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post #21 of 30
Well we definatly have a unique family structure (though not by choice, which is really a different topic all together) but our DD is by far the oddest thing in the house . So far she doesn't seem to have suffered from the things we do that are out of the mainstream like eating organic, free range meat and even then not everyday. Or sending her to school with carrot sticks instead of cookies for recess snack. It could be she just adapted and figured if she's going to be different because her parents are lame (she called us that this morning) she might as well be cool different.
post #22 of 30
It would depend.

Weird as in the parents are going to instill fear into their child over any choice different from their own?

Or weird just as in they eat different things at home or have different family hobbies?

I have seen people go a little overboard (imo) with the natural living part of things, because they would (literally) SCREAM "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" and run in terror towards their child if their child looked like they might eat something not on the list of acceptible foods (this was not an allergy issue, btw). The mom had a little air cleaner machine that she would insist that they wear around their neck. If anyone had a spray cleaner of anything other than homemade vingar stuff, or she happend to see liquid hand soap that was unapproved or whatever, she'd lecture and act as if her kid was going to die from the exposure. I've always wondered what happened to her, since she didn't want to homeschool her kids, I would imagine that the first year of public schooling (or even a private school) was probably pretty traumatic for both mother and child.

So that lady? A little weird, and not in a good way.

However, I also know folks that are even more organic/natural living than she was but who were capable of interpersonal communication and seemed to enjoy life a hell of a lot more.

I don't worry about my kind of weird. We don't watch TV, don't have cable, are slowly integrating subsistance gardening into our family, we live as sustainably as possible, I pack my kids' lunch each day with a wider variety than probably most kids enjoy or have been exposed to. But I haven't taught them to FEAR other things, nor do I really care about other people's hobbies or habits.

I think everyone's different, they're their own selves. Just because someone doesn't practice as much NFL as I do doesn't mean that they're not unique. Nor is someone who does something different than me 'weird'. I suppose I'm trying to raise my kids to kind of shrug at differences, and enjoy life and other people for who they are, not how cool/unique/weird/'normal' they are.
post #23 of 30
My parents were kinda "weird": in the SCA, both doctorates, dad was probably Aspberger's, mom never shaved/wore makeup/did hair, both looked kinda "weird", etc. Didn't ever really care about fitting in.

My brother never, ever invited people over to our house growing up (we had a POOL fercrissake), and now works in a high powered financial setting in the Northeast. Wears polos and khakis as his casual clothes. Married someone very concerned about appearances. He recycles, and is looking at energy efficiency while renovating his 3000sqft house. Shaves every day. Watches Friends.

I was known for my kick-ass sleepovers in highschool. Wore a cloak every day for about five years straight. Don't shave anything ever. Don't mind looking weird; occasionally enjoy it. Live in a 1000sq ft house with overgrown roses out front. Am what could be considered quite crunchy. Watched Buffy and Firefly back when we had cable.

My brother would probably say he wished his parents were less weird; I definitely wouldn't. The point? Don't worry about what you can't control (such as what your kids think about your parenting twenty years from now). Just do the best you can in the moment, and know that you're doing just fine.
post #24 of 30
kids are surprisingly resilient. I think that as long as healthy values and such are reinforced, the kids will do just fine with weird parents.

I'm definitely one of the weird ones! We have serious rules about commercial influences within our home - Disney & Barbie are strictly forbidden, as well as most syndicated character-toys. Guess what? my kids appreciate it! They are relieved to know that mom controls the type of toys they play with and what they watch on tv. Their friends and cousins all have Barbie and an endless supply of Disney crap ... my kids will survive if they see/play with it somewhere else. (actually, it's even more ironic than that because I have owned a children's resale shop for the past 6 years, and we sell many toys that are simply not allowed at my house)

I think the most unfortunate aspect of our weirdness is how my in-laws refuse to accept it or even attempt to understand it. They constantly undermine our authority by shoving the forbidden fruit in our face. We have to forbid presents!! And really be strict about a lot of things, actually. But my dd's are self-aware and strong and they know that some things just don't need to be a part of their lives. My oldest will ask Pops to turn the tv off if it's on gross cartoons (like Sponge Bob) or too much advertisements!

And food is another issue entirely. My kids have to detox for several days after visiting their house ... ugh. But, I try to be relaxed about it. A little processed mac & cheese isn't going to kill them.

--janis
(my dds are 8.5 & 4.5, if it matters)
post #25 of 30
Our family growing up was what might be considered a little weird. For the first 9 years of my life we lived in the woods with no electricity, running water, or TV. Even after we moved, we never really had a TV at home (when I was a junior in high school we got a TV with a VCR to watch movies, but not cable and no broadcast channels where we lived). We were also mostly vegetarians until I was in high school. There were three of us kids and we all handled it differently. I kind of revelled in being different, and in retrospect, probably alienated a lot of people because they thought that I thought I was better than them (I didn't really, but I was pretty proud/happy about our lifestyle). My brother rather floundered, but that might have to do with other emotional immaturities, and my sister made hereself as mainstream as possible within the context of our family (my Mom likes to joke that the ultimate rebellion for a child of hippy is to join a sorority ). Despite our different reactions to the weirdness of our family, we all love and accept one another, and are all pretty happy, well adjusted, self suffcient, adults with good support systems of family and friends . I think we all took different lessons from our parents choices when we were young, but I also don't think any of us would change our childhood. Now, my Mom is also very accepting and tolerant of each of our unique personalities (yes, even the sorority sister), and had a lot of trust in us to make good decisions, and helped to support us overcome our mistakes when we made less then stellar decisions, and so I'm sure that helped. I think love, support, community and family connections are what are most important -- that's what makes a "normal" family life in my mind and helps any child overcome what feels weird to them. At least it did for us (even though we manifested it in different ways). HTH
post #26 of 30
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I think love, support, community and family connections are what are most important -- that's what makes a "normal" family life in my mind and helps any child overcome what feels weird to them.
This. Don`t need to add any more to this.
post #27 of 30
I think that human beings are extremely social animals, and by our nature we seek to be part of a larger social order.

