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post #21 of 63
We waited 17 hours before going into the birthing center. We left when contractions were 5 minutes apart because we lived a few towns over and would take awhile. I can't speak for everyone, but I had a great experience and am glad I went to a birthing center. DS was not breathing when he was born.
post #22 of 63
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Originally Posted by Girlprof View Post
Really, I just totally knew when it was time.


I have a l.5 hour drive to the hospital. . . well, a bit over an hour when in heavy-duty labour!

With my first, I arrived there far too early. Five hours before I was ready to push. I was worried about the long drive, and how long it would take for us to drop our two dogs off at our friends. :

But in my other three deliveries, I "just knew". There's nothing more charted or executed than that. Sorry. Each time, we would be puttering at home in labour, collecting the last few things to the car and getting my accompanying SIL into town. Then suddenly, there would be a subtle, but noticeable shift, in me saying, "We need to get in the car and leave NOW". I arrived at the hospital:
  • 50 minutes before the birth of #2
  • crowning with #3 (would have been born sooner, but I was still seated in the car as we swept in to city limits).
  • 45 minutes before birth of #4 (Twin A). We had planned to go to a more distant hospital, but didn't get that far.
post #23 of 63
Well if hypnobabies works as well for you as it did for me there wasn't a time at all where I felt like I was even close to having a baby which is why I ended up with a (totally awesome) surprise UC. But I was planning a homebirth so it was just awesome and not scary or anything.

ETA: No one, not my dh, not my mom, and not my midwives if they had been there would have known how far along I was just by being around me. I was totally silent, unmoving, not making any sounds at all, laying over my birth ball. My mom said my face was totally relaxed so they didn't even know if I was contracting any more (I was).
post #24 of 63
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Originally Posted by JennTheMomma View Post
We waited 17 hours before going into the birthing center. We left when contractions were 5 minutes apart because we lived a few towns over and would take awhile. I can't speak for everyone, but I had a great experience and am glad I went to a birthing center. DS was not breathing when he was born.
Just FYI, but homebirth midwives typically carry and have all the same equipment that a birth center does.
post #25 of 63
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Originally Posted by ruthmg View Post
I'm not the OP, but I, personally, have had chronic hypertension since I was 20. I need to give birth at the hospital because I want someone there in case I start having major BP problems.
So I'd think you needed to be there right away not just for the end.

What I'm saying is if you consider it unsafe to deliver at home then how is laboring at home any safer? Its not as if the only complications happen while pushing.

the only benefit I can see is that the shorter time you are there the less time they have to intervene and screw it up.
post #26 of 63
I kind of agree with what's the point of just going for pushing, but I totally understand not wanting to be at the hospital for the labor. I used Hypnobabies for my first birth in a hospital. My water broke and I ended up going in within a few hours. I was contracting but only 1 cm when I got there at 6 pm. It took almost 2 hours to get me settled in... I had monitoring and answered a million questions. After the nurse left, I noticed things picking up. It was 8 pm. I was pushing at 10 pm.

You will be handling labor differently and will probably not appear to be as far along as you are. I didn't even know I was going through transition until it was over and they declared I was 10 cm. EVERYONE was surprised. In fact, they didn't have my hep lock in and hadn't drawn my blood yet, so they were rushing around doing that during my precious 15 min break in contractions before I started pushing. Being so relaxed, your labor is also likely to go very quickly like mine. There are so many stories of that happening with Hypnobabies. Soooooo, I don't know... When you're doing Hypnobabies it's not so obvious when it's time to go. I will say that the time that my contractions were noticable enough to require my full concentration, it would have been too late.

I am having a home birth with a midwife this time. #1) I know I would want to stay home as long as possible and would probably end up having the baby in the car this time, or just show up for pushing, and what's the point of that? #2) I hated the hospital stay.
post #27 of 63
I totally agree with Megan and have always sort of wondered what the perceived benefit of going to the hospital to push vs. having a homebirth midwife come to YOU for the whole shebang. Not UC, mind you, but just a homebirth. Especially for the mama with blood pressure issues. Your BP could be potentially dangerous at any point during labor, not just pushing...so is it truly safe to wait around at home that long?

