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post #21 of 112
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Originally Posted by primjillie View Post
I know a lot of moms here think it is fine to smoke dope, pregant or parenting. No matter what, it is illegal and you are taking a risk whether you think it is your right or not.
Just wondering where you're getting your information, because it's wrong. In New York, it's NOT illegal to smoke marijuana.


..but I don't think dope has to mean heroine. In fact, I've never heard it mean heroine, though I suppose it could. According to discionary.com it's any illegal drug. That's what they taught us in DARE. :

To the OP...what do you mean how do you react? I'm not being snarky, just truly wondering what kind of advice you're looking for?
post #22 of 112
I have friends that do things that I don't agree with as far as parenting goes but they are still my friends.

I'm sure your friend has weighed the pros/cons and has made her decision. Now you need to weight the pros/cons of your friendship and decide if you can keep her as a friend.

Just b/c she is your friend doesn't mean you have to leave your child with her if her being high bothers you...that would be where you do have control over what she does.
post #23 of 112
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Originally Posted by Ziggysmama View Post
I am always surprised about people who post about not wanting to risk "IT" by smoking pot during pregnancy.
Yet no one can tell me what "IT" is and I have never seen nor read about any baby being messed up from the mom smoking weed during pregnancy.
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post #24 of 112
I live in California, where it is illegal. I don't know anyone who has had their children taken away for it, but I know a few that have been arrested and lost their jobs from it. Just a risk I'm not comfortable taking, especially for something I don't need or want.
post #25 of 112
actually medical MJ in Ca. is legal and there are bars set up for those who have a rx to go to for safe MJ. there was an excellent pbs documentary about MJ about a year ago. It was very enlightening.

I think there are a lot of misconceptions of parents smoking MJ and being "stoned" and those who smoke for medical reasons (whether its morning sickness, headaches, etc. etc.). MJ has fewer side effects than some of the harsher drugs rx'd by dr's that are "legal".

i think there is a forum here for mamas who use MJ, just in case anyone wanted to get some insight into the issues.

I do not think its appropriate to refer to a mom who smokes MJ as a druggie.
post #26 of 112
Smoking period is not healthy for an unborn child.

I don't buy it one little bit. NO drugs are 100% safe during pregnancy.

As for how to react, if you morally object then you can keep it to yourself or not be friends with her anymore.

And regardless for health reasons, or for legal reasons (where applicable) MJ use does impair judgment and I do not want to be impaired while taking care of my children.
post #27 of 112
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Originally Posted by Mom2Joseph View Post
And regardless for health reasons, or for legal reasons (where applicable) MJ use does impair judgment and I do not want to be impaired while taking care of my children.
Here's the thing. I don't smoke anything, let alone mj, but I do take a narcotic prescription for severe migraine headaches which causes me to be impaired. But it isn't like not taking the medicine is going to keep me from being impaired - having a severe migraine headache causes me to be more impaired than the medicine. And we don't know the specific situation with this mom. If she's taking it for a medical reason, the level of impairment WITH the mj could be less than the level of impairment without it.
post #28 of 112
I know several people who smoked a bit of pot (not a lot, a handful of times) during their pregnancy. Their reasons:

-helped with nausea and sickness
-helped prevent them from wanting to kill themself. This sounds dramatic, but it's true that pot is good for helping some people with this.
-helped with severe anxiety

Marijuana is a PLANT. It's crazy that it's illegal, and most people have no idea WHY it's illegal.

Ideally, it's better not to SMOKE something (b/c of the lung issue) but that's why there are vaporizers and it can be put into food and have the same benefits.

The folks that I know that smoked it have brilliant, well-adjusted children. I see no difference b/w someone using a bit of pot vs. taking an anti-depressant.

However, I do not think heavy use of pot during pregnancy is good; I am talking about moderate amounts (once a week or so, and just a little bit at a time).
post #29 of 112
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Originally Posted by mamazee View Post
Here's the thing. I don't smoke anything, let alone mj, but I do take a narcotic prescription for severe migraine headaches which causes me to be impaired. But it isn't like not taking the medicine is going to keep me from being impaired - having a severe migraine headache causes me to be more impaired than the medicine. And we don't know the specific situation with this mom. If she's taking it for a medical reason, the level of impairment WITH the mj could be less than the level of impairment without it.



I agree. I function HORRIBLY when I have a migraine, and am definitely impaired. I can't function, really. But I am not impaired and function just fine when slightly high on pot.
post #30 of 112
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Originally Posted by Popeye7608 View Post


What do you guys think?

How should I react to my friend who smokes dope?

What it comes down to is that how anyone on this website feels about this issue is really irrelevant to this situation. You should react however you want to react. If it's a deal breaker in a friendship for you, than that's what it is. If it's not a deal breaker, than move past it.
post #31 of 112
I know some moms that did this and it kinda bothered me too but I'm not a pot smoker so I don't relate to the desire. I try to just see it as something I don't understand so I can't judge. However, I have noticed...in my passive observation that the pot smoking moms I know seem to have kids that seem to have issues such as learning disabilities, severe behavioral issues etc. It could just be a coincidence.
post #32 of 112
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Originally Posted by Ziggysmama View Post
I am always surprised about people who post about not wanting to risk "IT" by smoking pot during pregnancy.
Yet no one can tell me what "IT" is and I have never seen nor read about any baby being messed up from the mom smoking weed during pregnancy.

