure things out-like toddlers.




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There isn't anything in the OP that indicates her dd has a mental illness though, so I don't think this is comparable to your sisters situation. YK?
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
There isn't anything in the OP that indicates her dd has a mental illness though, so I don't think this is comparable to your sisters situation. YK?
Oh gosh! Yes, you're right! The OP didn't mention anything like that. I just reread my last post, and,again, did a poor job of making a complete thought.

Let me try again.

My sister had all those traits at the same age as Op's DD and my DD. We all chalked it up to my sis just being over the top perfectionist. It wasn't until she was well into her 20's, that she was dxed wit hthese things.

Now, I'm *not* saying that the OP's DD has these things. But. My DD was dxed last summer with GAD and Panic disorder. Her new therapist is trying to figure out if she also has OCD. The thing is, up until last summer, my DD was described by everyone as the ultimate perfectionist-*noone* could be harder on herself than she is.

The reason I even posted, was the description was strikingly similar to my own DD-mental issues aside. My side of the family gave DD the mental illness genes, DH passed on the extreme perfectionist gene.

The difficulty, is that, with this delicate age, whether or not we're dealing with a mental illness(which in our case was hidden in the guise(word?) of the "ultimate perfectionist"...and making the perfectionist traits hugely an issue) or not, the day to day living with a DC -especially a DD- with this type of personality,can be so hard.

I'm not really making my point clear, I'll just say that I wasn't trying to compare the OP's DD with my sister, just that the red flags are there for me(and with much more good reason), and that the description of OP's DD sounds so much like my DD.



IN my defense, I have a hugely stressful day ahead of me, and just downed three shots of espresso-and I don't do caffeine.
post #8 of 8
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Mamas,

Thanks for all the interesting food for thought. It is always comforting to know that other people have experienced similar challenges, and you are not alone.

I think there really is something to the hormonal thing. Some days she seems like she has an over the top case of PMS and other days she is her happy funny self. She has really just started the physical changes leading up to AF and I think it will still be a while, but I think she is really in the midst of the hormone surge leading up to it. I was 13 when I started. She just turned 12 a couple of weeks ago. Many people I know followed a similar time line to their mothers.

The perfectionist thing is huge. I understand where the pp was coming from in being concerned about links to mental illness. I often see perfectionism linked to depression and anxiety. When someone has standards for themself that are unattainable it can really be challenging. I'm sorry your sister and DD are struggling with that. I hope they are able to find some help that works for them.

I have seen my DD lighten up a little recently around issues related to school. She is in a gifted program and was devestated last year when she received her first B on her report card. She has since gotten a couple more B's and I have seen a significant reduction in anxiety around that. I think getting the first one and seeing that the world didn't come crashing down around her because of it helped give her a reality check.

DH and I are very careful not to put any academic pressure on her and constantly remind her that we love her the same no matter what grades she gets. And really try to reinforce the idea that NO ONE is perfect and we have no expectation that she will be. I think that this is a message we will need to continue working on in many ways and many areanas in her life.

We had some friends over last night and they have a daughter the same age as DD. The last time they were together DD came home fussing about something my friend's DD had said that DD took offence to. She was able to put it aside and they had a good time together. I felt much better at the end of the evening when I saw that she was able to forgive and move on. I'll keep hoping for more of that!
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