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post #2141 of 2423
I pooped yesterday!


Sorry to share, it's sort of big news for me. Er.....um

post #2142 of 2423
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Originally Posted by ~Shanna~ View Post
I pooped yesterday!


Sorry to share, it's sort of big news for me. Er.....um

yay!!! Seriously, this is big news for me these days too.

Shanna, I loved your pictures on FB. Absolutely beautiful. I'm amazed at how much vernix Reece had!
post #2143 of 2423
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Originally Posted by ~Shanna~ View Post
I pooped yesterday!


Sorry to share, it's sort of big news for me. Er.....um

Yay! I'm assuming it went well!!
post #2144 of 2423
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Originally Posted by ~Shanna~ View Post
I pooped yesterday!


Sorry to share, it's sort of big news for me. Er.....um

Well, it is important!

He's so adorable. And chubby!
post #2145 of 2423
Birth story

Milk came in yesterday am, feeling engorged but staying vigilant. Reece is a great nurser while nursing, but he's a better sleeper. I feel as though he's sleeping 23 hours/day. Pumping often, and I'm not sure my pump is working right. I remember it as being more efficient.

Pooping went great! But I've been taking stool softeners - I wish I had done that last time. But have I mentioned the afterpains? Oh. My. God. I hate to take ibuprofen for them, but I'm tempted, having midwives bring over an afterpain remedy this afternoon (will share name when they remind me - worked great for right after birth). But I can see the wisdom of the greater pain - bleeding is tapering off much faster, per Maela's experience. They're so bad that I feel like I want to throw up for a brief second each time. And then, magically, they're gone.

Having a little tough time with an issue with Fenton. For a long time he's been getting worse and worse about diaper changes, running from me giggling, thrashing, making it literally impossible to get a diaper on the kid. This started....well, a year ago and has gotten worse (but not worse since Reece). In the past couple of months I've literally had to sit on him to get a dipe on him, and even then I'm getting a terrible fit and thus, leaks several times a day. It's such a violent wrestling match, so ineffective and so...frustrating doesn't begin to describe. I get so angry that I want to hurt him, especially when he thinks its devilishly funny. I'm down to my last two ideas: Going to try pullups that a friend lent me, and if they are absorbant enough, it could be enough to have a dipe that goes on like undies. But after a long talk with DH last night (because now he's feeling violent towards him, having dealt with it alone the past couple of days) and we're at a loss as to what a logical consequence for Fenton is in this situation. I feel like I've tried everything, and frankly this is a somewhat unique discipline issue because he must wear a diaper. He's still too unreliable to go naked.....So today we started a sticker chart. Theres no reward for the stickers, just the ritual of putting a sticker on a piece of paper if he's cooperative during a dipe change. But can anyone think of another good idea if this and the pull ups fail? I'm at a loss, and loathe to come to an action that is so damn contrived. But something has to give, I'm afraid I'm going to hit him.
post #2146 of 2423
PS Reece is so. damn. cute.

And Christina is right, the amount of vernix was astonishing. Worthy of it's own picture.
post #2147 of 2423
Shanna, for pooping and your milk coming in for the issue with Fenton.

I can only tell you what I've been doing with Calvin. He comes to me to let me know he needs his diaper changed. I say "I will change your diaper when you lay down" ad nauseum until he lays down calmly. If he doesn't lay down, he is choosing to stay in a wet/poopy diaper. When he lays down, I change his diaper as quickly as humanly possible. This has reduced the power struggles from every single diaper change to 1-2/day and some days none at all. We do deal with more diaper rash, but not enough to concern me and it's a tradeoff I am willing to make if it means I'm not screaming or being tempted to get physical.
post #2148 of 2423
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He comes to me to let me know he needs his diaper changed.
Wait....WHAT??!

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Originally Posted by Sihaya View Post
I say "I will change your diaper when you lay down" ad nauseum until he lays down calmly. If he doesn't lay down, he is choosing to stay in a wet/poopy diaper. When he lays down, I change his diaper as quickly as humanly possible. This has reduced the power struggles from every single diaper change to 1-2/day and some days none at all. We do deal with more diaper rash, but not enough to concern me and it's a tradeoff I am willing to make if it means I'm not screaming or being tempted to get physical.
Good advice, I'm going to have to think about this. I think for us it would mean going to disposies if we did this because his bladder is holding so much these days that the dipe won't hold if I have to wait for him. But this is interesting......and vastly superior to what we are doing.
post #2149 of 2423
Shanna,

Q's last 6 months or so in a diaper would have been the same, but here's what I did:

I got really good at doing "stand-up diapers". I brought the diaper to where he was and all he had to do was stand still. He was generally fine with it. Asking a toddler to lie down is about like asking him to go to sleep.

