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Anyone else can't stand their pet?

post #1 of 106
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First let me say that I would never be mean to an animal. I would never do anything other than care for it, make sure it has the best vet care, healthy food, exercise, play etc....

But, I can not stand my dog. In fact, I dislike her so much she has taken a former dog lover and turned me into someone who will never again own a pet.

She is a 90lb lab who steals food off the counters all the time. If I'm making the kids breakfast and I turn my back for a second, she gets up on the counter and steals the food. If I'm making their lunch and I leave the loaf of bread on the counter while I go do something else, she steals the loaf of bread, takes it upstairs into a back bedroom and eats the entire thing.

If every cabinet and pantry door isn't shut tight, she can get in and steal food.

With 5 people in the family, it's nearly impossible to make sure every single piece of food is being supervised or locked down at every moment.

In the past two days, she's stolen 3 loaves of bread and two bags of goldfish crackers :

And the cheese! I adore really good, expensive cheese. I only buy a small amount and I savor it. But, I don't buy it any more after she stole it twice!!! I was slicing a bit of cheese, the phone rang and I walked away to get it and within 20 seconds, she has stolen the entire brick of cheese.

My kids can not walk around with a cracker or cheese stick in their hands as she is so big she can just take it out of their hands. I can not tell you how many times a day the kids come to me crying because the dog stole their cookie or cracker right out of their hand. We talk about keeping it up, sitting at the table etc.... but, the freaking dog is everywhere!!!

I try to put her outside and she barks and barks and barks and howls at the door. I have neighbors. So, I can't lock her out while I'm making food.

I try to crate her or put her in another room - again the howling and barking....I can not take it!

I know I need to make sure she's no where around when I'm making food but, with a family of 5 - there always seems to be food out somewhere.

Again, I will care for this dog til her dying day. I will give her attention, exercise, medical care etc.... but I swear, I will never, ever have another animal as long as I live.
post #2 of 106
You sounds like a seriously frustrated and stressed out pet owner.

What I can say is, all of these things *are* correctable with the right information, training and strategies for success. If they move this post to the pets forum (which I expect they will) you will get a lot of good information to help things get better. It's much less about the dog, and much more about the training.

Though, personally I'm a cat person because I know dogs are so much more work and cats are mostly self sufficient. Dogs don't default to "normal well behaved dogs", that's why they're so much work. It's all about training, exercise and a knowledgable pack ruler (or whatever the dog lingo is...it's been a couple of decades since we had a dog in our family)!
post #3 of 106
Me! I'm not a animal person, I hate animals. I'm sorry, I just dont dig them.

Unfortunately, my kids and husband love them and I'm outnumbered on that one. We have a lab and a cat. The dog thinks he's mine. Only listens to me most of the time and insists on sleeping on my side of the bed. If he's scared its me he comes running to. What gives? lol. We don't have issues with stealing food or anything like that though, he's pretty well trained.
post #4 of 106
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We've done so many training classes it's not even funny. She can sit and lay down with the best of them but other than that, she's not remotely interested in any of her training.

We practiced and practiced and practiced with her but, she just would never do it.

I think right now, we're just trying to survive her. We're probably not going to do anymore training - it's been a waste of time and money. Now we just need to survive........
post #5 of 106
Sneaks quietly in and sits on the bench next to you.


I don't like my dog at all. I love her, but I don't like her. She's a great watchdog, she lets the kids do anything to her in the name of love but man I am not meant to be a dog owner. Dh brought her home when ds was 6 months old, we were moving and both working. We did not have time for a dog. As a result she spent a lot of time outside When we moved she became an inside dog, but since we never really trained her she steals food and is awful on a leash. But she has to be on a leash outside, because she runs away. She's a puppy school drop out because dh stopped going. She's such a good dog despite her lack of attention. The kids play with her all the time, I walk her daily, ds makes sure she's fed and watered, dd gives her treats and lots of snuggles.

