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post #101 of 271
What gets me is if I o'd why the few below my coverline and then back up above? I know a temp dip can be one or two temps but I've got more than that.
post #102 of 271
Thread Starter 
What does it look like when the temps aren't adjusted? Does it still look like O? I don't really know about the temps that go below. TCOYF says 1 or 2 temps below your CL is no big deal but, if you get more and you have fertile cm again, then O might not be clear.
post #103 of 271
I'll go uncheck the disturbed box and see. I did take an hpt. Still negative. Whew! My sil was here the other night thinking she might be and asked point blank when I was having another. I think she wants to see me birth again more than I do! :
post #104 of 271
Ok distrbed temps. has been unchecked. Apparently I still have a temp shift. Only difference is that my coverline is lower now. I uploaded it so it's in my siggy.

Thought so. I just went and changed my FF to read the same temps. and found one in there that wasn't noted as beng done earlier on my ovusoft one. I kept all temps. in and didn't mark any as disturbed. FF gave me a new o date (and it's what I thought it would be!).

Here's the ff one...what do you think now? Ovusoft is still keeping the original one.

ETA: I'm not really on cd29 btw. It's more like cd300 something. FF made me start a new chart though since it was taking up too much space to show it all.
post #105 of 271
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If you got a negative hpt, then I'd say you didn't O 18 or 19 days ago. It could've been the new day that FF gave you. I guess you'll be like me, waiting for AF so I can go back and see if O 12-14 days before then makes sense. If I Oed on the new day that Ovusoft and FF have given me, I should get AF this weekend.
post #106 of 271
Makes sense. I have a feeling ovusoft will update here in the next day or so. It waits longer to give me crosshairs than ff.

Yup it will. I went and added a couple extra temps and it did. Although it rule of thumbed a temp and put an o date of Mon. instead of Sat. that ff does.

Crazy how you take normal cycles for granted until you no longer have normal ones.
post #107 of 271
i've got weirdness going on!

had a temp spike on CD 11 (possibly 10 i couldn't temp that day because i didn't sleep for over 24 hours) and a temp dip on CD 9, and now i've got EWCM. if i actually O'd that's way early. and i had an early O last cycle too, but not this early. i don't usually get the pre-O temp drop though. weird! and because i'm working shifts this month i can't temp at the same time so i don't even know if my higher temps for the last 2 days are accurate.

blah.

at least DP is in england right now so i don't actually have to worry about it. :
post #108 of 271
Thread Starter 
We're an interesting bunch. Do any of use actually follow the rules of charting?
post #109 of 271
laughup It all seems so easy in TCOYF. I am quickly learning from you ladies that CTA is not so simple as it seems.

Amber – I would say it looks like a possible O. A few more days will tell you what is going on.

I had a huge temp spike this morning that makes me I got my normal sleep and temped at my normal time. I have NO O symptoms like EWCM (the days I recorded EW it was questionable so I was conservative), no increase in sex drive, no nipple pain! I don’t get it if I did O. I guess I will have to wait the next few days and see how it goes. If I did O then my chart is pretty impressive compared to previous cycles.
post #110 of 271
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We're an interesting bunch. Do any of use actually follow the rules of charting?
a friend of mine who also charts once said "it's only CTA if you FOLLOW the rules!"

oh yeah, my NFP teacher friend said she would pull out her teacher books and see if there's any mention of zoloft specifically. SHe said that it didn't sound unheard of for a med to raise temp.
post #111 of 271
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Canid ~ That is a big temp hike. Hmm...

I had a tiny bit of red spotting today, only once so far, and my temp was way up. I don't usually spot before AF but with breastfeeding and this being my first PP cycle it's possible. My first lp after ds2 was only 9 days, too, so this could be it. I do always spot from 9-11dpo when I get pg, though.

I asked dh yesterday what he would do if I was pg. He didn't really answer me. He just kind of got this look and sighed really loud. I pressed him and he said he wouldn't freak out but he didn't think he'd be happy. Then he asked me if I was trying to get pg. I told him I wasn't (I'm not, really). He didn't say he'd do anything different wrt bc so maybe he's not as completely opposed as he tries to sound.
post #112 of 271
OMM, I'm going to say that I think that this may STILL be an anovulatory cycle and keep looking for an even bigger temperature shift upwards. Or AF, of course

I'm panicking because I forgot to check my temperature two days running- I'm on CD8, so I know it's not the end of the world, but still : If I can't even manage two weeks without messing up, how am I going to survive until menopause without a few extra kids?

Is anyone else planning on using NFP in the long run? Am I nuts to be thinking like this?

Marinewife, sorry, we cross-posted. I'd consider having a serious talk with your body right now if you really don't want to be pregnant... it's still looking like this cycle could go either way.
post #113 of 271
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OMM, I'm going to say that I think that this may STILL be an anovulatory cycle and keep looking for an even bigger temperature shift upwards. Or AF, of course

I'm panicking because I forgot to check my temperature two days running- I'm on CD8, so I know it's not the end of the world, but still : If I can't even manage two weeks without messing up, how am I going to survive until menopause without a few extra kids?