In my mind it seems far safer to have some level of fetal heart rate/mama monitoring during labor than none. Just my opinion and I would love for someone to explain that to me. I know there are a few modalities of childbirth education that actively encourage this and it has never sat well with me. I think it's fantastic to show up on the later side, don't get me wrong...like a 6 vs. a 3, for example. But waiting until you're pushing seems very odd.

It feels funny to me that I would NOT be comfortable doing that, and yet people who choose to often say they would NOT feel comfortable with a homebirth which seems far safer to me. Thoughts?
post #28 of 63
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It feels funny to me that I would NOT be comfortable doing that, and yet people who choose to often say they would NOT feel comfortable with a homebirth which seems far safer to me. Thoughts?
I am one of those planning on staying home as long as poss before going to the hospitial. My 1st birth was in a freestanding birth center with 2 very experienced midwives - and it all went wrong and ended with a C. I felt like if I had "the next best thing" to a homebirth situation and it went wrong then there's no way I'm trusting a homebirth which in fact would be an HBAC for me. The hospital I'm delivering at also has a high level NICU "just in case". I like knowing it's there if I need it. I'm now living in a different state from the 1st birth and of the handful of local women I know who had Csections locally literally 4 out of 5 were homebirth transfers. I'm not knocking homebirth but there is another side to the coin and several pps in this thread were puzzled why we don't all just push at home.
post #29 of 63
With #4 I labored at home as long as possible. I was actually packing and it took me soooo long to pack (even with dh helping) because I had to stop every 2 minutes and breathe through hard contractions. By the time I got to the hospital I was an 8, almost 9. Baby was born an hour or so later.

It was funny because my m/w was 2 hours away from being off her shift and the other midwife taking over (which happens at 7am). So I woke her up 2 hours before her shift was to end and she waited to hear from the nurse in the birthing center before she made the trip to see how far along I was. The nurse was like, um... you better get here because she's going to have this baby very soon! She was awesome though and it was my best birth experience!
post #30 of 63
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Originally Posted by ~Megan~ View Post
I'm not sure what the point is of going to the hospital just for pushing.
For me, a couple of reasons. I want to spend most of the labor at home to avoid most interventions (and the hospital I use is really good about being hands off, but whatever I can do to avoid the poking and prodding works for me).

Also, for me, I'm just more comfortable having the birth at a hospital if only so me/my family wouldn't have a mess to clean up. Plus, I have to say I really enjoy the "after care" from the nurses. I like having the female help of being cleaned up (something I'd be mortified to have my dh help me do) as well as having meals brought to me .

It was my intention to get there late for all 3. With the first one, not having been in labor before, I actually got there super early - labored for 28 hours at the hospital The second one I got there at 9AM and gave birth at 4PM, so I probably should have stayed home a bit more.

The third one happened really quickly and I got to the hospital about an hour before she came out (and she was almost born in the toilet - it's a really fun birth story ). The midwife had enough time to monitor me for a bit and check me. I didn't think I was so close to birth when we went in and if my dh hadn't insisted we go in, she probably would have been born at home - or in the car!
post #31 of 63
There seem to be some common misconceptions about home birth on here. I have never known someone to have a homebirth with a midwife who didn't do the cleaning up. Heck, I had an accidental UC, and when my midwife did finally arrive (around 20-30 mins later) she still did all the clean up, checked me over, did a load of laundry, got me some fresh sheets, and made me some lunch and got me some water.
post #32 of 63
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Originally Posted by Shelsi View Post
There seem to be some common misconceptions about home birth on here. I have never known someone to have a homebirth with a midwife who didn't do the cleaning up. Heck, I had an accidental UC, and when my midwife did finally arrive (around 20-30 mins later) she still did all the clean up, checked me over, did a load of laundry, got me some fresh sheets, and made me some lunch and got me some water.
I never doubted that a midwife would do the initial cleanup

I would not feel comfortable having someone do a load of my laundry or cook in my kitchen. And I would feel pressure to do that stuff for myself if I was at home.

I love the option of homebirth, but I know me (heck, I've know me pretty well for 33 years now ) and I know that what works best for me is to birth at the hospital. I'm very lucky that my midwives are great and birthing unit at my hospital is run more like a birthing center and each of my births went exactly how I wanted (2 were completely natural - and well, the first, I didn't know any better).

