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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I was in a major department store (should I say the name?) a few weeks ago, waiting for Dh to finish trying clothes on, and DD started to fuss to nurse. I looked for a comfy place to sit, where we wouldn't be distracted (no problem NIP, but DD is highly distractable), and I spotted a fitting room with a comfy chair. So I sat down, locked it, and began to nurse. I was almost done when I heard a woman's voice say, "anyone in there?" I said, "I am," and she responded, this is a children's fitting room, you'll have to use the adult room.
And I said, "I am just feeding my baby, I'll be right out."
She said, "Oh, you'll have to use the ladies' room for THAT."
I said, "No I won't!"
And when I came out, two seconds later, she shot me a dirty look. The thing is, I would never have used it if people were waiting, I know how annoying it is to wait- but there was almost no one in the store, and there were 5 or 6 emtpy rooms. I never said I was BFing, just because it doesn' t occur to me that someone would NOT bf. But I guessed, from her reaction, that she knew what I was doing (why would someone go in a private place to FF?). When I came out I told her that according to city code 9-1105 I could nurse wherever I could be, and she said it was a kid's room, which I am not allowed to be in, technically. I said that my daughter was allowed, though, and I was simply accompanying her.
This woman would have had me go to the restroom, which is unacceptable to me. I then just plopped down right outside the door and she gave me a dirty look, but I asked if she wanted to be sued, and she shut up.
So the thing is, can they technically kick me out for nursing somewhere where I am technically not supposed to be? I mean, parents go in there all the time to help kids try stuff on. ANd it was obvious, since the rooms were ALL empty, that she just didn't like the idea of me nursing a kid, let alone a toddler.
Any thoughts? -Sarah
post #2 of 22
Complain. In writing. If they don't say very nice apologetic things in response call down the wrath of lactating women on them!!!
post #3 of 22
--- reading that really pissed me off


for you saying what you did! that was awesome!

I second KM. Write a letter. That was very rude and very unneccesary.
post #4 of 22
you are soo BRAVE! While I NIP I have yet to have someone actually confront me. I do stick out my tongue to ppl that stare though and it lightens up the situation.

I was very proud of our little local mall though, they installed a womans room which consists of really nice reclining chairs, a changing table and a private bathroom with a little stepstool for the kiddos!

Melissa
post #5 of 22
Follow upi with a letter to management (the store AND the mall management) with date, time, and description of the woman. If nothing else, it's on the record then.

Sounds like you can stick up for yourself well! Good for you!
post #6 of 22
Write.

Makes no sense, though. They don't allow adults to accompany the children trying on clothes in the fitting room? As in parents?

Write aggressively. Then post here with a company name & let us write some more.

Go ahead. Make our day. :LOL
post #7 of 22
Well, she was totally out of line to tell you to use the ladies' room.

However, you have a right to go into the children's changing room with a child who is trying on clothes. If you were in there doing that and happened to be nursing a baby in a sling, you'd be nursing in a place you otherwise had a right to be. That's not why you went in there.

I'd say you had every right to sit in the middle of the store to breastfeed. You did not have a "right" to breastfeed in the changing room. However, common sense would suggest that it was idiotic to piss you off by rudely telling you to feed your baby in a public toilet, especially since NO ONE ELSE WAS WAITING TO USE THE ROOM!
post #8 of 22
Go Mama!

but I asked if she wanted to be sued, and she shut up.

I so love this.

Basically ITA with Ulrike.
post #9 of 22
Definately write a letter - both to the local store and their national headquarters. I can't believe someone treated you that way - I'm appalled! (Well - were you at the KOP mall? If so, I can certainly believe it - it's the only place I've ever gotten dirty looks).
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
It was not KOP, it was Burlington Coatfactory in downtown Philly. I thought that technically, since I am not supposed to be in the room unless she is trying on clothes, they could ask me to leave the room. But not ask me to go to the ladies' room. KWIM?
post #11 of 22
I second (or third or fourth ) the write a letter thought. It really, really infuriates me when people expect me to feed my baby (or anyone else to feed their baby) in a place where people go to eliminate. Do adults eat in the bathroom...ESPECIALLY a PUBLIC bathroom? Bull****. Do people not understand how many germs are in a bathroom...and they want you to FEED your child there????? WHAT IDIOTS. DISGUSTING, THAT IS WHAT IT IS........


