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post #21 of 91
well, you might recall that I broke up with my BF of a year, and I feel badly about how little I miss him. Guess it really wasn't right and I stayed much longer than I should have. but it's water under the bridge now.

so, I'm back into the online dating pool and have been chatting with an amazing guy this week. He's about 80 miles away which pisses me off but is also good, because I sometimes need to put on the breaks and distance forces me to take things slowly (last bf was 60 miles away). But, dang, it's frustrating. He's 5 years younger than I am, which just makes me desperately wish I still had the bod I had when I was 26. I love my kids and love how my life has shaped me into the person I am now, but it's so hard not to yearn for the carefree days of my 20's when I was kid free and hot and had disposable income, kwim?
post #22 of 91
I haven't posted about my dating situation, but I am in need of support/advice.. I really suck at choosing men, and here I am w/ this man that seems awesome and he is approaching our relationship differently then any other man, I am as well, which must be a good thing since the other relationships ended very dramatically (bad drama)... but as far as "serious relationships" go, that would be 3 others... so not much example as it is... my daughters' father and I were together for 8 years, we never dated, we were friends for a few years prior effortlessly became a couple... and it seems I have forgotten how the dating/relationship process goes!

I am confused and I constantly feel insecure b/c from what I remember my other relationships started out very passionate and we were together like glue from get go...never any guesses as to how they were feeling.... sex was usually very early on... now it is not which is....refreshing
Now here I am, we started talking online and the conversations were awesome and we had an amazing connection b-4 meeting in person, he even spoke of thinking I may be "the one" he settles down w/ !!!
Now that we have met, every time we see each other it always feels so rushed b/c I have my girls w/ a sitter on a limited time and it always feels like we can't even get comfortable b-4 it is time to go! He works a lot, I don't feel like I am being chased enough which feeds my insecurity...
I feel like I can't get comfortable enough w/ him... but maybe I am just so used to being comfortable b/c I was w/ my ex all that time and I long for that secure feeling.... not this shyness, not knowing what his thoughts are on "us" from day to day.... feeling insecure when he doesn't call when I think he should call then elated when he does.... then if the conversation isn't the way I think it should be, feeling like he will get tired of me.... realizing that w/ children I can't do what I could if I didn't have them.. feeling guilty for even feeling anything negative about having children b/c I am so tied down...... in every aspect in life, not just dating.... but realizing how much more difficult this will be... the baby *sigh*
I can't just go over to his house whenever, him coming over here at night is full of interruptions from the girls waking up over and over and over... not to mention I live w/ my grandma....
Forget about hanging out while they are awake!!! The 3 1/2 year old acts like a demon possessed child, my 9 month old... ugh! getting into and eating absolutely every thing she shouldn't, a little bull dozer.

Also, he has been very brutally honest w/ me which is awesome b/c although I try not to, I can have trust issues... I feel like b/c he has been honest w/ me about things that he didn't have to even bring up, I can trust him..... but he told me his longest relationship is 1 year..... next up.... I believe was 2 months (he is 29). He has moved all over the country incredible amounts of times. Childless.... Self proclaimed free spirit. I am trying not to hold it against him, he was honest right? It still is something I think about in the insecure moments and wonder... the whys and what ifs
BUT his dream career is here, people that he love/loves him are here, he is happy here..... has only good intentions w/ me.....

I guess that is my vent... worries, questions. Any advice?
post #23 of 91
Just chiming in here! I'm not up for more than casual dating at this point, and have met one guy that I hang out with on occassion. He's a hottie, younger, and definitely fun

I've never really dated in the true sense of the word...in the past, I would meet guys who were friends of friends and end up in a relationship with them. I never really went on "dates" with guys that I didn't know...and I never went out with more than one guy at a time. So this is all pretty new to me. I like it, though!
post #24 of 91
jrayn, everything you've described sound SO very normal. these are just all the questions and feeling that come up with a new person. the kids are a factor, sure, but even if you were childless there would still be issues... and plenty of them! the whole part about being sad when he doesn't call and psyched when he does is, again, par for the course. i'm even like that with my non-romantic friends most of the time. be excited! be happy! be grateful for the few moments you do get together and make the most of them. this doesn't need to be longterm. it doesn't NEED to be anything. if you like him and you're getting some good times with another cool grownup, let it be and enjoy it for that. don't do what *i* do and overthink the hell out of it.

post #25 of 91
It has been 6 months today since S and I's first date! :

I have experienced such amazing personal growth and emotional independence over these past 6 months, due to S and our relationship.