Does anyone know what "it" is?
okay, this made me ::laughuplaughup

call me a grammar dork, but an ambiguous "it" gets me every time.

i think the IT in this saying is kind of like the it in "cry-it-out," no one knows what "it" is, but "it" is very important and self-evident to any good mother
post #33 of 112
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Originally Posted by appalachia View Post
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Wow, thats the first round of applause I ever got on MDC.

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Originally Posted by readytobedone View Post
okay, this made me ::laughuplaughup

call me a grammar dork, but an ambiguous "it" gets me every time.

i think the IT in this saying is kind of like the it in "cry-it-out," no one knows what "it" is, but "it" is very important and self-evident to any good mother

You are preaching to the choir sister!!!
No one has said what it is yet either. If 'it' is the dangers of the 'smoke' that is easily remedied as PP have mentioned. Also I am a believer that a couple of tokes or puffs of anything ever once in a while can't be anymore harmful than walking down a city block and breathing the air.

As for the people that state their is some kind of learning disabilities and behavioural problem with children of pot smokers. Well if you are going to use anecdotal evidence so will I.
My mother smoked pot while I was inutero for therapeutic reasons, she even smoked while in labour with me for pain and nausea relief and guess what?
I have NO behavioral problems or learning disabilities. In fact, I have quite a high IQ and did really well at school.
post #34 of 112
I think you should react the same way I react when a pregnant friend is eating ground beef cooked rare, getting excessive ultrasounds because her husband's a doctor and she just loves seeing the baby, cleaning her cat's litter box, riding in a car without a seatbelt, or anything else I know to be possibly hazardous to the baby: Try to think of a gentle, informative way to bring up the information. If she isn't receptive, drop it. Wait and see how the baby turns out; you may be pleasantly surprised.

There are risks you wouldn't take with your child, and then there are risks that you do take that you've probably never questioned. Other moms make different choices.

I know many people who were prenatally exposed to marijuana and are completely normal or better--intelligent, healthy, loving people whose parents did a great job. The biggest risk of using marijuana is getting arrested.
post #35 of 112
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Originally Posted by karina5 View Post

Marijuana is a PLANT. It's crazy that it's illegal, and most people have no idea WHY it's illegal.
I think MJ should be legal too but I'm always surpised when people act like nothing could be wrong with MJ use because its a plant. Lots of drugs come from plants and are dangerous - tobacco, opium, cocaine, etc. I think its just a faulty to argue that its natural so can't be harmful.
post #36 of 112
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Originally Posted by TranscendentalMom View Post
I think MJ should be legal too but I'm always surpised when people act like nothing could be wrong with MJ use because its a plant. Lots of drugs come from plants and are dangerous - tobacco, opium, cocaine, etc. I think its just a faulty to argue that its natural so can't be harmful.



Of course many natural things can be harmful. My point about it being just a plant is more towards why such a useful plant is criminalized.

It's criminalized because the plant itself is a very efficient crop which would knock other industries out of business (ie cotton, tree farms for paper), so as a result they all banded together to spread false info about how the plant was really toxic and dangerous and a "gateway drug" etc etc etc, and ever since then it's been mostly illegal to cultivate hemp.

The one major mistake the people who banned it made was the extremely low toxicity of the plant (ie. no matter how much THC you consume you don't die). As a result, relative to the things which are allowed on the shelves (and often toxic), it's about as harmless as you can get.

Also, the seeds contain high levels of proteins and essential amino acids, meaning you could sustain yourself pretty well on the seeds. The oil contains the highest amount of hdl cholesterol and omega 3 fatty acids of ANY oil. This is a plant that is so versatile that we have yet to fathom its complete usefulness. BUt oh wait, we can't!!! CUz it's illegal.

Such a shame that such a useful plant is illegal due to sad propaganda.
post #37 of 112
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Originally Posted by karina5 View Post

Such a shame that such a useful plant is illegal due to sad propaganda.
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post #38 of 112
I would sooner smoke pot than take a Tylenol while breastfeeding.

But no way would I smoke it for fear of having my baby taken away.
post #39 of 112
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Originally Posted by lizzylou View Post
First - dope is heroin, not marijuana.

Second - marijuana is not a narcotic.

Third - how to respond? Well it's not really any of your business. As you yourself pointed out, the research shows that weed does not have adverse affects on a baby.
Well, that's enlightening. Back in the 70s, when I was in high school, dope was maryjane. I guess times have changed.


To respond to the OP, I don't think I would want to associate with anyone who does not put their child's health above their own personal past times.
Not only that, but considering that she in engaging in something illegal, I would assume that she could lose her child if she were caught. After reading some of the posts here on MDC regarding CPS, that would scare me enough to end the friendship.
post #40 of 112
[QUOTE=karina5;11982781]

Marijuana is a PLANT. It's crazy that it's illegal, and most people have no idea WHY it's illegal.

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Well that's all well and fine--but by the time a person buys it off the street (because let's face it, the OP's friend is not buying it for medical purposes where it would be regulated) who knows what's been done to it. I've seen folks drop dead from pot that was chemically altered. It's not safe to buy it from a stranger. They are always in it for the profit.
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