If you need notes on going a stand up diaper (with seventh generation disposables or anything with that kind of shape/closure), happy to oblige. I could have done it with cloth, too, if the cloth was already in the cover.
post #2150 of 2423
Congrats Shanna!
I just had to say that I think the sticker chart is a great idea. It's hard to go to a reward system sometimes from an AP mindset, but some kids really need that validation to know that what they did was worth while. If he really hates it then it makes sense that he will need a little more to do it, and maybe even learn to enjoy it. I'm also really impressed that your sticker chart doesn't get any other reward. We do something similar in the 1st grade class I'm in now and the kids love it, and don't need anything more then the tangible acknowledgment that they did what was expected.
post #2151 of 2423
wait, quinn is out of diapers?! we are nowhere near that. am confident it will be before 3 though.

like liz, i have been doing exclusively standing up diaper changes for what feels like forever, probably for 14 mos. or so. dh still does lying down for poop and standing up for pee. She poops only once a day so it isn't such an issue. as a point of reference, her classroom last year did lying down diaper changes (and she always would lie down for them!) but this year all of the children (who are all younger 2s) do it standing up. Unlike Liz, I often do bring her near the diapers, wipes, cream rather than bringing them to her. She fought it for a while and then it was over. It's a mystery.
post #2152 of 2423
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I got really good at doing "stand-up diapers".
Ah, you validate my frustration. These issues are with me doing stand-up dipe changes. For over a year now .

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I'm also really impressed that your sticker chart doesn't get any other reward..
We'll see where it gets me. My sister does rewards, but right now I feel like that's not a sustainable option. I considered giving him pennies for his piggy bank, until I realized, um, that's paying him for diaper changes

I'm hopeful for the pull-up option, I'll have to see how well that holds for him. But I'm definately intrigued with Sihayas suggestion. We have the best luck with Fenton when we are divorced from outcome, which I can't be with our current dipe setup. Thanks for the advice, and keep any new ideas coming.
post #2153 of 2423
Popping in to add that we use prefolds and covers at home and I just can't get them to work if he's standing. When we're out & about we use the one-size Bum Genius's and do stand-up changes exclusively unless he's poopy. We simply can't afford the number of diapers we would have to buy to switch from prefolds to exclusively BG's, especially if he's still in dipes in June.
post #2154 of 2423
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wait, quinn is out of diapers?! we are nowhere near that. am confident it will be before 3 though.
Well, Q was first out of diapers at 18 months. One morning I took of his night dipe and just decided to put sweat pants on (it was Nov). I said "If you need to go pee pee, take me to the bathroom and you can pee pee in the toilet like Mommy and Daddy" I then put him on the toilet (first time ever) and asked if he had any pee pee. He let a drop go. Throughout the next half hour I reminded him of what we were doing, but gently without pressure.

Then he soaked his sweat pants. Of course, I expected this. So I took him to the toilet and gently reminded him where his pee pee could go, I put him on, nothing came--it was all on his pants! So we put on new pants. Since I did this on the spur of the moment, I didn't have any underwear! The next one was a half hour later and all over his pants. No biggie, did the same thing. By the third, he let a little go (ounce or so) and then took me to the toilet and let the rest go in the toilet. Fast forward like this a day (dipe overnight of course, and stayed home all day) and he was getting about 80% in the toilet, the 20% not, but the 20% wasn't whole pees, just the little start of them---he was stopping himself and finishing in the toilet. Poop was never a problem, from the very first one, they all went in the toilet/potty with one or two exceptions when I didn't hear him calling for me.

By the one week mark he was totally potty trained, in underwear, and even dry at night. It was amazing. I was so not expecting it to be that easy. I guess he was just really ready.

Then he got a yeasty infection under his foreskin that made peeing hurt really badly. Only 1.5 weeks into using the toilet was just bad timing and he associated the pain with the toilet, so he went back in diapers full time for about 6 more months.

Then around his second b-day we got a couple "froggy" potties and started over, but much slower as he was showing some mild resistance. We stayed home for a week, went bottomless (okay, not "we" ) He already had the seeds planted, so he didn't have many accidents. Then we put underwear on (at home) diapers when we went out. Week by week we added something new. The third week I bought a travel potty for the van and started venturing out in underwear. I had him use the van potty every time we got out of the van (unless it had only been 10 minutes or so).

At first he was peeing little bits every 20 minutes or so. He also felt the poop coming but wasn't great about knowing it was ready. He wasn't too late, but always too early, so we'd make 3-5 trips to "Froggy" before the poop came. For a while I thought I was living in the bathroom!

But here we are at 30 months and he's just wearing a diaper at night, sometimes dry in the morning and sometimes not. He wears training undies from Hanna Andersson (just an extra layer of cotton in the pee zone) during the day and occasionally he lets a little (dime sized) bit go while procrastinating, but then he says "uh oh, I peed in my underwear" and he runs to Froggy.