Who would have ever thought you could gain emotional independence when in a relationship???

Kathy Freston defines a soulmate as:

"A soulmate brings us enormous joy and fulfillment, but even more importantly, soulmates leads us into our life's lessons. They get under our skins and push our buttons. They inspire us to look at who we are and where we need to grow."

Based on this definition, I can say without a single doubt in my mind and heart: S is my soulmate.

Now, whether or not he is my "forever" soulmate or not... I imagine so, but my divorce and former relationships have taught me that there are no guarantees in any relationship. Therefore, I try very hard (it is not always easy) to live in the now and take everything one day at a time.

Right now... I am happy, content and very much in love!
post #26 of 91
Gaah! I'm now totally freaking out. I'm really worried I messed up here.

I ended up seeing mr. relationships on friday night. We had a good time just talking and hanging out. He was telling me all about his gardens and this new fountain he put in and then later invited me and my friend to come see it (he lives just around the corner from where we hang out). I told him my friend had to go home, but I was happy to come see.

So I saw the lovely gardens (and was seriously impressed) and his lovely house, and his lovely art. But he still hadn't as much as put his hand on my shoulder. So it was becoming really obvious that he would never make a move if I didn't. So as he's setting up his computer to show me pictures of his fancy vacation, a great line comes to me and I decide it's now or never. So I walked over to him, got much closer than I had before and said "You know, I didn't come here to see pictures." He smiled and I kissed him. When he put his arms around me I totally melted. It was great.
He was sweet and gentlemanly and considerate. We dtd and he just assumed I would stay over, so I did. He was snuggly, and I woke up a few times in the night with his arms around me. I had to get back home early in the morning, so I only got about three and a half hours sleep, and we dtd again before I left. He initiated that.

So when I left he was so sweet and kissed me goodbye and said "I'll see you tonight". I spent the rest of the day walking on air. I went home and took the kids to the beach and climbed rocks and played in the waves, then we got lunch and went to another beach and built sand castles and climbed more rocks, and met up with my mom and sisters and their dogs, got ice cream, and went hiking and met up with friends, too, and did more hiking. Then I went home, slept for two hours, got up, hit the coffee hard and went out again.

HE went back to bed after I left, got up and went to work. When I met up with him he said he was really tired and had a long day. I told him all about my long day, and we agreed we'd leave the crowded bar and go to a smaller one. We watched some tv and talked in the other bar. I thought we had the best conversations we'd had yet. Though, he did ask me about my births (he already knew that'd me and my friend had home births). I gave him the briefest run down (My first was 37 hours of hard labor, but it was beautiful and life changing, my second was much shorter, which caught me off guard so I ended up not calling my midwife in time and had her in the shower). I should have known that no one is ever happy with the details of the unassisted shower birth, but for some reason I thought, this guy really doesn't want/need to know that. But of course he wanted to hear more about it. I told him it would just freak him out, but he insisted so I gave him the censored version. that was hard because normally I reenact the noises, tell the funny comments my (then)husband made (I.e. "you look all crazy, but you sound like you're having sex - how do you feel?" "Like I'm having crazy sex!") and talk in depth about how I felt and what was going on in my mind.

I think I managed to tell him about it without totally freaking him (and the bartender, and the several people around us) out, while still conveying the pain and beauty and intense hormonal rush. But I mean, that's not really good date conversation. Not long after that the bar closed, we left and he said he was just going to call it a night cause he didn't get much sleep and had a big day tomorrow (had a big deal work thing, but it didn't start till after 3pm). I said "you sure you don't want any company?" and he said he was sorry, and just tired, and that I didn't want get immersed in him right now 'cause he's just crabby. Whatever. So he hugged me and kissed me goodbye on the cheek, and said "see you later", then I left. It was only 2:15am, and I know he's almost always out later than that.

Now, I get it, I did keep him up the night before and I can understand needing to rehabilitate after that, but it just seemed so impersonal. I couldn't help feeling really rejected. Here I am, putting myself out there -which is especially hard for me- I feel like it's going well and bam! Good night. It wasn't about having sex again, it was that I thought we'd be a little more comfortable, and close. I felt that way. I grew up with pretty traditional morals (which didn't stop me from getting knocked up at 16, but I digress) so of course my mind goes straight to "see, you shouldn't have slept with him - you ruined everything." But it's not really like that, is it? I mean, I don't want to have to use sex as a weapon, holding out like it's some carrot on a stick. If a guy's not going to be interested after he gets laid I'd rather find that out before I get to attached anyway.

