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Ds's cavities HEALED!

post #1 of 47
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We just got back from the dentist and ds got lots of compliments!

Almost 2 years ago I had a pediatric dentist tell me that ds had 5 cavities! Two teeth that are side by side near the front were affected and could be seen, but they told me that there were 3 more cavities in the back "that you can't see" and they didn't do X-rays of the back, so how, exactly were THEY seeing them?? I had a bad feeling and took ds to my dentist who agreed to check him out even though he doesn't see children. After full X-rays, only the front two cavities were real. My dentist, while extremely nice and great at what I'd call reactionary dentistry, wasn't supportive of trying to use diet, no fluoride and no glycerin to heal his teeth and prevent more problems.

I read a lot on here and decided to try to heal his teeth. We switched to Tooth Soap (and later added the awesome Tooth Swish product) to avoid all glycerin so his teeth could re-mineralize and I tried to add more bone broth, keep up his vegetable and fruit intake and continue CLO. He's not a huge fan of soup so I just got in as much bone broth as I could and worried that it wasn't enough. I'm also not consistent with the CLO. I bought BO, but the dss didn't like it and getting it in was a constant battle that I wasn't ready for...

I've kind-of been dreading going, but I found a holistic-minded DDS and decided to take ds. Exam and X-rays today show NO CAVITIES!!

There is, of course, evidence of past decay, but there is NO active decay at all. I believe the quote was, "I can see where he obviously has some damage from past decay, but there isn't ANY active decay anywhere. And when I look at his teeth I see very good mineralization...healthier than any baby teeth I've ever seen. Whatever you're doing is working so keep up the good work!"

I feel like jumping, dancing, shouting! I was a little uncomfortable (and dh, though supportive, was more uncomfortable) trying to "heal" cavities because it's against everything we're taught, but I'm so glad we relied on our TF diet, the WAPF principles and the advice I got on here...THANKS!!!

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post #2 of 47
That is just friggen AWESOME! This is really nice for me to hear since we are in this boat right now!!! I'm SO happy for you - ECC are so stressful!!! :
post #3 of 47
AWESOME news! Great job, Mama! Isn't it empowering when we take control of our own [family's] health?! Good for you!
post #4 of 47
wow! that's awesome!! :
post #5 of 47
that's great! could you tell me where to get the tooth soap?
post #6 of 47
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Thanks, everyone! I am still glowing. I'll never do everything right, that's impossible, but hitting a home run every once in a while feels great! I am SO GLAD that I didn't let that first office work on his mouth!!!


Tooth Soap

My boys like the citrus liquid and I like the peppermint liquid. We tried one of the ones with raw honey, but dss didn't like the fruity flavors.

We all like the lemon lime swish...it's mostly Himalayan sea salt, baking soda, and essential oils (for flavor, I think) that helps to re-mineralize teeth and make a more alkaline ph in the mouth. We are all using it (2 adults and two children) and it's lasting a long time!

They have sales periodically, esp. coupons sent to past customers.
post #7 of 47
That is great to read! :
post #8 of 47
I love reading stories of success with TF. Way to go!
post #9 of 47
I am so glad you posted this. I have some caries right now that I am trying to heal and not having much luck with. I'm going to try some tooth soap and see if that will do it. I need to read more about this!
post #10 of 47
Can I find tooth soap at natural food stores? Or just online? I've just discovered some serious tooth decay in my 17 month old.
post #11 of 47
this is genius! i've been healing myself for years but for some reason it never occurred to me to see if you could heal cavities. so glad i found this! and : for you and DS!
post #12 of 47
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Originally Posted by ejsmama View Post
Can I find tooth soap at natural food stores? Or just online? I've just discovered some serious tooth decay in my 17 month old.
I'm pretty sure it's only on-line. It's expensive, but it lasts a while and the difference for us is worth it.

The key is no glycerin b/c it coats your teeth. I'm sure this is in all toothpaste with the theory that you don't want food to stick, but teeth are in constant flux with the minerals in your mouth and minerals can't be deposited if your teeth are coated in glycerin.

You can use it on a small child. My kids typically swallow it. I get a much more "soapy" taste if I let it hit the back of my tongue, but they don't seem to mind and they don't show any signs of stomach upset.

(we also use a sonicare toothbrush on everyone...more "bang for the buck" for the amount of time we are in the boys' mouths)
post #13 of 47
Thanks! I know my mom tried it and couldn't take the taste. I'll see if she has any of hers left before I go out and buy. On their web site they indicated that there are individuals and wholesalers who sell it, but there is no way of looking up on the website WHO those individuals are.

For awhile I used plain baking soda, but then I heard that it was too abrasive, plus the kids couldn't take the taste. Has any one used plain xilitol?
post #14 of 47
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Originally Posted by ejsmama View Post

For awhile I used plain baking soda, but then I heard that it was too abrasive, plus the kids couldn't take the taste. Has any one used plain xilitol?
I've used xilitol mixed with baking soda and peppermint oil. If the the xilitol to baking soda ratio get too high though (making the baking soda taste go away) then it doesn't like it cleans quite as well, but still just as good as most tooth pastes.

Should I not use baking soda like that though? Am I ruining my enamel?
post #15 of 47
Hey Whitney it's Stephanie (Cash's mom)! I was halfway through your post thinking 'This story sounds really familiar...' before I realized it was you . That is *SO* awesome about the visit to the dentist- could you PM or email the contact info for that dentist so I can relay it to my SIL? I'm sure she will be elated to hear that you could halt the tooth decay with diet because that is exactly what she is trying to do now with her DD. :
post #16 of 47
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Should I not use baking soda like that though? Am I ruining my enamel?
I just asked my dentist this very question! I brush with baking soda because I am allergic to corn, and haven't been able to find any toothpaste that is free of corn derivatives. My dentist said baking soda is an EXCELLENT alternative to toothpaste, it is not too abrasive and will not ruin enamel.

I also brush with Xylitol (from birch, not corn) granules. I alternate between the baking soda and the Xylitol. Or sometimes I brush twice, first with the baking soda, then a second time with Xylitol. I tried mixing them but didn't really like the taste.
post #17 of 47
Yikes, I just read on the tooth soap site that xilitol has nickel in it!!!!! Yuck.

So is the honey really okay to put on our teeth? I've been so careful to brush my teeth after my before bedtime honey dose.

So, can we just make this stuff ourselves then?
post #18 of 47
YAY! Good job!
post #19 of 47
okay, so I've been reading and all natural soap contains a natural amount of glycerin in it. There is a special process for removing the glycerin and all... Do you think the Tooth Soap has been through this process or do they just not worry about that natural amount and not add any additional glycerin? The ingredient list says saponified coconut, palm and olive oil, which would all normally contain a natural amount of glycerin. The website doesn't mention them removing glycerine from the natural soap, just not adding it in. I'm only wondering all this, becasue if it's not being removed, it would be the easiest thing in the world to make at home, saving a bundle.

Oh, and I found this on etsy.
post #20 of 47
Toothsoap does not have added glycerine, but there is a natural amount. They don't remove it.

Re: xylitol containing nickel, I'm curious about that because xylitol is naturally occurring in lots of foods, like strawberries.

I've heard that honey is good for teeth but I don't remember where I read/heard that. Maybe on the tooth soap site (I use tooth soap)
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