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| I just think all of this would be a little easier if we all lived in teepees, on the plains, while the men hunt for buffalo and we pray that no one gets hit with an arrow...the women shuck corn (the non-GMO kind) and the kids play in the dirt...diaperless...so I don't have to worry about potty training. But that's another story. |
You speak from my head! This sounds like heaven to me. Where in Oz are you? I'm an Aussie, married to a 'merican, living in Oz.
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this thread has been so educational!! i have a question though...when eating probiotic foods, do you transfer the beneficial bacteria and yeast through your breastmilk? i always thought you did so it would be good for the baby suffering from yeast issues if the mother was eating probiotic foods but then someone told me you don't transfer beneficial bacteria through your breastmilk...so i don't know what to think, but then how do you treat a yeastie baby w/o giving them something else directly, or can you?
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I agree with Faery that giving them to babe is best if you aren't sure how your breast milk is for probiotics. We colonise the baby's gut with our breast milk but this is subject to us being in balance and symbiosis. A yeast heavy mama will usually just give baby oral thrush
. Not funny really. The strains you give will depend on the age. Babies have different gut flora that slowly matures into different strains. I have a probiotic, dairy free, for newborns to three months.
However, to be a broken record, I believe what helped my DS was yeast killing first. You see, I knew probiotics helped eczema so I was giving them to him for weeks and weeks with absolutely NO benefit. Then I realised that even in a little tot I'd first have to wipe the bowel wall clean of the clinging yeast BEFORE those probiotics could stick! They were just in one end and out the other, having no where to stick in my poor over colonised little guy. After a few little tricks to kill them off, the probiotics could stick and he was healed.
Yeast and bacteria "hook" onto the lining of the bowel wall. They line up as a defense, so bad bacteria have nowhere to hook into. When bacteria are killed off, there are all these spaces left on that lining and yeast go nuts taking over, hooking in and pretending to be immune cells! They have so many tricks, including changing their receptors and outer shell. They are really hard to remove. Putting probiotics into your system, even that small number that survive the journey through the acid and alkaline conditions of digestion, is all but pointless. There's no room. And candida has changed the gut pH in their favour so they don't survive the gut anymore anyway.
Acidify acidify acidify. Kill kill kill.
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| So what gets transferred? I had a breast infection last week, and am wondering what about the whole thing I passed on to ds. Was I passing part of the infection through the milk? Forgive how ignorant this sounds. After this thread I am a bit confused. I am assuming you can pass on whatever you are cultured with? |
WHat did you pass on, a bacterial infection? That's rare if not impossible through breast milk. You would have given it to him another way, the general way we pass things to each other. But breast milk is designed to be free of pathogens (except good ol' yeast, which gets into EVERYTHING, and literally claws its way into the milk ducts!). You can't pass on your gut flora. But you do pass on prebiotics (elements to help good bacteria grow) and apparently probiotics, but of the appropriate strain for baby. You also pass on stem cells and all kindsa miraculous stuff to help with infection and colonisation.
I have also heard of cultures that feed babies kefir and other fermented drinks, full of microorganisms. They live to like 140 years old so even though it's alcoholic it's not doing a bad job on these kids.
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