So, I said all that to ask: what do you think? Is he just trying to back off a little and take it slow? Was he just legitimately tired and I was crossing the line to expect to just intrude on his life like that? Is it possible that the sex was so bad he wanted to cut his loses? Did I freak him the heck out with my birth story and my somewhat sudden openness? Do you think he'll call me? What should I do?!
post #27 of 91
**BREATHE**

and be patient.

maybe you moved too soon but, like you said, better to find out know before getting more attached. if the birth story wigged him out, i'd say he needs to grow up. it sounds like an AMAZING story to me... and i'd love to hear it in person with all the sound effects!

hang in there, dude. keep hitting the beach with family and doggies and enjoy the rest of your summer. whatever's meant to happen certainly will.

post #28 of 91
omg, I'll be impressed if anyone even reads half of that post. Sorry. I realize I'm overreacting.

thinking about this a little more, I'm not even 100% sure whether I like him that much or if I just like myself in that situation. yk? I liked how it felt, I liked being confidant, and of course I adored all the attention and the being liked. this is so complicated.

Would it be a bad idea to call him?
post #29 of 91
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So, I said all that to ask: what do you think? Is he just trying to back off a little and take it slow? Was he just legitimately tired and I was crossing the line to expect to just intrude on his life like that? Is it possible that the sex was so bad he wanted to cut his loses? Did I freak him the heck out with my birth story and my somewhat sudden openness? Do you think he'll call me? What should I do?!
you know (and trust me, when d and i first started dating i couldn't take my own advice ) i try hard not to assume the worst. give him the benefit of the doubt; trust him when he tells you he's beat and just needs to recoup. assume that he's telling you the truth. the kiss on the cheek could be chivalry or maybe he's not much into pda's. i'm doubting it was 'bad' sex. didn't you say you dtd a second time that morning? he didn't boot you out immediately after the first time? i'm not much into games, so i'd give him a day to recoup and call him if you don't hear from him. my dad tells me to remember occam's razor (basically, the simplest answer is generally the correct one). the simple answer here is that he was tired. not that the sex was bad, he was freaked by your birth story, made up some big lie in order to not-dump you and went out to party.
post #30 of 91
Thanks SS. This is all good to hear. I need a lot of encouragement here, I think. But you're right, I need to not jump to conclusions and just calm the F down.

I like honesty and I hate games, but I always assume that everybody else is playing a game that I just don't get. I don't like to be mess with like that, it really freaks me out. But, you know, he could have just been honest and it could really be that simple. Hmmm. I do know that he voiced some concerns to a friend (I think I mentioned this before) about everything changing or moving to fast. So, there's probably that. I shouldn't do anything rash, and I should just wait it out, yes?
post #31 of 91
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Would it be a bad idea to call him?
Honestly, I would wait for him to call you. I have made that mistake too often. Give him some time and don't push it (jme)
post #32 of 91
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I like honesty and I hate games, but I always assume that everybody else is playing a game that I just don't get.


