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post #21 of 47
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Originally Posted by sunshinestarr View Post

Re: xylitol containing nickel, I'm curious about that because xylitol is naturally occurring in lots of foods, like strawberries.
It was in the context of talking about the chemical process of creating xylitol crystals. I got the impression it was something added for processing, not something inherent in xylitol.
post #22 of 47
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Originally Posted by CrunchyFarmGirl View Post
It was in the context of talking about the chemical process of creating xylitol crystals. I got the impression it was something added for processing, not something inherent in xylitol.
Ah, gotcha.
post #23 of 47
Oooooh, has anyone tried making thier own tooth soap with the coconut oil etc? I would LOVE to learn how to do that! Those tooth chips sound really awesome too! Lots to look at I guess!
post #24 of 47
I just tried making my own tooth soap. I used some grated up (very finely grated, more like coarse powder) homemade beef tallow soap with water, raw honey and peppermint oil. I added enough peppermint oil and honey that I didn't taste the soap at all. It was much nicer to use than my baking soda blend. My teeth feel amazingly smooth. I just dipped my toothbrush into the bowl I mixed it in and brushed, then rinsed several times.
post #25 of 47
I'm making some soap tonight! After reading this thread I started researching natural dental care and checked out the toothsoap website. I couldn't find any soap without glycerin in it, so I decided to make some.
The recipe I'm using:
2T coconut oil
3T baking soda
10 Drops peppermint oil (I'm using 1/2 peppermint and 1/2 vanilla for less strenth)
a small dallop of honey

To this recipe I'm also adding 4 crushed up calcium carbonate pills, a total of 2,000 mg. I looked around and a lot of recipes had that in them so I'm borrowing that and hoping it helps.

I'm also making some mouthwash!
The recipe:
1/4C rum or vodka
1/2C distilled water
1/4t honey
1/4t ground cinnamon
1/2t ground cloves

I'll let everyone know how they turn out!
post #26 of 47
I love our liquid tooth soap. Much much better than the shreds, IMO. I am encouraged to hear your story, Feb2003. I have very sensitive teeth, and have 4 (filled) cavities that I would like to heal. Ideally, I would have the fillings removed, I think, but can't afford to see a dentist right now. So, I have been trying to have a good diet and use the tooth soap. I also started using the tooth swish a couple of weeks ago, and my sensitivity seems to have decreased. Thank you for sharing your story.
post #27 of 47
Thread Starter 
I hope you all enjoy the soap!

I love hearing about the home mixes! Appeals to my scientist heart.

We haven't used chips, but I really like the liquid. It was a hard sell for dh and he was buying a separate Xylitol based paste toothpaste (spry brand) for a while, but I'm not sure if it's b/c he ran out and he's lazy, or what, but for a while now I've seen him using the tooth soap and I'm not saying a word I think avoiding the back of your tongue is key to the soapiness and while I almost gagged the first time or two (I used too much and the bubbles were everywhere ), now I use it without any trouble!

I heard that baking soda can hurt your gums so to try to not scrub your gums if you've got anything abrasive on there. We do a baking soda scrub every once in a while, but mostly the tooth soap makes my teeth feel very clean...not in a striped, artificial way, but smooth and natural.

My teeth seem to take stain easier without the glycerin (I don't eat/drink many staining foods, but I had some staining behind the bottom teeth), but it cleaned off easily at the dentist and then wasn't an issue once I replaced my sonicare head

We saw Dr. Henry Guy in Grand Prairie and we were very happy. He's not actually pediatric, but did see my 5 yo and they were very patient with his constant questions. His card says "health centered dentistry" and "a complementary blend of scientific and alternative therapies" and I love his holistic approach.

PS: he had these at his office - lollipops that have herbs in them to actually fight oral bacteria...interesting
post #28 of 47
What about using Dr. Bronner's Soap?
The ingredients are: water, saponified organic coconut oil & Organic olive Oils (with retained glycerin), Organic hemp oil, organic jajoba oil, organic peppermint oil, mentha arvensis extract, citric acid, vitamin E.
Anything bad in there for teeth? Would this be anything like the tooth soap you are buying? Maybe I could add someting to this? Just curious because this soap is pretty cheap! I like that!
Also, I just got my first filling ever, 2 days ago. The cavity was from a spot on my molar where my tooth had been deformed because of a high fever I had at 2 years old. I have one more spot like it that the dentist would like to fill, but if tooth soap can heal it, I am all for it! Point me in the right direction!
post #29 of 47
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Originally Posted by stilllearning85 View Post
but if tooth soap can heal it, I am all for it!
honestly, I wouldn't say that tooth soap can "heal" anything, but I think that because we use it and it doesn't contain glycerin, we were able to stop the decay on ds' teeth with diet. Plus we aim to keep his mouth more alkaline than the bacteria like.