I try, because I know she loves me. She knew I was pregnant with dd before I did, I swear. She suddenly started sitting at my feet all the time. Followed me around the house constantly. It was really weird. Then when dd was born she was like Nana from Peter Pan. If dd cried she ran right to her. Once when ds was small someone came to our door that we didn't know, ds was sitting near the front door and I was in the bedroom at the end of the hall. She got between ds and the door and started snarling at the guy at the door to protect her baby.

But I really don't like her at all.
post #6 of 106
This makes me really uncomfortable.
post #7 of 106
Some of the time I hate my cat, and DH does even more. I'm allergic, she bothers us at night trying to get attention, swats or scratches DS, pees on things, and often pukes after eating.

But, when my allergies aren't acting up and she's being friendly I don't mind petting her. And she's been peeing on stuff less often lately and I got the stink out of everything. I feel it'd be irresponsible to give her away so, she's staying.
post #8 of 106
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Originally Posted by avengingophelia View Post
This makes me really uncomfortable.
Why?

I would think it would make you uncomfortable if I said I wasn't going to care for her anymore or that I was trying to give her away.

The problem with dogs - especially ones you get as a puppy - you have no idea if their personality is going to mesh with your family. You hope and pray that it does but, it's a crap shoot.

I've owned lots of dogs before and I've never had one so overtly disobedient. I've never had one who could not be disciplined, who didn't care at all about rewards and training etc...

This dog just doesn't mesh with our family. It happens. But, even though she tries my patience every day, I will care for her, play with her, feed her, make sure she has vet care etc.... and my kids adore her.

She has no idea I don't like her and I would never do anything to show that I didn't like her.

Well, I guess other then write a vent post about how I'm so sick of all the food stealing. Other than that, no one would know how I feel about this dog.
post #9 of 106
You need to read The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell and The Other End of the Leash by Patricia McConnell. It will give you tons of insight on why your dog is acting like she is and how to correct. Dogs are a lot of work and need constant training.

I hope this doesn't come off harsh but your dog is acting this way because you let her. Please spend some time reading and training so you can fix this relationship. You owe it to her.
post #10 of 106
Try two cockatiels for truly annoying pets!

Sure, they are pretty to look at and it is interesting having them sit on your hand or shoulder. Even their annoyingly loud chirping isn't constantly a bother. Other than that, birds make fairly dull pets.

However, they put out so much damned powder dust and feathers it is amazing. I have to dust my living room every. single, day. I have to vacuum the living room every. single. day. (Thank goodness for Roomba, at least I don't have to drag-out my big upright daily). Go on vacation for a week and it is frightening to see what the room looks like!!

They get bathed regularly, have an excellent diet and I change their cage twice a week. It is just their nature to produce this fine white powder that clings to every surface, horizontal or vertical!

Add to it, they live very long lives................I'll be cleaning up their powder and feathers for, probably, 20 more years.
post #11 of 106
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Originally Posted by JamieCatheryn View Post
Some of the time I hate my cat, and DH does even more. I'm allergic, she bothers us at night trying to get attention, swats or scratches DS, pees on things, and often pukes after eating.

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Oh heavens! Do I feel your pain about this.... Our dog sleeps in our room and probably 4 out of 7 nights she wakes me up because she wants to go outside and pee. Or, she starts heaving. She is a very pukey dog - probably becasuse of all the food she steals. But, I will wake up to the sound of her heaving and I have to jump up, drag her by the collar down stairs trying to get her outside before she pukes. All the while she is spilling green bile out of her mouth all over the carpet.

Yes, I have taken her to the vet. There is nothing wrong with her - she is just a pukey dog. The vet said labs tend to be pukey because they are notorious food stealers.

Just last night she woke me up 3 times to go out and pee, to get back in our room and then to go out again. I am exhausted.
post #12 of 106
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Originally Posted by MidnightCommando View Post
You need to read The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell and The Other End of the Leash by Patricia McConnell. It will give you tons of insight on why your dog is acting like she is and how to correct. Dogs are a lot of work and need constant training.