that sounds so weird when you write it out but i know EXACTLY what you mean.
post #33 of 91
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Honestly, I would wait for him to call you. I have made that mistake too often. Give him some time and don't push it (jme)
I think you're right, but I worry because he's kind of a passive guy, and I thought in the past it seemed that he didn't want to come off as too eager. We're a bad combination in that respect; we could easily just sit back and do nothing.
post #34 of 91
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I think you're right, but I worry because he's kind of a passive guy, and I thought in the past it seemed that he didn't want to come off as too eager. We're a bad combination in that respect; we could easily just sit back and do nothing.
I have been influenced by the book 'He's just not THAT into you' If he wants to contact you, he will find a way. I highly suggest that book!! (I am not saying that he is not into you, I just found behavior mentioned in that book that I have been guilty of that really turns people off)
post #35 of 91
thanks for the book rec. certainly all relationships should be give-and-take but i'm through thinking that i have to givegivegive from the start, in the "hopes" that a prospective partner will finally wise up and start giving back. if it's not equal footing from the start, i think there's bound to be trouble. i know almost everything negative between c's dad and i was present from day one and i don't want to establish patterns like that with new folks.
post #36 of 91
Thanks for the book rec belovedK. I'm going to call the library and reserve it. It will at least distract me. I'm being completely neurotic about this whole thing, and I'm having a really, really bad day on top of it. All I want to do is sit alone and cry. I think I will start maniacally cleaning my house and when I've proven to myself that there are, in fact, things in my life that I can control I will feel loads better. right?
post #37 of 91
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thanks for the book rec. certainly all relationships should be give-and-take but i'm through thinking that i have to givegivegive from the start, in the "hopes" that a prospective partner will finally wise up and start giving back. if it's not equal footing from the start, i think there's bound to be trouble. i know almost everything negative between c's dad and i was present from day one and i don't want to establish patterns like that with new folks.
I completely agree with you, cm. I'm going to try to keep this in mind. It's pointless to try to force a relationship that is, essentially doom to begin with. that's actually pretty comforting.
post #38 of 91
i totally understand the sentiment of waiting for the guy to call but in this current relationship (10 months in now, living together, raising our families together after a matter of a month or two... ) i decided to throw caution to the wind and be the aggressor. i decided hey, if he can't handle me asking him out, calling him to ask him out a second time, etc. he isn't the guy for me. i'm the type that likes to communicate. i'm a talker. i didn't want to mess around with games, or a guy who is threatened by a woman he can't 'chase.' of course, i've never dated in my life, was married to the man i met at 14 and am now repartnered with only the 2nd guy i went out with after my separation from my ex. what the hell do i know!? but do you know what i mean? don't force something that isn't there but maybe don't be afraid to call and say 'hey, am i forcing something that isn't there?' why wait around and wonder...
post #39 of 91
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I like honesty and I hate games, but I always assume that everybody else is playing a game that I just don't get. I don't like to be mess with like that, it really freaks me out. But, you know, he could have just been honest and it could really be that simple. Hmmm. I do know that he voiced some concerns to a friend (I think I mentioned this before) about everything changing or moving to fast. So, there's probably that. I shouldn't do anything rash, and I should just wait it out, yes?

Very very stressful!! I read recently that after dtd many men need to sit back and reflect on things, maybe he is doing that. The article also said that it is a good idea to give a little space for him to reflect.
post #40 of 91
I think long term partnered people still belong here. You still parent singlely. I am in a relationship as well, but I am still parent singley and technically we are "dating." Plus I learn so much from others, and I am glad when people share, it's very helpful.

I have been dating the same guy since January. We dated for 5 or 6 months last year taking a break in the fall, which was a good thing seeing where we are now. We had a stressful spring, but it brought us closer together. It's been going really well. It still feels so odd to have a boyfriend. I thought I would just have long term lover friends, compartmentalized from my family life. And it just doesn't seem to work for me (In the 4 years I have been single, I had one for almost a year but he wanted more, another for a several months but he also wanted different things. And current BF started off as one and then it just evolved somewhat unexpectedly).

The summer has been wonderful. The BF, the boy and I just went to the Cape for my birthday, and we had a wonderful time. This relationship is different from my others in that I am taking my time and savoring the relationship. The BF is a wonderful person, and I really love spending time with him. I learn so much from him, and I appreciate his presence in my life.


SS, you and I are on the same page. I despise game playing. I found being myself works best for me. I want a person to love me for who I am, flaws and all. I also think if someone is freaked out and runs because I call first then well it's them not me. And I probably did myself a favor. If being me is such a turn off, then I am better off finding someone more deserving. I learned giving the power away is not conducive to build an egalitarian relationship, and that's the kind of relationship I want.

Lunar, I also agree with SS that you should give him the benefit of the doubt. It's hard to know what someone if thinking. You can't assume anything, you just never know. People, especially men (and surely they would say the same), can be complicated! It's hard in the beginning--the unsureness can be frustrating.

Jrayn, I agree with caspian's mama, this sounds really normal. It sounds like it's going well though. I know the feeling of being rushed or not getting much time together--that's frustrating.


I know what you all mean though by when you are dating someone, it's suddenly raining possibilities. I have been pursued by several guys in the recent months. I am very flattered, but I am also very happy where I am. It does remind me that I should be true to myself and make sure I am happy because if not, I have options. Not that I want them right now.

I am glad to hear great dating stories and to hear people are doing so well. I hope August continues to treat you all well! I am visiting the family now and then headed back to the Cape so I won't be doing any dating or relationship stuff until September so August is relatively low key for me. Hope everyone has a wonderful one.
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