He still has an area that appears damaged so I'm not sure if that part will fill in with smooth enamel or not...only time will tell (of course he might loose the teeth before that happens!)

I *think* you could use any soap that doesn't have glycerin (or anything else that would be bad to ingest)...then make sure you rinse at least twice to get all the soap to rinse clean and have your teeth ready for the minerals in your spit to be deposited

good luck healing!
post #30 of 47
Huh. Never heard of this before. What does the soap do, then, that brushing wiht a dry brush or with water wouldn't? What is the purpose of toothpaste anyway? Can you get off plaque with only the brush, or do you need an abrasive agent of some kind?

Scratching my head here. But willing to give it a try!
post #31 of 47
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Originally Posted by stilllearning85 View Post
What about using Dr. Bronner's Soap?
Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Castille Soap lists brushing teeth as one of its uses. So I'm guessing you could use it for that -- at least they endorse it for that. I don't know anything about tooth soap so I have no opinion on that or if this would be better or worse. Just mentioning that toothbrushing is listed as a Dr. Bronner's use.
post #32 of 47
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Originally Posted by stilllearning85 View Post
What about using Dr. Bronner's Soap?
Yeah, Dr B's works but it isn't as pleasant to brush with as Tooth Soap.
post #33 of 47
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Originally Posted by gentlemango View Post
Huh. Never heard of this before. What does the soap do, then, that brushing wiht a dry brush or with water wouldn't? What is the purpose of toothpaste anyway? Can you get off plaque with only the brush, or do you need an abrasive agent of some kind?

Scratching my head here. But willing to give it a try!
I think it's a case of soap helping to move the particles away like washing your hands with soap and water vs. just water...really hot water can kill germs without soap, but I don't think you could subject your teeth to that!

Also, brushing too hard (relying on just your bristles or using abrasive cleaners every time) can do serious damage to your gums.

I guess I'm not advocating tooth soap (although we are really happy with it) so much as I'm excited that TF and our avoidance of glycerin were able to stop decay for my 5 yo. (it's also nice to avoid the prescribed flouride...)
post #34 of 47
I should not have waited so long, but I wanted to update anyone interested in our tooth paste. It is working out wonderfully! Previous to this mix I was brushing with baking soda about every other time and now I just use this. I like it a lot. It's not too abrasive (as I found the pure baking soda to be), the flavor is certainly better and the consistency is the same as commercial tooth paste, which makes it easier to use. I'm very happy with it.
I haven't gotten to the mouthwash yet because they don't sell hard liqour in the grocery store and I don't even know where a liqour store is here LOL. In case anyone's interested I'll let you know when I get it made how I like it.
post #35 of 47
Thanks for sharing! I'd been wondering how it was working out. I think I'll make this up. I've needed something that would work for the kids, who did NOT like my homemade toothsoap!
post #36 of 47
I make toothsoap with coconut oil, pascalite clay (I prefer this to baking soda, and it has hte added benefit of minerals) myrrh and honey. We love it!

And yes, REAL honey is FINE on teeth.
post #37 of 47
firefaery - is the myrrh as an essential oil?
post #38 of 47
I have used both an essential oil and a resin.
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by GoddessKristie View Post
I'm making some soap tonight! After reading this thread I started researching natural dental care and checked out the toothsoap website. I couldn't find any soap without glycerin in it, so I decided to make some.
The recipe I'm using:
2T coconut oil
3T baking soda
10 Drops peppermint oil (I'm using 1/2 peppermint and 1/2 vanilla for less strenth)
a small dallop of honey

To this recipe I'm also adding 4 crushed up calcium carbonate pills, a total of 2,000 mg. I looked around and a lot of recipes had that in them so I'm borrowing that and hoping it helps.

I'm also making some mouthwash!
The recipe:
1/4C rum or vodka
1/2C distilled water
1/4t honey
1/4t ground cinnamon
1/2t ground cloves

I'll let everyone know how they turn out!
Do you just store the paste in a glass contair and dip he brush in? I am excited to try that mouthwash recipe as well!

Jen
post #40 of 47
I put the toothpaste in a little dish that is meant for carry-along baby food. It's essentially like a little tupperware bowl that holds one cup. I use a little baby spoon to get it on my toothbrush, but you could easily just dip your brush in and use it like that. I ended up using about 1/2T of organic peppermint flavoring and it has a light taste. If I were making it for children I would use more honey. I gave it a nice dallop, maybe a teaspoon and a half and it's still not sweet, just middle of the road.
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