Had I had anything other than a completely pleasant experience, I might be singing a different tune.
post #33 of 63
My water broke at 3 am and I labored at home until around 11:30 am. (As soon as water broke, contractions started at 3 minutes apart). Around 11:30 I started feeling like they were getting really intense and maybe I needed some more support. Called the midwife, who said to come in another hour. 10 minutes later I was puking all over and I realized I was further along than I thought.

We went to the birth center then- by the time we got there I was 6 cm (it was 1pm) and baby was born at 4:30.

So my short answer- when I started feeling like I needed the support (really the birth tub!!!!!!!!!!!)!
post #34 of 63
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Originally Posted by AmieV View Post
It feels funny to me that I would NOT be comfortable doing that, and yet people who choose to often say they would NOT feel comfortable with a homebirth which seems far safer to me. Thoughts?
That's what I was thinking, too. It seems like if there's going to be a (non-iatrogenic) problem, it's more likely to happen during labor than pushing. You'd almost be 'safer' laboring in the hospital and then going home to push, than vice versa, assuming you had to pick one or the other.
post #35 of 63
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Originally Posted by paquerette View Post
That's what I was thinking, too. It seems like if there's going to be a (non-iatrogenic) problem, it's more likely to happen during labor than pushing. You'd almost be 'safer' laboring in the hospital and then going home to push, than vice versa, assuming you had to pick one or the other.
In some weird fantasy of mine that would be so funny to do! Show up at the hospital, get all the monitors and IV's and such, then when I was about to push just take the monitors and IV's off, say "Thanks!" and hop off the bed and drive home to have my baby lol.
post #36 of 63
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm also doing Hynobabies and plan on laboring at home. One of my MW said it's up to whenever I feel the need to go. She said to take into account:

Time to get to hospital
Admission time (I pre-registered, so it will be a lot shorter)
The fact that when I first get there, I'll have to deal with at least some questions/monitoring/checking/paperwork

She suggested that when ctx are 60-90 sec long, I can't talk through them, and they're a couple minutes apart. I'll also probably check myself before I go.
post #37 of 63
If I lived 2 minutes from the hospital I'd leave w/ the urge to push. Not much room to get messed with that way. I also agree about just staying home period. How cool is it to have freedom to labor however you want to through the whole thing, to not have to worry about fighting hospital staff? I don't get why more women don't see the beauty and common sense in that! There is a wonderful option between hospital & UC-hiring a midwife.
post #38 of 63
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I don't know... our plan was to wait "as long as possible" with our first. But then when labor started, it did not take on a regular pattern. I couldn't time my contractions... it just felt like all around cramping. I was shivering and shaking with fever, which didn't sound like any normal pg symptoms I'd read about. (I'd read about fevers after water had broken, or when you have epis.. but in "prelabor?") I'd planned on having my doula help me read emotional sign posts to help me decide when to go to the hospital... but then I got freaked out by the fever, and we decided to just go there, and have her meet us there. So, we kinda panicked.
I just thought I would throw in my two cents here that this happens over and over with my doula clients. They plan to stay at home and I am talking with them by phone and even suggesting that I come over and the next call is "meet us at the hospital" and they are usually not very dilated when we get there. I know it's hard to know and it can even be hard for the doula to know exactly what is going on but if you hire one, she should be able to help some.
post #39 of 63
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Originally Posted by AmieV View Post
I totally agree with Megan and have always sort of wondered what the perceived benefit of going to the hospital to push vs. having a homebirth midwife come to YOU for the whole shebang.
For those of us living in Illinois, homebirth midwives are nearly impossible to come by. Homebirth is practically a felony in this state.
post #40 of 63
People have all sorts of reasons for going to the hospital. Do we need to hijack this thread with that and make those who want/have to go to the hospital explain and defend their reasons? I had my reasons for going, but I was durned if I was going to go early and be interfered with all along my labor process. Turning up in transition or ready to push gives the hospital very little time to mess with you. It worked great for me and I had a terrific birth. Let's be supportive of those who need to do a hospital birth for whatever reason.
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