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post #1 of 10
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My DD is in a PS enrichment program this year, only one day a week. The dress code is preposterous. It manages to be vague and sexist all at once. One could interpret it as allowing girls to wear boxers and sagged pants, while boys can wear cut-off tank tops and short-shorts, but not vice versa. It also says no one may be dressed "immodestly", without giving much of an idea of their definition of this (except for the sag pants on boys and details of all the kinds of tops girls can't wear and length their skirts/shorts must be.)

I'm debating whether to complain about it. Life would be simpler if they just instituted a uniform, a polo-shirt-and-khakis type thing that would be clear and leave no room for interpretation and me wishing I had an older boy with my sense of humor to help me directly test the idiocy of the code.
post #2 of 10
I'd complain. I'm a big, big fan of school uniforms anyhow, but this just sounds daft.
post #3 of 10
I'm just smiling remembering our dress code. We used to have to kneel on the floor to test whether our skirt was more than 4" above our knee with a yardstick. And you could wear polos but not sleeveless and so the kids would roll up the short sleeves on the polos. Now I hear the girls wear brightly colored g-strings under their appropriate-length skirts and flash whenever they can. I love the idea of a boy coming to school wearing short-shorts and a tank top, lol. THat would rock.
post #4 of 10
The dress code around here is a little ridiculous too. The straps on tanktops have to be at least three fingers wide, and it drives me absolutely insane because dd only wears the tanktops with thin straps, the other ones bug her. Seriously, what's immodest about a well fitting tanktop with thin straps? I can see it if it's some kind of ultra low cut thing where the grade 8 girls boobs are almost falling out, but that's not what the dress code says.

My old neighbour got a call from her school because her dd wore a pair of jeans to school that had a small hole in the knee. Apparently it could be associated with gang activity. Uhm...she was in grade two.
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by maliceinwonderland View Post
The dress code around here is a little ridiculous too. The straps on tanktops have to be at least three fingers wide, and it drives me absolutely insane because dd only wears the tanktops with thin straps, the other ones bug her. Seriously, what's immodest about a well fitting tanktop with thin straps? I can see it if it's some kind of ultra low cut thing where the grade 8 girls boobs are almost falling out, but that's not what the dress code says.
The ultra-conservative uptight christian women in charge thinks that the IDEA that someone MIGHT see a bra-strap (OMG the horror!) is what is driving that stupid rule.

And I say this as a conservative christian woman, who is not uptight, and actually wore a STRAPLESS wedding gown (OMG the horror!) and LOVE to wear those camis (usually under another top), and have had more than one tiff with these ridiculous people over whether or not I am "modest enough" because my nipples "show" through my TWO shirts AND a bra. :

These are the same women that treat the words "gynocologist", "Pap smear", "vagina" or "vulva", "breasts", "penis", and "urologist" as though they were dirty, dirty swear words. No, you need to say "lady doctor", "lady exam", "lady bits", "chest", "man bits", and "men's doctor". Oh yes.

So, just for fun, I like to try to slip in at least one "gynocologist" and two "vulvas" into each conversation. :
post #6 of 10
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Our dress code specifies two inch width on straps. Which is kind of dumb because that's going to look very different on an 8th grader than on my Ker who still wears toddler sizes half the time! And again, only for girls.

The truth is, with the exception of a skirt or two that she's on the verge of outgrowing, DD doesn't have any clothes that would violate the dress code as is. I'm just very annoyed by the double standard, and by the vagueness of other bits. Such as "may not wear shirts promoting products inappropriate for the age of the student or the school setting". Now, where I grew up there was a ban on tobacco/alcohol adverts on clothes, which made sense. But the way it's worded at DD's program is so vague. No heavy metal T's from Hot Topic? How about stuff with religious statements? They don't say.
post #7 of 10
Dress codes are stupid. They make schools looks Stalinesque. They seem to be invariably badly written to the point where you have to expend immeasurable energy enforcing it or there is no point to the code. I much prefer a flat out, sensible uniform- Polo shirts/sweaters and khaki pants for both girls and boys. (Skirts aren't always practical).

And Llamaluv, as a fellow Christian, if you would like a buddy to rile up your friends, give me a call.
post #8 of 10
Periwinkle - The idea of a teacher making a student kneel down so the 4 inches of bare knee below a skirt can be measured - ugh, that is SO wrong.
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by llamalluv View Post
The ultra-conservative uptight christian women in charge thinks that the IDEA that someone MIGHT see a bra-strap (OMG the horror!) is what is driving that stupid rule.

And I say this as a conservative christian woman, who is not uptight, and actually wore a STRAPLESS wedding gown (OMG the horror!) and LOVE to wear those camis (usually under another top), and have had more than one tiff with these ridiculous people over whether or not I am "modest enough" because my nipples "show" through my TWO shirts AND a bra. :

These are the same women that treat the words "gynocologist", "Pap smear", "vagina" or "vulva", "breasts", "penis", and "urologist" as though they were dirty, dirty swear words. No, you need to say "lady doctor", "lady exam", "lady bits", "chest", "man bits", and "men's doctor". Oh yes.

So, just for fun, I like to try to slip in at least one "gynocologist" and two "vulvas" into each conversation. :
People probably wouldn't believe it, but I'm fairly conservative as well

While fashion-wise, bra straps showing are considered tacky (except when they are in style ) I just don't see teenage boys going wild because they happened to catch a glimpse of one. I guess I'll have to verify with my SO
post #10 of 10
I dislike uniforms.

The dress code that the schools here follow isn't bad, I have no issues with it.

Nothing with profanity/alcohol
No spaghetti straps(they do not give a width)
No halter tops
pants/shorts/skirts & tops must meet at the waist
no swimsuits

I know a couple of people who have an issue with the spaghetti strap/halters, but really there are so many clothes out there & in our schools it is not super hot when the kids are in schools. They CAN wear them if they have a sweater/cardigan or something overtop.

I don't have a problem with starting a dress code like this in the early years. There are girls in Grades 4-6 who DO have large enough breasts where it could seem revealing, but more because by the time the kids get into those ages it's already common.
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