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post #1 of 7
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I posted some questions about my fil mjolk in this thread. I have looked all over the web for info about it & can't find anything useful. I wish Dom had a site about fil mjolk that was as informative as his kefir site.

Can anyone suggest any yahoo groups or WAPF groups that have a lot of dairy culture knowledge?
post #2 of 7
Hello Metasequoia,

I saw your post about filmjölk when I googled "sour milk fil mjolk".
I recently bought a viilli and filmjölk culture and I'm also looking for some instructions.
Two days ago when I got these two cultures I made around 50 grams of my own viilli and filmjölk (or at least I thought I made them)
I was really happy, so I just put some more milk hoping that the next day I'd have around 200 grams of each.
Unfortunately the place where I left it was under direct sunlight for a couple of hours. So after 24 hours my viilli and filmjölk were still not as solid as they were the first time I made them, and I've decided to let it sit for 12 more hours.
Now they are still pretty runny, and I do not know whether I'm drinking just sour milk or viilli and filmjölk. Besides the fact that they were under a direct sunlight and that I left them sit for around 36 hours, I also put milk directly from the fridge (and I still do not know what is the suggested milk temperature for the process)
Anyway, I'm going to try to resurrect my cultures with some whole milk, and see if I can still use them or not.
I'd also like to ask someone for a photo or a video of these two cultures.
I've seen viilli on youtube, and it looks like a slimy yogurt. Do I need to use half and half to get my viilli look like that. And what about the differencies in texture when using different kinds of milk (fat - free vs. 3,9% fat).
And while I have some clue on how my viilli should be like more or less, I have no clue about what kind of texture - taste to expect from filmjölk...

someone help us please
post #3 of 7
I had a filmjolk (sorry, I don't know how to make the umlaut) starter that I got from a friend, and while I was using that the result was thick and smooth, much less lumpy than kefir has ever been when I've made it, tart but not as sour/yeasty as kefir, more like a yogurt flavor. I loved it. I made the filmjolk with full-fat raw milk straight out of the refrigerator, left to culture on the counter for about 12 hours, the temp in my house is usually between 65-80 degrees F (depending on season). That culture only lasted about 6 or 8 months, and then it seemed to fizzle out, or maybe got out-competed by the other organisms in the raw milk, it wouldn't thicken as much anymore, had more of a plain sour milk flavor, and separated into curds and whey more readily instead of being a thick, smooth texture. I don't have a new filmjolk culture yet, I stopped trying to use the old one because I didn't like it that way. My friend who gave me the culture originally said she's had to order a new culture several times, that the filmjolk culture is more like yogurt in that you need to periodically get a "clean" starter to keep the characteristics the same. Kefir is more durable and consistent, but I just don't like it as well as filmjolk.
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Originally Posted by AJP View Post
I had a filmjolk (sorry, I don't know how to make the umlaut) starter that I got from a friend, and while I was using that the result was thick and smooth, much less lumpy than kefir has ever been when I've made it, tart but not as sour/yeasty as kefir, more like a yogurt flavor. I loved it. I made the filmjolk with full-fat raw milk straight out of the refrigerator, left to culture on the counter for about 12 hours, the temp in my house is usually between 65-80 degrees F (depending on season). That culture only lasted about 6 or 8 months, and then it seemed to fizzle out, or maybe got out-competed by the other organisms in the raw milk, it wouldn't thicken as much anymore, had more of a plain sour milk flavor, and separated into curds and whey more readily instead of being a thick, smooth texture. I don't have a new filmjolk culture yet, I stopped trying to use the old one because I didn't like it that way. My friend who gave me the culture originally said she's had to order a new culture several times, that the filmjolk culture is more like yogurt in that you need to periodically get a "clean" starter to keep the characteristics the same. Kefir is more durable and consistent, but I just don't like it as well as filmjolk.
This sounds like my experience. I think my fil mjolk is dead - it was horrible today & wouldn't thicken at all. I also use, full fat, raw milk straight from teh fridge & my temps are in the same range.

When I return from the beach, I'm going to order fresh fil mjolk from here.
post #5 of 7
I know this is an old post, and maybe you have it figured out already, but I have been culturing viili for a while and just started on fil mjolk. You need to have a mother culture that is cultured using boiled raw milk. You can't keep reculturing with raw milk indefinitely like you can with kefir. I just keep a pint jar of boiled milk mother culture and add some of that to each jar of raw milk I wish to culture. Then, I save some of the boiled milk starter to start a new pint jar of the boiled milk mother culture. You will be able to keep your cultures forever using this method, as long as you reculture the mother culture once a week. The instructions I received with my cultures explained this process very thoroughly. I received them through GEM cultures and a shop on etsy. Anyway, hopefully this will help someone.
post #6 of 7
Let me know if you need help with your culture...I've been working with Fil Mjolk for awhile now.
post #7 of 7
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I know this is an old post, and maybe you have it figured out already, but I have been culturing viili for a while and just started on fil mjolk. You need to have a mother culture that is cultured using boiled raw milk. You can't keep reculturing with raw milk indefinitely like you can with kefir. I just keep a pint jar of boiled milk mother culture and add some of that to each jar of raw milk I wish to culture. Then, I save some of the boiled milk starter to start a new pint jar of the boiled milk mother culture. You will be able to keep your cultures forever using this method, as long as you reculture the mother culture once a week. The instructions I received with my cultures explained this process very thoroughly. I received them through GEM cultures and a shop on etsy. Anyway, hopefully this will help someone.
This is awesome & makes total sense - thanks mama!
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