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post #1 of 54
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The boys and I stopped at a McDonalds at the half way mark of an 8 hour drive to see Grandma so they could play at the play place for a while. They were both having a lot of fun, the play place was really busy with kids everywhere. I snatched Connor up about 10 minutes before I wanted to leave to nurse him before putting him in his carseat. I thought nothing of it, as usual. He was done, I put him down for one last run as I cleaned up the table.

Suddenly a woman appears and says "ma'am?" I turned to her and smiled because I had seen her looking at me from time to time, I assumed it was because she had noticed that Connor is special needs (saw me using sign language maybe) but instead she says "I support your right to breastfeed your son, but I have two teenage sons here, and I would appreciate it if you would have the decency to go somewhere more private or at least cover up."

I have to admit that I was a bit shocked because I was expecting a conversation about special needs, not breastfeeding! I recovered quickly and said "Actually, the LAW supports my right to breastfeed my baby in public, and I did not bare my entire breast for all to see, I'm sure your sons have seen more exposure in JC Penny catalogs, furthermore, my son is special needs with a malformed palate and airway that makes breathing and swallowing difficult for him, so covering him up is not an option."

She at least had the decency to look slightly sorry about getting on to me when I mentioned the special needs part, but she went on to say "everyone around you would appreciate it if you would go somewhere more private to do what is considered a very private thing." To which I said "again, the law supports my right to do this wherever I am with my baby, perhaps if you taught your sons that this was a normal natural bodily function that they shouldn't be ashamed to see, there wouldn't be a problem here."

She got angry then and said "obviously you and I were raised differently, I was taught that exposing myself in public is not acceptable and I would appreciate it if you'd not expose yourself to my sons." To which I said "yes, apparently we were raised differently, because I was taught that my child's needs come before your discomfort, particularly when the law is very clear in this respect. I feel bad for your future grandchildren who will no doubt be formula babies because of your ignorance."

That pretty much ended the conversation, it was short, lasted only 2-3 minutes probably, and I obviously flustered her with my quick comebacks. While I was proud that I stood my ground, I was a little embarassed that after she left, I found myself to be shakey like I had just had a big fight!! I guess it's because I didn't see this one coming. I've fought with many a dr about my son's medical care related to his special needs, but this lactivism on the fly was a first for me!!! Unfortunately it most certainly fell on deaf ears.
post #2 of 54
She said this to you after you were already done? Why not just let it go? People amaze me sometimes.

Angela <><
post #3 of 54
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She said this to you after you were already done? Why not just let it go? People amaze me sometimes.

Angela <><
Yeah, that. You were packing up to go, so why would she THEN come tell you to cover up? :



Anyway, your responses were freaking SWEET! Your comments make me WISH that someone would have tried that BS with me!
post #4 of 54
Way to go!!!!
post #5 of 54
I'd be shaken up too. As much thought as I have put into NIP over the years, a confrontation would still get my adrenaline going. You were amazingly composed!
post #6 of 54
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Originally Posted by white_queen_22 View Post
She said this to you after you were already done? Why not just let it go? People amaze me sometimes.

Angela <><
You know, the argumentative side of me did consider briefly scooping Connor up to nurse him more just BECAUSE she said something to me, you know?
post #7 of 54
You did GREAT!!! It sounds like you were so together and said all the right things. Bravo!! I hope her sons overheard what you said and will go home with new ideas to ponder.
post #8 of 54
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I'd be shaken up too. As much thought as I have put into NIP over the years, a confrontation would still get my adrenaline going. You were amazingly composed!
Hey I like your webpage!
post #9 of 54
wtg with the snappy comebacks! she had a nerve!
post #10 of 54
WOW what awesome comebacks!!!!!
I completely understand what you were feeling afterward.. where you said that you felt shaky like you'd just been in a fight. I get the exact same way when I have to stand my ground about something (ugh, I hate that feeling!).. which is why I'm not good at confrontation at all. I would have been a stammering mess. But you? I honestly don't think you could have possibly handled that any better than you did.


I truly hope that this *encounter* (as crappy as it may have been for you) made an impression in her sons lives. Who knows, maybe it just will!
post #11 of 54
"I support your right to breastfeed you son, but..."


No, she doesn't. If she did, then she would have left you alone! And shame on her for trying to shame you for doing what is best for your child! I hope this has also been a lesson learned for her that she can't control total strangers while out in public.

I have to say that I am impressed with how well you maintained your composure! I love your comebacks.
post #12 of 54
girl, you rocked it.

flawless responses. Thank you for providing us with such inspiration for any future such encounters we might have.
post #13 of 54
Well done

(I'm sorry you had to experience that.)
post #14 of 54
w00t! Take that, lady!
post #15 of 54
LOVE your responses!
And I know what you mean about feeling shaky. Some chick tried to make me go to a private room at The Painted Penguin to nurse when Hypatia was 7 weeks old! "There are children here." Yeah, you don't say? I told her it wouldn't hurt the kids to see a baby eat. Sure I was flashing some boobage, but you know what? Tough! She was 7 weeks old, she was hungry, and that project we were working on (her first Menorah!) was NOT going to make itself. Plus we only had a limited amount of time before Brendon started fussing (he was 15 months old at the time).
It's too bad he didn't take to tandem nursing - THAT would have been fun!
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LOVE your responses!
And I know what you mean about feeling shaky. Some chick tried to make me go to a private room at The Painted Penguin to nurse when Hypatia was 7 weeks old! "There are children here." Yeah, you don't say? I told her it wouldn't hurt the kids to see a baby eat. Sure I was flashing some boobage, but you know what? Tough! She was 7 weeks old, she was hungry, and that project we were working on (her first Menorah!) was NOT going to make itself. Plus we only had a limited amount of time before Brendon started fussing (he was 15 months old at the time).
It's too bad he didn't take to tandem nursing - THAT would have been fun!
YEah, that thought ocurred to me afterwards, too...I think Ian is weaned now, but what I should have done was grab Ian and tandem nursed BOTH of them right there in front of her Ian would probably have been thrilled, he's asked a few times recently (usually when trying to put off bedtime or to distract me when he's gotten in trouble ) and I've just tried to smoothly change the subject without outright refusing to nurse him. He quickly moves on to something else, so I think he's actually DONE done now. But if I had thought of it, I would have gladly tandem nursed in front of her just to prove a point What would she have thought of me nursing a (rather large) 3 year old in front of her precious teenage sons?????!
post #17 of 54
hindsight is 20/20, but boys seeing bfing is really great. You could have said that I hope that your sons's wives will bf your grandchildren. My 8 year old son watches me all the time.

that would have shut her up.

you were in the children's area anyway? what are teenagers doing in the children's area.
post #18 of 54
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hindsight is 20/20, but boys seeing bfing is really great. You could have said that I hope that your sons's wives will bf your grandchildren. My 8 year old son watches me all the time.

that would have shut her up.

you were in the children's area anyway? what are teenagers doing in the children's area.
I don't know what they were doing in there, that ocurred to me afterwards, too. I didn't see a younger child with them, I think it was just her and two teenagers. The place was really busy, it's possible that the seats in the main dining area were full, it was a pretty small McDs (but had a great indoor play place!)

I stopped at the same McDs on the way back home a week later and had absolutely no problems at all. In my 3.5 years of NIP, this is the first direct comment I've had that was negative. I've had issues with pumping at a previous workplace (which I eventually filed an equal opportunity complaint about and then requested a transfer and the move turned out to be a very good thing) and the ocassional glance or stare,but this is the first confrontation.
post #19 of 54
oh geez
I hope if anyone ever confronts me that I've got comebacks!!Congrats mama for standing your ground
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