Is anyone else planning on using NFP in the long run? Am I nuts to be thinking like this?

Marinewife, sorry, we cross-posted. I'd consider having a serious talk with your body right now if you really don't want to be pregnant... it's still looking like this cycle could go either way.
We kind of plan to use FAM forever. I asked DH about methods for after we're done having kids, and he said he just likes what we're doing now. I do too.:
post #114 of 271
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Is anyone else planning on using NFP in the long run? Am I nuts to be thinking like this?
I was planning to use FAM for the long run but it's a lot harder than I thought. Hopefully, it will get easier and less stressful. If it doesn't, I don't know what we'll do. I will NEVER take any kind of hormonal bc again and I hate condoms. Sponges (do they even still make those?) and stuff like that aren't appealing either. I think dh might just have to deal with the chance of more children (which I don't mind). Menopause isn't that far away for me.
post #115 of 271
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I was planning to use FAM for the long run but it's a lot harder than I thought. Hopefully, it will get easier and less stressful. If it doesn't, I don't know what we'll do. I will NEVER take any kind of hormonal bc again and I hate condoms. Sponges (do they even still make those?) and stuff like that aren't appealing either. I think dh might just have to deal with the chance of more children (which I don't mind). Menopause isn't that far away for me.
How long have you been using FAM? I'm totally in love with it, but I've only been using it for 10 months. I am very interested to hear an opinion from someone who's been on it much longer.
post #116 of 271
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Is anyone else planning on using NFP in the long run? Am I nuts to be thinking like this?
I am not planning for the long run to use NFP. I am finding it too difficult with PCOS to chart and be comfy of when I am safe. I could literally have 40 "potential fertile" days in a row before an O. The longest I have gone is 58 I think. That is too long for me to use condoms until I hit menopaurse. Once we are done with kids, we will be using something permanent like vasectomy.

I would consider using it long term if my cycles were more regular and I got into the rhythm of things. But so far...that is not happening.
post #117 of 271
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OMM, I'm going to say that I think that this may STILL be an anovulatory cycle and keep looking for an even bigger temperature shift upwards. Or AF, of course
I'm thinking so too. My temp was lower this morning but I also woke up 2 hours earlier than normal. If I adjust it (which I'm not going to do...maybe on my ff one) it's within the range I get when I temp. on time. I got more ewcm this afternoon though so ovusoft is starting my peak day count all over again. Blah. I just hate the wait. Sometimes I wish I was one of those women who get their cycles back earlier. Sure would make it a bit easier. I think.

We have plans to use this for awhile. We go back and forth on it though since it is so random right now. Well I do. DH wants another baby but I'm saying no. I'm pretty "done" on the kids front so I would love DH to get a vasectomy but he isn't done so charting is my compromise I guess. I get birth control but it's not something permanent on his end.
post #118 of 271
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Originally Posted by flapjack View Post
OMM, I'm going to say that I think that this may STILL be an anovulatory cycle and keep looking for an even bigger temperature shift upwards. Or AF, of course

I'm panicking because I forgot to check my temperature two days running- I'm on CD8, so I know it's not the end of the world, but still : If I can't even manage two weeks without messing up, how am I going to survive until menopause without a few extra kids?

Is anyone else planning on using NFP in the long run? Am I nuts to be thinking like this?

Marinewife, sorry, we cross-posted. I'd consider having a serious talk with your body right now if you really don't want to be pregnant... it's still looking like this cycle could go either way.
I have been crappy at temp taking this cycle, what with finals at school and lots of stress. I'm mucous only this month! I do plan on doing it long term, but we'll see after we have DC.. I think DH might get a vas though.
post #119 of 271
I'm doing better.
Thanks for the reassurances, that I'm not doomed entirely. We're kind of on the fence about number 5- I'm feeling done, though this could change.
Marinewife, how're you doing today?
post #120 of 271
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Originally Posted by Sk8ermaiden View Post
How long have you been using FAM? I'm totally in love with it, but I've only been using it for 10 months. I am very interested to hear an opinion from someone who's been on it much longer.
I started charting in 2002 when we were ttc #2. I think I charted 2 or 3 cycles before doing ART. Then 2 cycles before getting pg with ds2. I started charting again when I got my first PP AF after ds2 but, again, we were ttc, not cta. I charted for 22 months then before getting pg with ds3.

I love it for ttc but that was so much easier (so far). I didn't pay much attention to my cm unless it was ew so, even with all that time charting, I don't really know what my BIP is. Plus, like Canid, I have longer than normal cycles so cta may be very frustrating for me if I end up with weeks of being potentially fertile. So, I'm hoping that after about 3 cycles of cta I'll get the hang of things and it won't be so stressful for me.

I'd prefer to just do nothing, not try but not prevent. DH doesn't want another child, though, so this is my compromise. I'd probably still chart even if we did things that way because my cycles are so long and irregular I'd never know when AF was due or if I was late or anything.

So, today is CD1 for me. Now I can get down to business and really try to figure this stuff out. I'm going to assume I did O on cd45 because that makes my lp similar to what it was with my first PP O cycle after ds2. I'm not putting this past cycle in my stats, though.
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