I don't know why its been so easy for us. I have wild theories, but ultimately I think all kids are just different.
post #2155 of 2423
Shanna, I really enjoyed your birth story. Thanks for sharing!

lurking on this potty discussion. Elizabeth, thanks for sharing your experience. I was hoping that's how it would go for us (like last fall for you). She has every sign of readiness, except for willingness to use the potty. Our diaper changes probably aren't as bad as Fenton's, but there is usually at least one diaper-change-induced tantrum per day. I like the idea of the froggy potty...I've been thinking we should try a more substantial potty (than our BBLP). I wish they sold these in the US.
post #2156 of 2423
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Birth story

Milk came in yesterday am, feeling engorged but staying vigilant. Reece is a great nurser while nursing, but he's a better sleeper. I feel as though he's sleeping 23 hours/day. Pumping often, and I'm not sure my pump is working right. I remember it as being more efficient.

Pooping went great! But I've been taking stool softeners - I wish I had done that last time. But have I mentioned the afterpains? Oh. My. God. I hate to take ibuprofen for them, but I'm tempted, having midwives bring over an afterpain remedy this afternoon (will share name when they remind me - worked great for right after birth). But I can see the wisdom of the greater pain - bleeding is tapering off much faster, per Maela's experience. They're so bad that I feel like I want to throw up for a brief second each time. And then, magically, they're gone.
The first few days when my milk came in (when I was pretty engorged), it was really hard for me to pump anything. I don't know why, there was obviously so much in there. But then the pump worked better for me the next week.

Shanna, I am so glad pooping is going well for you.
I was having a perfectly normal time pooping for the first two weeks, and for some reason now it's hurting! Can you get hemorrhoids days after the birth?? Yesterday and today it really hurt to go. I'm not understanding. I haven't been eating very well lately, so that could be part of it. How do I know if I have hemorrhoids; do I have to look or feel around down there? It makes me queasy just to think about it.

ETA: And I started bleeding again the next day after I thought I was finished. Since then, I've been having a day every so often where there is absolutely no bleeding and then it starts up again (lightly). It's such a disappointment. This happened last time too.
post #2157 of 2423
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I was having a perfectly normal time pooping for the first two weeks, and for some reason now it's hurting! Can you get hemorrhoids days after the birth?? Yesterday and today it really hurt to go. I'm not understanding. I haven't been eating very well lately, so that could be part of it. How do I know if I have hemorrhoids; do I have to look or feel around down there? It makes me queasy just to think about it.
These are a major problem for me right now. I was hoping I would avoid them before the birth this time, but no go. I think food is a major part of it; i need and crave protein, but i know i need more fresh veggies and such. I totally understand not wanting to feel around down there. you might be able to just tell by the way you feel - itching? pain in sitting, etc? My mw gave me medication for them after J's birth...i needed help in applying it. Anyway, it's totally possible to get them after the birth, mine certainly stayed around, and I believe that weak pc muscles help to prolong them. Sorry you're dealing with this too.
post #2158 of 2423
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The first few days when my milk came in (when I was pretty engorged), it was really hard for me to pump anything. I don't know why, there was obviously so much in there. But then the pump worked better for me the next week.

Shanna, I am so glad pooping is going well for you.
I was having a perfectly normal time pooping for the first two weeks, and for some reason now it's hurting! Can you get hemorrhoids days after the birth?? Yesterday and today it really hurt to go. I'm not understanding. I haven't been eating very well lately, so that could be part of it. How do I know if I have hemorrhoids; do I have to look or feel around down there? It makes me queasy just to think about it.

ETA: And I started bleeding again the next day after I thought I was finished. Since then, I've been having a day every so often where there is absolutely no bleeding and then it starts up again (lightly). It's such a disappointment. This happened last time too.
My pump is "working" now, interesting that you had same issue. I'm so sorry about thw bleeding - I've always heard this is a sign that you're doing too much, does that seem possible?

I struggled so much with getting enough fiber while pg (didn't taste good) and now (veggies not my caretakers forte, kind of putzy when he's taking care of 2 of us). I need to stop the stool softeners soon . i'll miss them.

Highly recommend having this product around following birth.

Horrible sleep night with F last night. He finally went to bed at 4 He's acting like he's eaten something that triggers him, but damn if i can figure it out, especially with confounding factors. DH pretty frustrated.
post #2159 of 2423
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/bu...ef=todayspaper

I didn't know the new toy safety law affected thrift stores, anyone know any more?
post #2160 of 2423
Can anyone offer nursing bra shopping help here? Those bastards at Victorias Secret got me hooked and then yanked my fix....

Good sleep last night for Fenton! Afterpains getting.....well, better at least.
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