:Puke
post #12 of 22
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Originally posted by MissinNYC
It was not KOP, it was Burlington Coatfactory in downtown Philly. I thought that technically, since I am not supposed to be in the room unless she is trying on clothes, they could ask me to leave the room. But not ask me to go to the ladies' room. KWIM?
That's a bit ironic. One of the first places I ever BFIP was BCF. I was sitting on a bench right outside the changing rooms (I think my mom was inside), and a sales clerk said I could use one of the changing rooms if I wanted. :LOL
post #13 of 22
"You can breastfeed anywhere you have the right to be"

I think you are taking this WAY too harshly, if you think that you might have overstepped your rights because its is CHILD's, not a ladies' changeroom.

Would it be ILLEGAL for you to be in a child's change room? No way, nursing or not. Would a store ever charge a person with trespassing for being in a change room not specifically for them? No. (Unless you were vandalizing it, or loitering, or something). Places of business (retail stores, restuarants) are pretty much considered public spaces. Customers have the legal right to be there.

At least that's my interpretation of that portion of the law. Its just a cover your butt phrase, to mean that you can't get away with trepassing by breastfeeding.

Janice
post #14 of 22
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Originally posted by merpk
Write.

Makes no sense, though. They don't allow adults to accompany the children trying on clothes in the fitting room? As in parents?

Write aggressively. Then post here with a company name & let us write some more.

Go ahead. Make our day. :LOL
Go Amy! I was thinking the same thing. Children are aloowed *unattended* in dressing rooms? Weirdos?

Have you heard anything about this yet mama?
post #15 of 22
I think that you have the right to be in a child's dressing room. There are lots of moms in the children's dressing rooms. No one would just send a small child in there alone.

However, I think that they could ask you to go somewhere else if you weren't using it for trying on clothes. It would be unbelievably rude and stupid if no one was waiting, as was your case, but I do think they could do it. They could kick somebody out for reading a book in the fitting room because that's not what it's there for. It's designated for trying on clothes.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think you did anything wrong or that they should have asked you to leave. There wasn't anyone there waiting, and I'm sure they would have preferred for you to nurse in the dressing room instead of just sitting in the middle of the floor in somewhere more public, which you would definitely be legally able to do. If I were in your shoes, I would definitely write letters. They at least owe you an apology.
post #16 of 22
WHAT IS IT WITH BURLINGTON COAT FACTORY?????

It is the only place on God's green earth I've *ever* been asked not to breast feed. And I've done it everywhere too. I was sitting on a bench outside the ladies dressing room.... the only reason the bench was there was for people who were waiting. I wasn't holding *anyone* up. They asked me to go into a stall and lock the door, or go to the bathroom. I told them I was comfortable where I was. They kept pressing me about it, and I finally asked them to *leave me alone* and they did.

Geeeeeeeezzzzzz.
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the support. I think that asking me to not feed her in the Fitting Room would have been okay if she had not asked me to go to the bathrooom. It was obvious that she just didn't want me to nurse, at all.
IN fact, while I was there, we were being helped by a saleswoman who was fawning all over DD, saying how well behaved she was, etc, and asked if she still took a bottle. I said that she didn't take one, and she was all impressed, saying how I must have taken the bottle away very well. Didn't she get the shock of her life when I said DD had never had a bottle and didn't know what they are. She looked really confused and then it dawned on her.. "OH!" I had to laugh at her ignorance.
I think I will write a letter. It wasn't a huge deal or an inconvenience, but I was annoyed because it might have affected a woman who was less firm in her desire to nurse. Thanks for the help!
post #18 of 22
nak

Go Sara! Be sure to post your letter and the address so we can write them too. Funny, I was just in a BCF the other day and nursed. Companies should really let their employees know the laws about NIP, they are really opening themselves up to a lawsuit by letting ignorant people deal with the nursing public!
post #19 of 22
Good on you for standing up for yourself!

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she said it was a kid's room, which I am not allowed to be in,
What a stupid woman. I hope you write to her management. They need to know how stupid their employees are. What kind of dept. store doesn't allow parents to be in a fitting room with their child?

OK the purpose of the fitting room IS to try on clothes but what the hell is the purpose of the ladies room??? I thought it was for peeing and pooping in.

I don't like Burlington Coat Factory - been in my local one twice - first time the toilets were filthy, second time they were closed for renovations. And it takes forever to get through the check out - if you wanna kill time in that shop, I'd recommend nursing in the checkout line.
post #20 of 22
wtg mama!
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