I'm not sure what you mean by damage but... I do think it can cause feelings of isolation, differentness or whatever to be part of a family that doesn't follow mainstream beliefs.

However, lots of people from mainstream backgrounds already have those feelings so... not sure how much of a factor it would be for me.

I do believe that part of my job as a parent is to teach my child how to deal with our culture. But then again, there are many aspects of our culture that an OLDER child is more equipped to deal with (such as marketing and consumerism), so I think sheltering is good in that respect.

JMHO.
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by pumpkinmom2 View Post
i would worry more about your own children holding resentment against your "weird ways". they will know pretty early on that there family is different or not mainstream. if the children who were raised by two totaly different parenting styles get along, then thats great, but i would imagine the kids would like differnt things anyway, a mainstream kid would probably would be "bored" at your house and not want to be friends with your children anyway.
I don't find this to be true. The kids in our neighborhood that my kids play with the most have heavy exposure to media that I consider to be age in-appropriate (as in 1st person shooter video games for the 9 year old). They get along with my kids really well. They like to play the same things.

I've talked to the parents and they are very understanding that I don't want my kids watching things rated other than G (video games E), and they're OK with it. The kids don't comment on it, my kids haven't noticed so far. When they do, we'll talk about it.

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what i wonder is it okay to impart strong views on them when they are not old enough to know all the angles and make a choice for themselves? when they are old enough, will you let them form their own opinion? i wonder this about religion also, does a ten yo child belive in his faith because that is what he was tought and how he was raised, or would you let him change his religion when he gathered his own info and believed something other than what you do. this is the same for not eating meat, thinking that watching tv is awful, or any other strong value you hold.
There's a difference between imparting a strong faith (taking the religion example) and sequestering a child from all information. Going to church was a requirement in my parents' household. BUT, they were also willing to discuss religion and why they believed what they believed. The actively chose NOT to send us to Catholic grade school (they are Catholic) because they felt it was too narrow and wanted us to be exposed to a greater variety of people and ideas. They told us this. I don't remember how old we were, I know I was aware of this when I was about 9-10.

For my own kids, I preach "everything in moderation". As a result, I'm not as crunchy as some people here. No, we don't have a TV in our living room. No, we don't watch a lot of it. But we're not TV free.

Yes, we cook meals from scratch and try to eat a range of foods. But we eat sugar. Kraft Mac 'n cheese graces my cupboard :.

Yes, I nursed until dd was age 4. Yes, we co-sleep (part of the night -- dd starts in her own bed.) No, I didn't really talk to my neighbors about it. We don't use lawn chemicals (much to the consternation of several neighbors and the fascist neighborhood association who keep trying to fine us for having "too many weeds"). But we just explain it by saying "my kids play on this lawn."

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if you let them be who they are with guidence and obviously keep them from real danger would their own personality choose the same things you do? if they would, then they wont care if you are not mainstream because they would believe that they are making the right choice for them. (i am speaking of school age children not toddlers.)
See, I would argue that by the time they reach middle school, it's not so much "making the right choice for them" but guiding their own choices and helping them think things through. Exposing them to different things and talking things through. Explaining why we feel strongly about some things and not others. Helping them to research.

For my own family, each of the 5 kids goes to church and is fairly active in our church. Nearly all of us went through a period where we didn't go to church/were not very active. 2 of us do not go to Catholic churches because we married men who are not Catholic, and our spouses were not willing to convert. My parents made it abundantly clear that they were OK with this. They're not hung up on denominations.

Hmm.. not sure I've articulated this very well, but ds wants me to play Cadoo with him, and he has told me he needs some "Mommy time" so I'd better go foster that connection!
post #29 of 30
LynnS6, i hope my message did not come off as negative!

i wonder this because of my own upbringing. we were toatly a mainstream family not "weird" at all. (well that is all relative) we certinaly have our issues like everyone else and my parents although they believe in religion, we did not go to church and i have no opinion on religion ( i guess i never felt the need for it in my life) i am certinaly not anti religious. i say let everyone do what they want and think what they want.

what you do, is what i was talking about. telling the kids why you choose this and let them know the background behind it from all sides, and then one day let them make their own choice.

i guess i mostly was talking about the family they refered to that never let their kids out of the house, the have got to resent their parents for that especially if they sit and watch other "regular" families outside having fun. how bad they must feel.
post #30 of 30
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I don't find this to be true. The kids in our neighborhood that my kids play with the most have heavy exposure to media that I consider to be age in-appropriate (as in 1st person shooter video games for the 9 year old). They get along with my kids really well. They like to play the same things.
That's been my experience too.
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