I hope this doesn't come off harsh but your dog is acting this way because you let her. Please spend some time reading and training so you can fix this relationship. You owe it to her.
I haven't read that particular book but, we have done several rounds of training starting at the time she was 6 months. We've done clicker training, we've had someone come to the house - we've done a lot of training. She has absolutely no interest in training, rewards mean nothing to her. We really have tried training. In fact one of our trainers said that some dogs are really, really difficult to train and we have one of them.
post #13 of 106
My dog pukes up water every time she drinks. It makes me insane. I don't hate her though... She annoys me less than most kids do.
post #14 of 106
Actually, I feel sad reading this thread too, because so many of the things that people are describing here are either behaviours that can be corrected completely or seriously helped to the point where it doesn't cause so much stress their lives.
post #15 of 106
I feel sad for any creature living in a family where s/he isn't loved.
post #16 of 106
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Originally Posted by avengingophelia View Post
I feel sad for any creature living in a family where s/he isn't loved.
I love my dog... but I dislike (and sometimes hate him, lmao) him as well. And he is definitely loved by everyone else in the house. Some people just aren't animal people, or there are matches that aren't right. Doesn't mean they are unloved or uncared for.

And as much as I dislike my dog, I couldn't really picture him with anyone else or not a part of our family.
post #17 of 106
There's a lot more to training than teaching a dog to sit and roll over. It's an attitude, and there's so much more you can be doing. Simple things like feeding and walks can be changed around to show your dog who's boss. Stealing food is not cool, and sets up some more bad behaviors.

Also, why not crate the dog in the same room for the time being? The dog should stay more quiet, and food isn't stolen. I don't allow my dogs in the kitchen while I'm preparing food or eating, and it makes it a much more peaceful experience. I also don't leave any food where a dog (or cat) can get to it while I'm not around. It's just the way it is.
post #18 of 106
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Originally Posted by avengingophelia View Post
I feel sad for any creature living in a family where s/he isn't loved.
She is very loved. The children shower her with love - the play with her constantly. And, when it's not 110 outside, we walk or ride bikes with her every day.

I give her attention as well - she lays by me and I rub her and scratch her ears.

She is not a neglected dog.

Like the PP said - not every dog meshes with every personality. This dog doesn't mesh but, she will be loved and cared for until her dying day.

And, again, we have tried training. We've spent and enormous amount of time and money on training and we have practiced and practiced with her.

Some dogs are very difficult to train. According to a trainer - we have one of them. It's just how it is.

And the crating thing - we've tried crating her in the same room - she barks and howls no matter where she is in the crate. She always has - from puppyhood on. Even if she can see us, she still freaks in the crate. The noise is deafening and I can not take it.
post #19 of 106
Baby gates are awesome too. I don't like crates, the thought of being put in a crate freaks me out, so I couldn't do it to the dog either. (I'm kinda clausterphobic) We got baby gates instead and while training him quaranteined areas that we didn't want him in and he couldn't steal food and such either.
post #20 of 106
You had to know that the dog people would come over to this thread .

I want to say that it is totally OK, and totally normal, to have different levels of attachment to different pets. Since I have multiple dogs, and will always have multiple dogs, and since I keep puppies based on their suitability as show dogs rather than my emotional connection to them, there are definitely dogs that I have not had a heavy deep and real connection to. In my house right now the dogs are VERY different and I know which one I would save first in a fire.

So don't feel like you have to be *in love* with your pet. Some of them you do get that level of attachment to and some of them you just don't.

However, what I'm reading isn't about not connecting to who the dog *is*; I'm reading a hatred of what the dog DOES. Which is totally different, and absolutely 100% able to be solved. Every dog can be trained, and where they cannot be trained they can be managed (in other words, physically controlled with objects like crates, fences, etc.).

This isn't the thread or the board that would be appropriate for giving training or management advice, but I would love to see any dog-haters (or cat-haters) over at the pets board (it's way down deep under "Green Living," somewhat to my dismay--I think it should be on the same level as the parenting sections). We really will bend over backwards to help your pet be happier and more obedient.
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